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Post by jimbobgooner Tue 26 Jul 2011, 11:42 am

First topic message reminder :

Chris Adams has named an unchanged squad for Surrey's visit to Cheltenham to face Gloucestershire in the LV= County Championship match, beginning on Wednesday
The full Surrey squad to face Gloucestershire in the LV= County Championship at Cheltenham from Wednesday 27th July to Saturday 30th July is
Rory Hamilton-Brown (Captain)
Arun Harinath
Jason Roy
Mark Ramprakash
Zander de Bruyn
Steven Davies (Wicket Keeper)
Tom Maynard
Zafar Ansari
Gareth Batty
Yasir Arafat
Stuart Meaker
Tim Linley
Jade Dernbach


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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 5:19 pm

takes ramps level with viv richards 114 and three behind bradman whoever he is Wink

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Post by davidjennings Thu 28 Jul 2011, 5:24 pm

A quick word of thanks to Coughtrie for dropping Ramps on 4 (bet Jon Batty wouldn't have done that Wink )

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 5:27 pm

davidjennings wrote:A quick word of thanks to Coughtrie for dropping Ramps on 4 (bet Jon Batty wouldn't have done that Wink )
chris from stroud would concur Wink

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 5:29 pm

about time we took advantage of a dropped catch after what happened with blake and Dalrymple mad

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 5:40 pm

350 up clap

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 5:50 pm

100 partnership clap clap

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Post by davidjennings Thu 28 Jul 2011, 5:53 pm

davidjennings wrote:a lead of 100+ looks optimistic from here

Looking more feasible now. How pleasant to be wrong!

First 10 overs with the new ball have gone at a run at a ball, too.

Oh Surrey, how did I ever doubt you???

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 6:09 pm

50 for arafat clap

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 6:09 pm

and takes the lead past 100 clap

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 6:25 pm

nooooooooo ramps out for 141

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu 28 Jul 2011, 6:35 pm

and thats stumps 392 for 8 shame ramps got out with only 2 overs left but i think we would have all taken him getting 141 before the game started. also arafat excellent now with the bat as well as the ball lets hope this is the turning point for him and of cause not to forget the brain going past 1,000 runs clap clap clap what a excellent signing he has been. so a 106 lead first target tomorrow get those 8 runs and get the full bonus points from this game you never know just how much they might count in the end. Very Happy

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Post by ChrisfromStroud Thu 28 Jul 2011, 7:36 pm

Gloucs: 275-7, then 286-10.
Sorry: 275-7, then 392-8 and counting...
Crying or Very sad

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Post by guildfordbat Thu 28 Jul 2011, 7:37 pm

A good summing up, JimBob.

We're clearly on top although it could have been even better. Several pluses so far but disappointed by four of the top six settling in and then getting out without a meaningful score.

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Post by ChrisfromStroud Thu 28 Jul 2011, 7:51 pm

Re Ramps and Coughtrie, ChrisfromStroud says that Alex Gidman says:
"We all drop catches as professional cricketers and it is part and parcel of the game."
CfS also says that Alex Gidman also says:
"Ramprakash and Marcus Trescothick are the two batsmen in county cricket, pretty much in a different league from the rest. Apart from that one error, Ramprakash played a risk-free innings that was a model for any young player because he went at his own pace and never looked in any trouble. He has been doing that for years and is deservedly held in high esteem."
CfS also wishes that Ramps gets a big fat zero in the Surrey 2nd innings.
Cfs also wishes the game gets as far as the Surrey 2nd innings...


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Post by guildfordbat Thu 28 Jul 2011, 7:52 pm

ChrisfromStroud wrote:Gloucs: 275-7, then 286-10.
Sorry: 275-7, then 392-8 and counting...
Crying or Very sad

Chris - I know it's no consolation to you in this match but it was long overdue for us to get the boot on the other foot ....

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Post by ChrisfromStroud Thu 28 Jul 2011, 7:55 pm

I don't care which foot your boot is on, I just wish you hadn't kicked us with it!

