24 / 7 Mayweather vs Ortiz eps 1+ 2

by jimdig Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:14 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c98cLd9-eUg

Thoughts? Personally I think Ortiz has Floyds character nailed, he's a child that never grew up. Not alot of training shown in this, but I think that Ortiz could end up quiting again. Mayweather has said previously on the HBO face-off, that he'll be standing in front of Ortiz, I think that's exactly what will happen, Floyd has grown into a big welter, This fight could resemble mayweather v Gatti, I think Ortiz is going to come forward and get beat down.

Looking forward to the next Ortiz comes accross as a likable guy, Mayweather, not so much.

P.S. the link messes up for a few seconds around 24mins, stick with it, it comes back and you miss nothing.

Link to episode 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjEM0GiTUJM

by azumah HOF Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:48 am

Yes watched it last night! Great show..... Floyds 24/7 define the show. I like Victor, he is a nice kid and an endearing story! Unfortunately takes much more to beat Floyd.
As for Floyd.... he is focused no doubt on that. The explosive argument with Floyd sr is fun and i respect Floyd for sticking up for his uncle RogerWHO IS RESPONSIBLE for taking him to the next level! I think that bust up is gonna make Floyd even more keen to prove a point.... TO HIS DAD!

Lastly.... Floyd's lady.... Ms Jackson..... woooooweeee i'm in love!!! kiss

by jimdig Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:01 am

Ms Jackson is something else zoomy, I'm hoping she'll be the star of the show this series.
Would like to see some more floyd sparring, even more padwork, to help judge how sharp he is, age will catch him at some point, just not soon enough for Ortiz I reckon.

Floyd is a conundrum, charismatic yet annoying, brash yet sometimes humble, the only part of him that is consistant are his skills, he's a joy to watch.

The only other constant, is that the mayweathers are CRAZY!!!

by OasisBFC Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:37 am

jimdig wrote:

Floyd is a conundrum, charismatic yet annoying, brash yet sometimes humble, the only part of him that is consistant are his skills, he's a joy to watch.

very true.

id argue that this is the best 24/7 yet.
with ortiz we're learning something, his hard past, his family and the fact his trainer works for bloody coca-cola before every training session! thats brilliant. ortiz is a big guy, very strong with power to knock anyone down in the surrounding divisions.

and mayweather - his team seems have grown even more.
that argument in the gym was the best scene in 24/7 history, purely because it showed a bit of drama - something that its been lacking for years. usually its he same old training routines and interviews about how the fighter is going to show the world how good they are, followed by exactly the same from the other fighter.

and we saw floyd plays dominos....on multi-tv screens

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:37 pm

I thought this was the best episode of 24/7 I've seen.

Does anyone know what Jeff Mayweather does nowadays?

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:04 pm

Can anyone believe the argument between them? Anyone believe Ortiz "I don't remember what happened in the ring against Maidana"?Sounds like BS to me

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:08 pm

All I remember is Ms Jackson I got the kleenex out after that.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:10 pm

Baha, yeah she ain't too bad is she?

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:11 pm

You would need to consider it.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:31 pm

She wouldn't be kicked out of bed if you you know what i mean Wink

by Guest Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:27 pm

Miss Jackson.. yum yum

The argument is crazy

by **Seanusarrilius** Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:35 pm

Nice episode, Floyd Mayweather "and i aint no junior" haha, love it.Thisis a fight i am excited to see

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:35 pm

I know, it seemed alright and didn't think it was gonna be a major arguement then it really kicked off... Then Floyd started spouting ridiculous nonsense... I thought Floyds outburst at the beginning was hilarious, you can hear the crew laughing in the background as well. "Name one athlete that has been on top for 16 years straight and dominated without a loss like a I have NAME ONE!" He should be on Comedy Central.

by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:50 pm

That argument just showed the simmering tensions between a farther who in some way abandoned his son. A son will never forget it and will never forget the struggles his single mum had to go through. It wont take much for a barny to develop between them. Its very sad but is more then boxing matters its personal. This may distract Floyd, cant be helpful.

Ortiz looks focused but hestill seems too green to go up against PBF.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:53 pm

Ortiz story is very harsh, his father used to beat him also. Full credit to the pair of them for getting themselves out of there, you see people in far better situations than them that are never going to amount to anything on the Jeremy Kyle Show.

by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:05 pm

Otiz has come through a lot of pain in his life and it shows in his aggressive style but he will need boxing smarts to beat Floyd.

p.s I dont know if anyone noticed Miss Jackson winking at me in the 24/7 episode. Was it me or what? Did we just share a moment? Did anyone see that?

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:06 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:That argument just showed the simmering tensions between a farther who in some way abandoned his son. A son will never forget it and will never forget the struggles his single mum had to go through. It wont take much for a barny to develop between them. Its very sad but is more then boxing matters its personal. This may distract Floyd, cant be helpful.

Ortiz looks focused but hestill seems too green to go up against PBF.

