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Post by longhopmerchant Sat 23 Jul 2011, 11:13 pm

Dave Warner is currently enjoying a very fruitful tour of Zimbabwe. He has scored 132 in the A team final vs South Africa A. He then scored a brilliant 164 vs a Zim XI in a 2 day game, which was unfortunately not a 1st class game. He then scored a brilliant 48 and 82 in the 1st A team 'Test'. Then today he scored a brilliant 211 vs a Zim side whom will be playing Bangladesh and New Zealand in Tests soon.

With the Australian middle order pretty weak at present, Watson could slip in at 3/4 and Warner could open up with his buddy Hughes, Warner could give Australia those lighting starts, which have been missing since Hayden retired.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 2:21 am

Sounds good to me... even if he opened with Watson (I don't think our selectors will change that soon) it would seem a pretty solid combination.

Shades of David Boon in Dave Warner... I can see many fans getting behind him if he were selected for Tests and we need stability and a level headed player rather than a flashy batsman like Hughes to help us get back on track.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 10:11 am

i think for the series against sri lanka, austrailia will open with watson, and hughes.

katich was harshly treated

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 10:42 am

Katich is gone...forget him, not even part of the equation.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:19 am

i no he's out of the equation, but from an english point of view, i would rather see hughes in the team, because you have more chance of getting him out then you do katich

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:24 am

? The thread is about David Warner.

What chance do you have of getting him out? That is the question. Smile

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:25 am

well in a test match a huge chance......

surely gotta be better options than him, for a test place..

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:27 am

Huge chance? I see you know a lot about cricket...

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:37 am

Linebreaker wrote:Huge chance? I see you know a lot about cricket...

thats not a particuarly fair comment is it relle....

i no a lot about cricket, and am passionate about the game.... its my opinon, and on what i have seen, i dont warner has the temperament to play test cricket, i might be wrong, but i can only say on what i have seen :/

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:46 am

sorry cricketfan, I still can't see any sense in what you're saying? You haven't seen much yet you 'could be wrong' about Warner?

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:47 am

i heard that warner hasnt played many odi's and only plays t20 for australia, because he cant control himself that much....

i think he is very talented, and may test cricket one day, but i dont think he has the temperant at the moment.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:48 am

he may well prove me wrong Smile

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 11:58 am

I hope so mate. I must admit I was surprised to hear he's knocked up a few big scores in Zimbabwe... but as we all know - they are no England! Very Happy

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:24 pm

yup lol.....

i dont think he will get the call up anytime soon, i think he needs a few more seasons in state cricket, or maybe come over to england, and play some county cricket

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:38 pm

You're probably right there, unless there is some drama again later this year but there are guys like Marsh who would be preferred. (just that the NSW players seem to get selected for the national side)

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:39 pm

i no they do, get seletced, but i doubt he is ready to play test cricket..

marsh is a better batsman at this stage

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:42 pm

i think a stint i england, in county cricket will do him good...

i personally think domestic cricket in england is stronger than domestic cricket in austrialia, also he will get a chance to perform in different conditions

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:44 pm

You're probably right there, unless there is some drama again later this year with Hughes for example - but there are guys like Marsh who would be preferred. (just that the NSW players seem to get selected for the national side) I could see Warner in the side by next year or two though... if he has a good SS this summer and has a stint in CC say in 2012. All depends how we go against India later on this year and whether more changes are required at the top of the order.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:46 pm

i think he would do well at somerset, playing at taunton, flat wicket.. plenty of runs...

although if came to essex that would be great Smile

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 12:57 pm

My ancestors used to hang around in Somerset... nice place. I visited once. Smile

So you're in Essex? Some great players there. Nice countryside too...

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Post by msp83 Sun 24 Jul 2011, 1:01 pm

It was Virender Sehwag who has told his IPL teammate David Warner that if he makes some mental adjustment he can become a good test cricketer. Certainly Sehwag should know, he too plays his shots in test cricket, more effectively than anyone else at present, and has been doing it successfully for the last 10 years.
I believe Warner is better than Philip Hughes.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 1:06 pm

Linebreaker wrote:My ancestors used to hang around in Somerset... nice place. I visited once. Smile

So you're in Essex? Some great players there. Nice countryside too...

yh i am lol

obviously warner do well in the big bash

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 1:16 pm

yes msp... Virender should know. He's pioneered that super aggressive style from the top of the order. He's be a great mentor for Warner. Agree about him being better than Hughes too.

Yes cf, it should be fireworks watching him batting with Gayle...

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 1:24 pm

Speaking of BBL... here are the latest teams. It's tiny compared to IPL but still should be fun to watch

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 1:28 pm

jade dernbach quality t20 bowler in english 20-20 comp

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 3:57 pm

khawajla, could open, and maybe marsh, at 3 or 4?