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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:44 pm

i see ramps found his form then

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Post by Tibor Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:46 pm

Now now Chris, remember we let you win a T20 game earlier this season.

Time to call in the debt?

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Post by guildfordbat Thu 28 Jul 2011, 8:59 pm

Tibor wrote:Now now Chris, remember we let you win a T20 game earlier this season.

Time to call in the debt?

There is also the large matter of a CC defeat at the Oval ....

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Post by ChrisfromStroud Thu 28 Jul 2011, 9:03 pm

Have you forgotten that we let you win the Championship in 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956 etc etc etc......................?

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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jul 2011, 9:08 pm

i think surrey could do with another middle order batsman.

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Post by davidjennings Thu 28 Jul 2011, 9:38 pm

ChrisfromStroud wrote:Have you forgotten that we let you win the Championship in 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956 etc etc etc......................?

Nice one! Very Happy

Though the Championship has changed since then (two divisions etc), so that debt's been written off - sorry!

Smiles may be on other sides of our faces in 24 hours' time...

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Thu 28 Jul 2011, 9:49 pm

Perverse game cricket....

Arafat looked dire most of the season and now suddenly delivers with both bat and ball. I can't remember which of us Surrey posters said basically that we never wanted to see him play again.... So, some credit to Adams for playing him instead of Meaker who seems to have gone off the boil...

Ramps - incredible! I guess these performance will be less frequent now - but even so..... Well done too to the Brain.....

Pity about Roy and Ansari and various others who didn't press on to a big score.

Many a match has been won from first inning deficit of more than 100... Erm

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Post by guildfordbat Thu 28 Jul 2011, 10:19 pm

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Perverse game cricket....


Many a match has been won from first inning deficit of more than 100... Erm

Not recently by us though, Corporal!

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri 29 Jul 2011, 12:29 am

cricketfan90 wrote:i think surrey could do with another middle order batsman.
anyone in mind cricketfan

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 9:03 am

So a very decent day in the end, fantastic for Ramps to get his form back - not that I ever doubted he would! Also great to see another great performance from Arafat with the bat this time, I admit that I was one who said I wouldn't be bothered if he didn't play for us again so to see him come out with an effort like this is great.

As for Roy, I'm much happier with him coming in at 6/7 and playing his natural game than opening. He can be a superb counter attacker but has also proved in the CB40 that he can play a more conrtrolled measured innings if the situation requires. He's only 20 and has only played about 10 FC matches so I don't think it's time to worry just yet!

cricketfan - I don't think we do, if anything we need openers but we have 3 young inexperienced batsmen in our 6 so inevitably they will sometimes fail but they are all very talented and Maynard and Hyphen have reasonable figures this year despite RHB being a makeshift opener all season.

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Post by thegooch7 Fri 29 Jul 2011, 11:14 am

Yay!! Full bonus points!!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm can Yas follow Gramps and get his ton??

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Post by Tibor Fri 29 Jul 2011, 11:15 am

Nope.

407/9.

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Post by thegooch7 Fri 29 Jul 2011, 11:17 am

No!

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Post by thegooch7 Fri 29 Jul 2011, 11:17 am

Beat me to it Tibor!

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Post by davidjennings Fri 29 Jul 2011, 11:32 am

Last three wickets put on 160 runs. Seems to be increasingly common in county cricket these days for the last five wickets to make their presence felt. Well do I remember watching Glos at something like 54-5 chasing 160, before the dastardly Gidman and Coughtrie spoilt it all. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself (though the 54-5 bit would be nice).

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jul 2011, 12:09 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:i think surrey could do with another middle order batsman.
anyone in mind cricketfan

someone in the james vince kind of mould... i no that sounds stupid, but i think they need a genuine batsman, someone else who can just think about their batting and not worry about having to bowl...

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 29 Jul 2011, 12:35 pm

Hi chaps,

Quickly logging in.

Looking good. Full bonus points. A very decent lead. And an early wicket for the Viscount (42 in the CC this season and counting).

Will things be so good when I return around tea?


