WHY MAYWEATHER IS A TOP 10 ALLTIMER ALREADY!!

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Unbeaten for over a decade and a wonderful defensive fighter perhaps only with Ray Robinson to touch him in that regard or even Michael Nunn....Ring fighter of the year countless times and winner of over five world titles at different weights I can't think of a modern fighter who can touch this record. Considering Chavez is a near top 10 alltimer and didn't reign as long and also didn't beat three current at the time top 5 p4pers then it goes without saying that this guy belongs in an alltime top 10 list!!

First guy to beat Hatton, Beat DelaHoya at a weight that suited Oscar, Mosley and Marquez convincingly.......It's a record that can only be compared to the best.

So come on guys give Floyd his due. No matter what he's done outside the ring..This guy is a modern genius and deserves respect..

Would also add the 5ft 10 or 11 Bob Fitzsimmons managed to weigh in at 151 for his world middleweight title fight against Jack Dempsey in the 1800's and at the champions insistence the weigh in was literally five minutes before the fight.

Fitz did this with no modern training, nutrition or supplements and this hurt him not a jot as he proceeded to hand out a fearsom beating to a guy who had been all but unbeatable previously. Didn't seem to hurt his strength power or conditioning too much in that one

Condition training is essential but unless you fight like Hatton then strength training isn't all that important, building muscles makes you slower.

One can be stronger without bulking up. That's what strength and conditioning experts are employed for. Imagine a faster, stronger version of SRR. Even a fraction stronger and faster. That is truley frightening.

i say matty hatton would beat them both!!

zalay wrote:i say matty hatton would beat them both!!

On the same night no doubt.

Robinson would have had no need to be stronger, very rarely does brute strength get you anywhere in boxing unless your a Hatton or La Motta.
In concentrating on speed you lose other aspects of your game and this can sometimes do more harm than good.

The differences in speed and strength between the eras is so small that whether you like to admit it or not the skillset is the most important part.

Speed and strength alone get you nowhere

imperialghosty wrote:Robinson would have had no need to be stronger, very rarely does brute strength get you anywhere in boxing unless your a Hatton or La Motta.
In concentrating on speed you lose other aspects of your game and this can sometimes do more harm than good.

The differences in speed and strength between the eras is so small that whether you like to admit it or not the skillset is the most important part.

Speed and strength alone get you nowhere

I'm not talking about brute strength only. Leg strength, shoulder etc enabling him to throw harder and faster combinations.