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 4:05 pm

Khawaja could open but it would be a big ask for someone so young and inexperienced - although he has a good head on his shoulders. I think he would be a good 4 (when Ponting retires). Senior batsmen should be asked to take more responsibility. So I'd go for:

Watson (could//should be D.T.O. but if he's happy there I won't argue...)
Hughes/Marsh/Warner ? prefer last 2!
Clarke
Khawaja
Punter

something like that... I haven't given too much thought since we are in mid winter here. No FC matches to guage form.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 4:08 pm

yh possibly, i think they will ease ponting out of the team...

i also think they should ditch hilditch the selector.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 4:12 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:yh possibly, i think they will ease ponting out of the team...

i also think they should ditch hilditch the selector.

Me too... they should have done that a while ago.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 4:13 pm

how do you think clarke will do as test skipper?

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 4:15 pm

At first I wasn't in favour of it but I think over time he will be OK. Most important to get on with the other guys - from what I heard there was some friction - but this may ease as certain players retire and the others get used to him.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 4:17 pm

i thought brad haddin, would have been a good choice of skipper

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 4:30 pm

Yeah, he's popular and a 'leader' type but maybe he's too old at 33.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 5:44 pm

is khawajla any good at odi cricket?

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 5:46 pm

Pretty good... a few match winning innings for NSW

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 5:46 pm

ah right, do you think he will be in their odi side, or is there better candiadtes?

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 24 Jul 2011, 5:48 pm

A chance he could be in the selector's eyes

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 5:53 pm

i always thought brad hodge should got have more of a run in the aussie team

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 7:08 pm

but it wouldnt suprise me now that punter has given up the captaincy that he scores a lot of runs

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Post by longhopmerchant Sun 24 Jul 2011, 7:33 pm

Being an ardent NSW fan, I'd like to point out a few facts:

Phillip Hughes is way superior to Dave Warner, you don't score 16 1st class hundreds, if you can't bat. Secondly Hughes has the distinction of being the youngest batsman in Test history to score a hundred in each dig of the match. Technical faults are over rated, the best ever Sir Donald Bradman had an unorthodox style, yet he averaged 99.94.

Khawaja isn't seen as a one day player, he seen as a 1st class specialist. He gets a few game in the NSW one day side when the Warner's etc are way on national duty.

Shaun Marsh shouldn't really be close to the Test side, his 1st class record is pretty poor, average under 40, coupled with his all ways unfit.

Pup(Michael Clarke) isn't suited to 3 in Tests, he is at his best at 5.

My top order would be:

1. Phillip Hughes
2. Dave Warner
3. Usman Khawaja
4. Shane Watson
5. Michael Clarke
6. Ricky Ponting/Michael Hussey
7. Tim Paine (w/k)

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 8:01 pm

im english, so dont get to watch aussie cricket, but i honestly dont think warner should be near the test side yet

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Post by longhopmerchant Sun 24 Jul 2011, 8:04 pm

Warner has been told go and score bucket loads of runs, and he's currently do so.

This last few 1st class games he has scored 99, 114, 82, 211 plus the 130 odd in the A team one day final.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 8:15 pm

i think ponting will relax more now, and churn out the runs, now he isnt skipper

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jul 2011, 8:22 pm

longhopmerchant wrote:Warner has been told go and score bucket loads of runs, and he's currently do so.

This last few 1st class games he has scored 99, 114, 82, 211 plus the 130 odd in the A team one day final.

against zimbabwe

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Post by longhopmerchant Mon 25 Jul 2011, 12:05 am

cricketfan90 wrote:
longhopmerchant wrote:Warner has been told go and score bucket loads of runs, and he's currently do so.

This last few 1st class games he has scored 99, 114, 82, 211 plus the 130 odd in the A team one day final.

against zimbabwe
Only the 82 and 211 where against Zimbabwe. The 99 and 114 where in the Sheffield Shield. The 134 against a very decent South Africa A bowling unit.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jul 2011, 10:54 am

ok sorry didnt realise only two of thm were against zimabwe Smile

still dont think he is ready for test cricket though.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jul 2011, 6:00 pm

ive heard greg chappell is the person responsibly mainly at looking at new talent, what does he think about warner?

is anything said in australia?

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Post by reducedwaistline Mon 25 Jul 2011, 6:03 pm

From what I know of Greg Chappell, he loves youth, look at his stint with the Indians, he got 5-6 youngsters in at every opportunity.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jul 2011, 6:13 pm

so steve smith, will probably be a regualr in the side now then lol

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Jul 2011, 6:58 pm

callum ferguson should be near the test side surely?

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