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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:08 am

HHH apologises for his screw up, says Nash is gonne be here, calls out the new champ. No reaction at all for ADR!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:09 am

No name plate for ADR! Loser!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:11 am

Starts banging on about the fans, respect, dignity, blah blah blah...... please cue Punk's music?

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:13 am

Says he loves Rey Mysterio (poor bloke).... says he loves beating him........ started his career beating Rey........ dirty oh dear!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:15 am

Promo over, no Punk.... or Cena! Lame. Here comes the commercial!

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:16 am

Quality start lol

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:16 am

Cut to HHH entering Cena's locker room, and then the first add is the All Star game with Rock hitting Rock Bottom on HHH...... Wow, Hunter finally put someone over!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:19 am

We're back, here's token crazy black man (Truth) in a falls count anywhere matc, i'm assumign against Morrison?

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Post by hodge Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:20 am

lost track of time and just turned it on, sounds like i didnt miss much then

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:21 am

Yep, Johnny boy requested it, lame 'hurra-pop' promo. My water has more personality. Why request a FCA match to get yourself buried? Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids.

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:21 am

Lol,u got beat last time you met,Douche!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:22 am

hodge wrote:lost track of time and just turned it on, sounds like i didnt miss much then

Nope, JoMo punches worse than Cena!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:23 am

Ad break, hopefully Truth decapitates JoMo before we get back!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:26 am

Nope, still has a head, damn.

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:29 am

Quite a boring match, Truth dominating. I'm calling it, if JoMo loses, he's either requested his release or he's getting FE'd....

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:30 am

Close 2 count for JoMO, we'll ignore the fact that Truth's shoulder was up at 1!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:32 am

Spank my ass, JoMO won?! Missed the winning spot, was ok on the replay, bit weak, 2 **

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:32 am

PUNK! He looks upset, damn those gladhanding, non-sensical, douchbag yes men!

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:34 am

Nova bad t.v match tbf,couldn't care less tbf!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:36 am

Likewise, i'll see if Punk shows, if not, i'm going to bed!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:37 am

Miz is here! Suited and booted....

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:38 am

Jared from Subway?! WTF!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:40 am

Subway promo!? Seriously? Bring back Russo.

Holy hell, BATISTA!

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:41 am

Ok, so not Batista....... shiote segment, limo pulling up....... Nash. Oh joy.

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:42 am

This should be interesting,punk will be out on the hour!

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Post by longrangeeffort Tue 16 Aug 2011, 8:20 am

So Nash gets a text from HHH phone saying to take out the winner? Sounds fishy to me! Who's to say that someone (cough ADR cough) got hold of the phone and text it themselves?

Unless it was explained in the RAW...i only read the results.

ADR strikes me as an annoying champ and thats where his heat, if any, will come from. People wont like him but for the wrong reasons...might be because i cant ever really watch WWE, but i just dont really give a rats ass about the guy..hes just...annoying!!

Would much prefer to see Truth there to be honest. Thats just me though.

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Post by Ent Tue 16 Aug 2011, 8:45 am

ADR will be getting xpac heat by next week and drop the belt sharpish.

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Post by Guest Tue 16 Aug 2011, 10:47 am

For a second, I actually thought we were going to have a RAW without Cena.

Silly me.

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 16 Aug 2011, 12:48 pm

It's obviously steph or vince who got hold of the phone.

Can't understand what Cenas's argument was? Punk doesn't care that Del Too cashed it in but johnny boy felt aggrieved he did?

Wtf?

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Post by Crimey Tue 16 Aug 2011, 12:51 pm

People can have different views on the same thing you now Owl? Punk clearly said he didn't think it was bad of Del Rio because Punk had done the same thing twice in the past, John Cena has only ever won honourably, so feels it isn't right of Del Rio to win that way.

Not had to understand at all.

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Post by JamesLincs Tue 16 Aug 2011, 1:08 pm

O M G! kevin nash W T F? thought he was dead L O L

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:13 pm

So cena has a problem with the past cash ins? I fully understand what he is saying but at the same time he could have called out triple h or find a better reason to feud with del Rio.

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Post by Beer Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:01 pm

Waqtching it back, i'm genuinely surprised that Nash didn't blow a quad during that promo....

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:06 pm

@king beer Haha!


It would hypocritical of me to like what Nash is doing in wwe when I bashed him all the time in tna. Mason Ryan could have been in nash's spot.

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Post by Kenny Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:49 pm

My opinion on ADR is obvious i'd even take Cena as champ over him .

Imo the ' text ' to Nash will have been sent by Steph without HHH knowing or something close to that .

Mason Ryan could have done that spot but dont think they get his accent so that could of been a problem .
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Post by Samo Tue 16 Aug 2011, 9:36 pm

HitmanOwl wrote:@king beer Haha!


It would hypocritical of me to like what Nash is doing in wwe when I bashed him all the time in tna. Mason Ryan could have been in nash's spot.

No he couldnt. If they're going the way I think (hope) they are, with a new Corporation, the Nash is the only one who makes sense. Mason Ryan has no reason to attack Punk and side with HHH. Nash has the history with HHH, and personally, despite what he's done, I like Nash. I think he can bring new life into this feud.

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Post by Kay Fabe Tue 16 Aug 2011, 10:03 pm

Mason Ryan is injured and is freaking woeful anyway, at least Nash has credibility to his name within the story (one of his best friends is now the boss) plus with Punk being the Internet darling what better way to make Punk the uber face by putting him opposite internet hate figures Nash and Helmsley.

This has so much sense and logic to it that its scarey some people don't seem get it.

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Post by UpsideDownFace Tue 16 Aug 2011, 11:41 pm

Can I just ask. Wheres Kane? Im sure ive not seen his name in the results for a few weeks.