I could believe Floyd Snr disrespected Roger the way he did saying he taught Floyd Jnr. Sad old man living off his sons coat tails. Probably always jealous of Roger as well because he was the one with the talent.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:07 pm

Mate I was not looking at Miss Jacksons eyes!

I think his only way to beat Floyd is to border on recklessness at times to get him out of there, usually I'd say that is a stupid idea, but against Floyd I see it as one of the only ways.

by John Bloody Wayne Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:08 pm

I just fnd it kinda disturbing watching a guy talk to his own father that way, regardless of past history.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:09 pm

It's not as though Floyd Snr didn't talk sh!t back... But I know what you mean JBW

by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:10 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Mate I was not looking at Miss Jacksons eyes!

I think his only way to beat Floyd is to border on recklessness at times to get him out of there, usually I'd say that is a stupid idea, but against Floyd I see it as one of the only ways.

You might be right as I dont think anyone can box with Floyd. Ortiz may have to make a street fight out of this one, saying that Hatton tried the same and got outclassed and demolished.

by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:13 pm

John Bloody Wayne wrote:I just fnd it kinda disturbing watching a guy talk to his own father that way, regardless of past history.

I understand your point but as I have said when a farther abandons his family in any way the kids never forget it. Still a bigger man who is mentally more mature would handle it a bit differently.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:15 pm

Think their is a possible way of mixing Hattons and De La Hoyas tactics and winning rounds whilst keeping Floyd uncomfortable and keeping him inactive and getting the rounds on pure aggression... But I wouldn't want to be the one to be trying to execute that gameplan...

by Sugar Floyd Louis Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:17 pm

John Bloody Wayne wrote:I just fnd it kinda disturbing watching a guy talk to his own father that way, regardless of past history.

I agree, but its just like me giving you a tyre and some body parts...... leaving you, going jail etc. Someone else comes along, helps you build a bugatti veyron. Years later when I see you doing well with that car I come and all of a sudden want recognition and all the credit. Its ridiculous. Yes without me you wouldn't have it but still....

by Sugar Floyd Louis Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:18 pm

During that argument, what did everyone make of the point Mayweather Jr made about Hatton and De La Hoya not wanting to be with his dad??...

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:21 pm

Not wanting to be his trainer and how he apparently "ruined them"

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:24 pm

Floyd Snr said he left Oscar but that is rubbish the money Oscar generated would have meant he would have got a considerable wedge so it's rubbish. Did Floyd Snr train Hatton for the Pac fight?

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:25 pm

Yeah he did and according to Hatton he was "Overtrained" Make of that what you will...

by Sugar Floyd Louis Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:28 pm

Yh well makes Floyd Jrs point relevant and he won the argument for me (though it wasn't a good 1 to watch). Not that I ever thought Roger wasn't the better trainer anyway, he's also underrated imo. But you have to give Roach more credit because Roger (I think) can only be asked for Floyd.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:29 pm

Well Hatton never dropped him then because he never fought again.

Floyd Snr was probably used to better athletes than Ricky who's lifestyle was shocking for a guy at his level.

by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:31 pm

Anyone think Fiddy is tapping Miss Jackson when jnr aint watching?

by Sugar Floyd Louis Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:36 pm

prettyboykev - true. I swear he used to casually have go pubs to drink with people in Manchester??? He even said in an interview after he retired, he "looked forward to getting in shape for fights" whereas you have people like Floyd and Pacquiao that are probably fit enough to get in the ring even when on a "break".

onetwoforever - apparently 50 once leaked a photo of Ms Jacksons bum lol (with no clothes) on twitter. But quickly denied it and claimed it was one of his "jump offs" (you couldn't see their face by the way).

by John Bloody Wayne Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:38 pm

Yeah, it's a very complicated relationship between the two Floyds, I just can't imagine what has to happen to one's mind before the ego takes over the heart and produces some of those words towards his own blood.

Man, Fiddy's too busy eating all the ravioli. He loved that stuff!

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:41 pm

It's a highly dysfunctional family JBW... They'd probably all be in jail or dead if it wasn't for boxing in honesty...

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:42 pm

I think fiddy needed some protein to counter the roids. That man is huge. He's like the side of a house!!!

by John Bloody Wayne Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:45 pm

24/7 for Mayeather fights, like an after dark Cosby show.

"Kids today be like MOTHERF***KER GET THE **** OUTTA MY GYM YOU ******* FAGG**"

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:48 pm

Wouldn't suprise me if its like that next ep!

by Adam D Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:52 pm

In case you missed the announcement on the Mayweather v Ortiz thread, the 24/7 is going to be shown on terrestrial TV:

Primetime wrote:24/7: Mayweather vs Ortiz Special On 5USA

WBC Welterweight Title
When: 17th September Live from the MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas
What: Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Victor Ortiz
Where: All on Primetime: Sky channel 480, Virgin Media ‘On Demand’ and online using the 606v2 link Primetime Website

As the mouth watering return to the ring of Floyd ‘Money’ Mayweather creeps ever closer, UK fans will be able to catch up with the recent comings and goings of the Mayweather clan with a 1 hour special airing on 5USA.