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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jul 2011, 12:41 pm

how many wickets has young dernbach got in this game?

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 1:03 pm

Disappointing to only get 1 wicket before lunch but hopefully Yasir and Viscount can pick up a couple after the break.

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Post by davidjennings Fri 29 Jul 2011, 1:06 pm

Cricketfan,

1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/static/cricket/statistics/scorecards/2011/07/86596/html/scorecard.stm for all your other scorecard-related questions

or perhaps your question was rhetorical?

p.s. bit cheeky calling him "young" dernbach if you're really the age you claim on your profile Wink

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri 29 Jul 2011, 1:07 pm

spot on phil we need to get quick wickets after lunch. i dread to think we will need to chase anything over 200 to win this

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 1:10 pm

We should be able to chase anything under 250 with relative ease so they still have a long way to go. However I would like to think we can keep them to under 300 and leave ourselves needing under 200 to win, depends how the bowlers do though.

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri 29 Jul 2011, 1:57 pm

come on surrey dig deep

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 1:59 pm

Chris to put a 'Dent' in our hopes by beating his highest score of 98? More than likely I would say given our form in the matter.

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Post by davidjennings Fri 29 Jul 2011, 3:18 pm

Nice to see young Dernbach (I'm 46, so I can say that) showing his tactical insights on twitter http://twitter.com/#!/Jwd_16/status/96946476252540928 Captaincy potential, for sure.

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 3:18 pm

Reports on Twitter that Jon Lewis is joining Surrey at the end of the season. Possibly a strange signing if true as we have plenty of young talented bowlers here. Then again he would be a good non overseas replacement for Arafat and has plenty of experience which may help us finish teams off for a change!

In other news it's now 113/2 and raining. At least they're still behind but we do need a couple of wickets sharpish.

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 3:27 pm

Jon Lewis signing confirmed by Surrey.

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri 29 Jul 2011, 3:32 pm

Phil that news is shocking Jon Lewis will be 36 next month and is coming to up the end of his career.the likes of meaker and Dunn will not be pleased

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 4:07 pm

Gloucs ahead with only 2 wickets down, this is rubbish Sad

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 4:17 pm

That's better! The Gaffer does the trick! Dent still on to beat his best though...

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Post by thegooch7 Fri 29 Jul 2011, 4:19 pm

That Lewis signing makes no sense whatsoever. I'm sure he's half decent but it's a quality spinner we are crying out for.

Hang on, scrub that - Zaffar could be our answer!!
3 down...........GAME ON!!

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Post by davidjennings Fri 29 Jul 2011, 4:25 pm

jimbobgooner wrote:Phil that news is shocking Jon Lewis will be 36 next month and is coming to up the end of his career.the likes of meaker and Dunn will not be pleased

I'm with Carrotdude on this: seems like Lewis is a like-for-like replacement for Arafat, but freeing up the overseas spot. Rightly on wrongly, Adams wants one senior seamer in the team, especially for the matches where Tremlett is unavailable. Lewis's age is actually the reason why Meaker and Dunn should not be too peed off: it's just sending them a message that they're not ready to lead the attack yet, but they can earn their stripes over the next two years, knowing that Lewis is unlikely to have his contract extended past 2013.

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 29 Jul 2011, 4:25 pm

One thought about the Lewis signing, I think it's the experience he brings as to why we have gone for him. Our current pace bowlers (minus Tremlett and Arafat)

Linley - 28 FC matches
Dernbach - 62 FC matches
Meaker - 24 FC matches
Dunn - 4 FC matches

Jon Lewis has played 222 FC matches.

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Post by davidjennings Fri 29 Jul 2011, 4:54 pm

Carrotdude wrote:
Linley - 28 FC matches
Dernbach - 62 FC matches
Meaker - 24 FC matches
Dunn - 4 FC matches

Jon Lewis has played 222 FC matches.

Good policework, dude! Though Dernbach's 62 is the equivalent of almost 4 full seasons, so he ought to be in a position to lead now or soon.

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