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Post by Brady12 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 11:46 pm

the-gaffer wrote:Mason Ryan is injured and is freaking woeful anyway, at least Nash has credibility to his name within the story (one of his best friends is now the boss) plus with Punk being the Internet darling what better way to make Punk the uber face by putting him opposite internet hate figures Nash and Helmsley.

This has so much sense and logic to it that its scarey some people don't seem get it.

Agree - but I think Batista would of been a better fit than Nash

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Post by Kay Fabe Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:03 am

Batista would have been but that would then require him to want to come back to the WWE and it woukd also potentially harm Punk since Batista wouldn't come back IMO just to put Punk over, Nash will know that he is only back to have Punk go over in the story, despite what some think, Nash has absolutely no say or sway in the biz so will do what he is told

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:31 am

I'm fully on board with Gaffer,

Some of you need to wake up if you think this storyline displays no logic.

This isn't a case of the same old Kliq taking over backstage and ruining the show - it's a parody of that. It's a deliberate send-up of their reputations for the storyline of Punk the entertainer vs The Kliq who's egos ruin the show. If it wasn't, then CM Punk would not be allowed to out there and call it out. And it has the twin effect of a) being a great storyline; and b) showing the world how ridiculous TNA is for letting it happen for real.

I think Raw was pretty solid, with some great promos in it (though the World Title match was a damp squib). And I'm all for seeing Nash as an enforcer style guy for whoever it is he is working for - and can't wait to see the things Punk says to him on the "pipebomb". Nash already looked worried he was out of his depth when Punk was talking.

And CM Punk doesn't need to feud for the title. He's feuding for the company. That's much bigger. And the symbolism of him stood on the ramp, staring at a cocksure Kevin Nash, through a line of security actually had the hairs standing on the back of my neck. It's Austin vs The Corporation. Us vs Them. And I'm hooked.

Bravo WWE.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:37 am

Can defo see KB writing for a dirtsheet!!!!

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Post by longrangeeffort Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:44 am

KINGKENNY7HEAVEN wrote:My opinion on ADR is obvious i'd even take Cena as champ over him .

Imo the ' text ' to Nash will have been sent by Steph without HHH knowing or something close to that .

Yeah i could see that happening. Then it turns out ADR and Steph are in cahoots. Maybe Steph wants the company back as she thinks HHH "stole" it from her Dad or something similar. HHH works with Punk (who reluctantly agrees..lesser of two evils and all that) to get the company in some sort of order...Cena can stand around talking about winning honourably and Vince can strut down the ramp at some point to say he's back in charge...

Ok those last two are a bit daft but I could see the first bit happening, especially if it turns out HHH was completely oblivious to Steph (it was her) sending that text to Nash...and the only reason i can think that she would is that she was in with ADR.

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Post by Kay Fabe Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:03 am

Cena can't be champ again for a while, if and when he does he'll need to beat Punk for it otherwise he'll look like a worthless paper champion, Punk beat him for the title twice at two consecutive PPV's yet hasn't had the chance to really be champion, Cena has played his part brilliantly in all of this but if he wins it again against anyone other than Punk then he wont appear deserving although it would tie in with Punk's belief that Cena is handed opportunities galore.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:45 am

My only disappointment came from Cena challenging Del Rio. But that said, I suppose there is no-one else at the moment, and to be fair Cena's promo at the end was pretty good and impassioned. I agree that he shouldn't win it.

Separate question - am I the only person who doesn't really want to see The Rock come back? I thought his facebook promo last week stank, and I worry he's going to do a bit of a Schumacher and sully his legendary status.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:48 am

I agree with you there gaffer and I can defo see the title being put on Cena just in time for Wrestlemania although I'm sure you woul agree that Rock Vs Cena doesn't need the title involved.

Electric - I can see him coming back for short amounts of time and I think that will be cool but only if he is used to entertain and to help get younger stars over.

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Post by Ent Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:43 pm

Punk won the matches via a blindside and incorrect pin fall, cena will look the same as always with the belt on him.

I haven't seen this weeks raw yet but unless someone has gone into detail re the kliq (rather than hints and winks to 'smarks') then it's gonna fall flat.

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Post by Kay Fabe Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:29 pm

Don't agree Ent, not in the slightest, Punk did win with a blindside but he couldn't put Punk away, no-one has ever looked so strong against Cena in a 1 on 1 match, lets get this straight, Cena wont lose completely clean in a 1 on 1 match until he turns heel which may never happen, no-one said Orton had an incorrect pin when Christians foot war under the ropes apart from Christian, Punk has been booked as an equal to Cena and is two up and anyone who thought either would lose clean was always going to be wrong.

Miky I believe the biggest Match should have the World Title involved, I hate when people say a match doesn't need the title, my view is if a certain match does need the title then it simply doesn't deserve it in the first place

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Post by Ent Wed 17 Aug 2011, 6:37 pm

Orton vs Christian furthered a storyline of Christians grievances. There was minimal point to this foot under the rope.

Sheamus beat cena clean (from memory, could be wrong).

Punk has been inconsistently booked IMO and the storyline has gotten very convoluted, I enjoyed up until the raw after MItb and feel the booking has been poor since.

I maintain cena will be a credible champion when he regains the belt, you would have had a point if punk hadn't returned, but he did, won cheaply and lost in a recognised way (albeit cheap). Cena will no doubt go over clean wen he next gets the belt.

I'm no fan of cena or punk and I do feel known fans of punk are overhyping things of late.

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Post by Holymiky Wed 17 Aug 2011, 6:38 pm

Gaffer - That's fair enough and i do agree that some matches do need it. Not all matches need it though imo.

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