The golfers' Music Room

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Mac started a really good thread today and while I'm not as fussy about things going off topic as some people, it does seem a shame to drown out Mac's thread with music chat - so I think we'll have a music corner for us golfers (in addition to the forum-wide music section)

I know Kwini is keen on his music, often throwing musical references into his ballwasher topics (I remember one of his last efforts on the old site being entitled The Boys Are Back In Town, and the conversation going off into Thin Lizzy territory!

S_R (on the other thread) made a reference to "hating the Beatles" - discuss!

I actually thought he'd been dead for years Kwini.

It's a miracle he lived to 60, let alone 90.

RIP Cornell, great voice and a great band. I started getting into music in the early 90s, with grunge, and Soundgarden where and still are a real favourite.

beninho wrote:RIP Cornell, great voice and a great band. I started getting into music in the early 90s, with grunge, and Soundgarden where and still are a real favourite.

Yeah, just seen this. Soundgarden weren't really my thing, but he had a fantastic, unique voice and when you look at his overall repertoire, he was clearly a very talented musician. Shame.

Oh dear, had a bit of a "You know you're getting old when...." Saturday at Hyde Park. Pretty close to being my ideal gig day with Stiff Little Fingers, The Damned, The Stranglers and Green Day. (If the Clash and the Pistols could have been thrown in it would've been perfect).
Anyway it was pretty damn good all the same although jumping around to Suspect Device whilst hoards of completely motionless teenagers looked on in bewilderment was a bit disconcerting. Felt it was a shame SLF had the graveyard slot but hey ho Similarly with the Damned who were on straight after. The Stranglers were on a different stage several hours later and after a few beers and some (I have to say really decent festival grub). I made my way up to the Barclaycard Stage. As they powered through a selection of their best tunes, the crowd was completely different, still wide age mix but predominantly nearer my age and a great time was had jumping around. As soon as they were done it was time to hotfoot it back to the main stage for Green Day. Now to be fair they're quite good at getting the audience going. However there is an alarming trend that does my nut in where you get concert zombies, standing there with their phones above their heads trying to record their "awesome day" instead of actually enjoying it. Then there's the whole "stop pushing, we're trying to watch" I'll never figure out the idiocy of people that think they can stand down the front of a crowd of 60000+ people at a punk/new wave/indie gig and don't expect to get barged about a bit.

"concert zombies" lol. I understand the desire to take some photos and video clips but just amazes me how some people choose to watch an entire concert on a tiny phone screen when the real thing is right in front of them.

Indeed Ray, I did take the odd pic, managed to get a selfie with Captain Sensible when I saw him in the crowd. The youngsters didn't recognise him :-p

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the zombies decide to play their "exclusive video" and realise that it's all shakey and the sound quality is horrendous.

Another suicide, linkin park singer. In my late teens / early twenties got a bit into the nu metal music. So its always a shame when someone young dies.

Linkin Park totally bypassed me - or I bypassed them - but never nice to hear a story like that :-(

Bit older than me davie I see, so you were probably not target audience. It was quite polished for what it was mind.

Older but not closed mind Ben .. music is so important to me that I can take any era .. doesn't mean I wasn't aware or Linkin Park .. just not my thing at that particular time

I would say Numb/Encore with Jay Z is worth a listen or re-listen. Its a very good collaboration.

error!

Do adults actually listen to Jay Zed?

Based on the album sales, i would assume so yes.

His name is Jay Z, its not Zed, by the way.

Zed's dead

It's Jay Zed in this country.

Album sales aren't an indication of who listens to it.

I've always considered Jay-Zed being to Hip Hip what One Direction is to pop music, e.g. entry level bubblegum.

super_realist wrote:It's Jay Zed in this country.

Album sales aren't an indication of who listens to it.

I've always considered Jay-Zed being to Hip Hip what One Direction is to pop music, e.g. entry level bubblegum.

So what is an indication to prove your opinion?

I can't prove an opinion Diggers.

I'm simply saying that album sales don't determine who bought it.
Jay Zed might have sold millions, but then so have One Direction but no one would say that was adults music.

What Hip Hop are you into then? If you have a level of Hip Hop acts. So Jay z is entry level, who is next and who is at the top?

"adults music" you sound like my 3 year old son, who says he likes boy music and doesnt want to listen to girl music.

I'm not being condemnatory, I have just never heard anyone who was above 20 talk about Jay Zed with any sort of warmth.

It was actually a genuine question as Jay Zed simply seems the commercial face of it, and such acts are rarely thought of as being terribly credible.

I am assuming Aberdeen is not a cultural mixing pot. I would also assume its not the sort of music played in and around St Andrews. Just because you do not hand around with people that like or listen to Jay Z does not mean he is not a massively successful artist who has sold millions. If you know nowt about HIp Hop then why get involved in a conversation?

super_realist wrote:I can't prove an opinion Diggers.