The acclaimed 24/7 series is produced by HBO and allows fans to follow the preparations of both fighters ahead of the September 17th fight. Floyd Mayweather Jr will be making his 5th appearance on 24/7 after first appearing ahead of his 2007 showdown with Oscar De La Hoya.

Sharing the spotlight is WBC Welterweight champion ‘Vicious’ Victor Ortiz. Ortiz has risen to the top of his game despite an upbringing that would have toppled lesser men. Abandoned by his mother at age 7 to an alcoholic father, Ortiz turned to boxing, and despite a spell as a drug dealer has turned his life around to become champion of the world. His story outside of the ring promises to be both touching and inspirational.

The first three episodes of 24/7: Mayweather vs Ortiz will be shown in a special 1 hour programme on 5 USA at midnight on Friday 16th September before the 4th and final episode is premiered exclusively on Primetime in the build up to the Mayweather vs Ortiz Pay-Per-View spectacular.

The main event is backed up by an unrivalled undercard featuring another 2 World title fights. Mexican sensation Saul Alvarez will be defending his WBC Light Middleweight title against Alfonso Gomez live from the Staples Center in Los Angeles and Erik Morales aims to add another world title to his record of 7 titles in 5 weight classes by capturing the vacant WBC Light Welterweight title against Lucas Matthysse. Also fighting on the Pay Per View are unbeaten Light Welterweight Jessie Vargas and Josesito Lopez making this the boxing event of the year!

British fighter Anthony Crolla will be fighting the Mexican Pipino Cuevas Jr in a contest to be shown Free To View on Primetime in the lead in to the Pay Per View broadcast.

Floyd ‘Money’ Mayweather vs ‘Vicious’ Victor Ortiz promises to be the best value Pay Per View event of the year and you can catch all the action exclusively on Primetime!

You can order the card using the 606v2 link Primetime Website or Virgin Media customers can purchase using the ‘On Demand’ menu. Customers on Sky must register the first time they use Primetime and once registered can purchase using the ‘box office’ menu.

by Imperial Ghosty Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:57 pm

As much I like Mayweather, i'm sure as hell not going to pay for a fight against Ortiz, were it the big one then I can understand but there's little reason to charge people in this country for it, just when we were getting more boxing free to air (well on sky), garbage like this happens.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:01 pm

Sad but true...

Though I do think this is a viable PPV fight - with a good undercard on it I just don't feel that urgency to buy it, especially as it would have been gift wrapped to us for free in HD with better analysis and commentary on Sky... But uncle Schaeffer throws his toys out of the pram =/... In a way I hope this fight is a MASSIVE flop for Primetime so Schaefer has no choice but to go back to making money with Sky... Sorry to sound so derogatory...

by Imperial Ghosty Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:03 pm

It's a viable PPV fight in America but definitely not in this country, find it disgraceful that we get Mayweather against Mosley on skysports then have to pay for this, companies are trying to cash in fights like this but thankfully they're shooting themselves in the foot.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:05 pm

They're shooting themselves in the foot in the long term, for the short-term they're happy...

by Imperial Ghosty Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:09 pm

Short term no one is going to buy the fight, I don't see the interest in the fight outside of die hard fans of Mayweather which in this country will be minimal, if Khan can't sell then you forget about a fight featuring two americans selling.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:12 pm

Don't know how well Khan sold, but I don't think it was good otherwise they would have released numbers... (Unless I missed that) But I completely agree with you struggle to see the fight selling great, if it was at normal hours it would do better but given the fact the show starts at 2... I ain't too sure... Will this be on Radio 5 Live? I might just listen to it on the radio...

by Imperial Ghosty Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:16 pm

I'd very much doubt it would be on Radio 5, just not a fight to get the pulse racing, there are only 3 fights out there that matter to the british public.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao- Too big not to matter
Froch vs Ward- on skysports
Khan vs Bradley- Doesn't look like happening anytime soon

Other than that there's no need for any fight to be on PPV

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:20 pm

Froch came along at a bad point otherwise perhaps his fight would possibly be PPV over here on a real channel!

by Imperial Ghosty Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:21 pm

Happier having Froch on skysports, he's not well known enough to garner PPV.

by AlexHuckerby Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:30 pm

Think the same but if Sky really wanted to sell the crap out of it without even spending much money they could... Froch has a loyal fan base also, and is affiliated with a football team, it's not quite the same as Hatton and Man City but still...
But same here rather it be on SS1!

by Scottrf Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:06 pm

Floyd is definitely sleeping with a Jackson, but it's not Shantal.

by **Fists of Fury** Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:11 pm

Really enjoyed that episode. The Mayweather's are absolutely mental, no prizes for guessing what their favourite word is in that row at the end.

As ridiculous as Floyd is, can't help but like him - suppose it is because he is one of the rare cases where all the mouth and hype is backed up in emphatic style every time he steps through those ropes.

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