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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 9:44

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(From Cricinfo)
Team news

With the probable selection of Alex Hales at the top of the order, England are set to field their 19th opening partnership in 38 Twenty20s.
The bowling attack is set to have a familiar look to it, with Jade
Dernbach's performance in a rain-reduced game against Ireland having
cemented his value in the shortest form of the game. Jos Buttler, who
once again demonstrated his big-hitting credentials for Somerset on
Twenty20 finals day, could find himself squeezed out of the reckoning by
fellow newcomer, Ben Stokes.



England: (possible) 1 Craig Kieswetter (wk), 2 Alex Hales, 3
Kevin Pietersen, 4 Eoin Morgan, 5 Ravi Bopara, 6 Ben Stokes / Jos
Buttler, 7 Samit Patel, 8 Tim Bresnan, 9 Stuart Broad (capt), 10 Graeme
Swann, 11 Jade Dernbach



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Dravid's debut coincides with the end of Gautam Gambhir's tour. He has
not been himself since thwacking his head on the Oval turf while
dropping Kevin Pietersen in the fourth Test, and has finally bowed out
with a concussion. Parthiv Patel, the diminutive wicketkeeper who first
made his name on the 2002 tour of England, is set to open the innings,
with the twin spin attack of Amit Mishra and R Ashwin also likely to get
an outing.





India: (possible) 1 Parthiv Patel, 2 Rahul Dravid, 3 Virat Kohli,
4 Rohit Sharma, 5 Suresh Raina, 6 MS Dhoni (capt / wk), 7 Amit Mishra, 8
R Ashwin, 9 Praveen Kumar, 10 Munaf Patel, 11 R Vinay Kumar


Form guide (Most recent first)


England LLWWW
India WWWWL



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Pitch and conditions

Old Trafford had a reputation as being one of the quickest decks in
world cricket, until the square was rotated as part of the ground's
redevelopment. Since then, the pitch conditions have been somewhat
subcontinental, although that didn't aid Sri Lanka in their
ODI-series-deciding loss earlier in the season. The weather, ever a
factor in Manchester, is set fair. Which is nice.

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 18:51

Virat and Rohit in

Dhoni to come.

170+ I think

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 18:52

Virat gone now. This is a good fightback from England!

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Post by Liam_Main Wed 31 Aug - 18:52

2 quick wickets from England!
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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 18:52

Raina, Rohit and Dhoni are so destructive tho...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 31 Aug - 18:52

need after Dravid made them look silly for an while.

200 on here from the best team in the world.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 18:53

It will take them 1/2 overs to get properly in though and Eng have all the momentum behind them now. Not sure I agree with the short tactic at Raina...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 18:55

good captaincy and good bowling from Broad

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Post by Liam_Main Wed 31 Aug - 18:56

Two new men at the crease here, India won't get over 180
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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 31 Aug - 18:56

smashing us again.. they could walk to 200 playing like this.. painful day again for the young England captain.

Still, the indian fans have paid a lot of money for their train ticket/bus/shoes to follow their team, they deserve some luck.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 18:57

Spin back on with two new batsmen in? I would have given Bresnan an over seen as Indians play the spin so well.

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Post by Liam_Main Wed 31 Aug - 18:57

Trebell why are you always negative about England?

Coming back well here
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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 18:58

Textbook stumping from Kieswetter? Ish.

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Post by Liam_Main Wed 31 Aug - 18:58

Another wicket down!
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 18:58

and another one down, India in danger of running out of batsmen here

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 31 Aug - 18:59

They need it on a day like this, i'm boosting them Liam.

i've retired from tests but am still playing the short form (only t 20's now).

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 19:00

Raina may aswell have done that in the Test series! That was absolutely crunched!

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Post by Liam_Main Wed 31 Aug - 19:00

Ah I see!
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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 31 Aug - 19:02

that was a huge, if these two stay in it'll be big big big. get one and who knows. feel sorry for eng really , genuinly as batting second again lost them this i fear.. India blew it in the test series but they can cope with this form and it shows.

still, you never know.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:06

I like the captaincy again from Broad there. Swann's gone for just two off five balls so he pushes mid-wicket back to the edge of the circle to protect the boundary.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 19:09

Raina is looking very good here. Completely different player to the one we saw in the Test series.

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:09

Raina getting going!

This is getting messy...

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 19:10

Will someone bowl a yorker! I have seen about one attempted yorker all innings!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:11

Bresnan bowling really badly, what's wrong with the odd full delivery?

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:12

JDizzle wrote:Will someone bowl a yorker! I have seen about one attempted yorker all innings!

Well said! It really is ludicrous, whats the most effective ball in in T20? Yorker.

Stop bowling short!

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:14

Dhoni gone

Hales almost dropped it.

Is Jade only going to bowl slower balls?

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:17

Ashwin walked down the pitch and Raina was like hells no!

Raina and Praveen, this could still be 180+

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:18

shocking stuff from England, never got their lengths right on this pitch, needed to be so much fuller it's untrue

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:18

Raina gone

Wrong length again tho. BOWL YORKERS!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:19

ooo look, a full ball and Raina holes out 🤦

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:22

Two full(ish) balls in a row from Bresnan?

Never though full length/yorker length balls would work... 🤦

And now back to short balls... Have our bowlers never played t20 before?

Sky being so biased its untrue

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:25

Slower ball and relatively full length...

Jade bowling well.

165-170ish is way too much for us I fear

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Post by Liam_Main Wed 31 Aug - 19:26

4 for Dernbach and India are all out!
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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:26

165 all out.

Good comeback from Jade. Hussein is the biggest tool going.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:27

And Dernbach wraps it up nicely, England finishing strongly and India finish on 165, considerably less than they looked on for but a fine score none the less

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:28

India would have taken 165 before the start.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:31

yep but they wouldn't have after 11 overs or so. It was pretty clueless batting by their tail I must say...

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:32

True, its a lot of runs tho.

KP to make less than 10

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 19:35

India definitely favourites at halfway stage. Although should have been more than 165. I think I heard the average score at Old Trafford in domestic games this year was 139, so 165 is great!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:39

but you'd have to say JD that England's batting is better than the average team seen at OT this year, whereas I'm not sure the same can be said about India's bowling. Also they're going to have to get through four overs of Raina and Kohli, and that's assuming their four main bowlers fire. I think it's nicely poised, though India are on top

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:40

Englands team is better than average...

However, we do have KP and Bopara so thats not great

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 31 Aug - 19:42

Hales gone second ball!

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:43

What on earth was that from KP?

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:46

KP stands still and manages to hit one...

Praveen looking very good here

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Post by msp83 Wed 31 Aug - 19:47

2 of India's debutants did well, a 38 year old youngster who just proved a point, although there was nothing for him to prove to anyone, and another one who came through by doing the hard yards in first class cricket, and not through the glams of the IPL.
Ravichandran Ashwin, over to you man!.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 31 Aug - 19:49

KP's record is very good in T20 cricket, unlike ODI cricket in the last 2 years! And MFC, true but I think England will struggle withouy any real pace on the ball! Bowlers like Munaf and Praveen will be very hard to get away expecially as England prefer faster bowlers. Then Ashwin will turn the screw in the middle overs aswell.

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Post by msp83 Wed 31 Aug - 19:51

Think Dhoni should have given Ashwin the new ball in place of Vinay.

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Post by msp83 Wed 31 Aug - 19:53

Half an hour of KP, 165 will look a rather small total. Get him early, and we will have a contest.

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Post by msp83 Wed 31 Aug - 19:56

Decent from Praveen so far, Munaf and Vinay too need to keep it tight. Think Ashwin to Kieswetter should be an intereesting contest.

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Post by msp83 Wed 31 Aug - 19:58

Horrendous start from Munaf Patel. Already undid all of PK's early good work.

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Post by Gregers Wed 31 Aug - 19:59

msp83 wrote:Half an hour of KP, 165 will look a rather small total. Get him early, and we will have a contest.

Dont say I have to watch KP impersonate a flamingo for half a bloomin' hour...

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