Jay Zed might have sold millions, but then so have One Direction but no one would say that was adults music.

Which is just another opinion.

Re. Bennington, a shame. Never bought into Linkin Park as always thought they were a contrived, put-together band with a lot of marketing, but saw them at Download a few years back and to be fair, they were excellent. Limp Bizkit and to some extent Papa Roach were doing the rap-rock thing earlier.
He certainly had a big voice and clearly had his demons.

I once saw Jay Zed live and he was shocking. Worst performance I've ever seen, I wasn't a fan to begin with but after watching poor songs poorly performed I went off him even more.

beninho wrote:I am assuming Aberdeen is not a cultural mixing pot. I would also assume its not the sort of music played in and around St Andrews. Just because you do not hand around with people that like or listen to Jay Z does not mean he is not a massively successful artist who has sold millions. If you know nowt about HIp Hop then why get involved in a conversation?

Why would Aberdeen not be a cultural mixing pot? It's almost certainly more cosmopolitan in terms of demographics than most English cities.

I know plenty about hip hip (or rather used to, long before all the generic rubbish that came around the Biggie/Tupac era and since), not just the bubblegum commercial stuff which is usually looked down upon like Jay Zed.

Jay Zed is to hip hop what Steps is to music. In fact, probably more like Mark Morrison in terms of being a complete characature.

Went to see The Dropkick Murphys few weeks ago.
They were very good.

Only went as one of the guys couldn't make it.
Was a small venue, they brought fans on stage and had time for a few pics after.

super_realist wrote:

beninho wrote:I am assuming Aberdeen is not a cultural mixing pot. I would also assume its not the sort of music played in and around St Andrews. Just because you do not hand around with people that like or listen to Jay Z does not mean he is not a massively successful artist who has sold millions. If you know nowt about HIp Hop then why get involved in a conversation?

Why would Aberdeen not be a cultural mixing pot? It's almost certainly more cosmopolitan in terms of demographics than most English cities.

I know plenty about hip hip (or rather used to, long before all the generic rubbish that came around the Biggie/Tupac era and since), not just the bubblegum commercial stuff which is usually looked down upon like Jay Zed.

Jay Zed is to hip hop what Steps is to music. In fact, probably more like Mark Morrison in terms of being a complete characature.

Aberdeen is 91.9% white as per the 2011 census. Its clearly not a cultural mixing pot.

I have asked for your ranks on hip hop acts. I dont understand the point you are making. I am assuming its because he is rich and successful.

So if it's 92% white it can't be a cultural mixing pot? Do you per se have to have 20% pakistanis to qualify?

My guess would be, without knowing it, that there are more different nationalities in Aberdeen than in similarly sized English cities.

I can only compare it to where I live, which is 60% white, 52% white British. I would deem it as culturally diverse. An area of 92% white I would deem as lquite considerably less culturally diverse. Though the population in my london boriugh is more then Aberdeen.

Stories starting to circulate here that Tom Petty was rushed to hospital in cardiac arrest.
Not good. Heartbreak for some.

You're wasted on here Kwini.

RIP
My b-in-law has done some work with him on private gigs, so that little earner is over.

Petty cash?

Johnny's brother?

Some uncertainty now as to whether or not he's a goner - I saw two attributable sources before RIP'ing him.
Reminds me of an old Ashton, Gardner & Dyke song - Resurrection Shuffle.

They thought it was all over. It is now.
Just when people were saying he could walk right up to the gates of hell, but he wouldn't back down.

Recently discovered these guys. Mad fusion of metal, country and rockabilly at times.
I'm an inherent cynic, one of my weaker points, but this song is just so upbeat. Maybe it's the wine I'm drinking, but simply fantastic....

Spoiler:

It's certainly "anthemy" Navy. Not a bad tune.

I would reapply the cynicism.

Diggers wrote:It's certainly "anthemy" Navy. Not a bad tune.

True. They've got better tunes in their catalogue, but I liked the positive lyrics.

McLaren wrote:I would reapply the cynicism.

Typical. But then, it's all opinion and I'll take mine over yours this time .

How does this grab you Navy? Thuderstruck by Steven'n'Seagulls

I'm never wrong wrote:How does this grab you Navy? Thuderstruck by Steven'n'Seagulls

Excellent. Funny thing is, if I'd come across this w/o knowing the AC/DC original, I probably wouldn't have noticed. Some talent there. Had a look at their cover of Metallica's 'Nothing Else Matters' as well - pretty cool. Like their comic attitude as well.

Well at least it's not Ed Bloody Sheeran.

If U2 are garbage dadrock, then Sheeran is housewiverock. Turgid awfulness.

Sheerannis annoying as he's all over the place, can't believe he popped up in Thrones, bit sad.
That said, he's done 3 or 4 songs that I enjoy listening to, that's more than most singers or bands have done. That must make me a turgid housewife I guess.

I quite like shape of you. Though it was my housewife 3 year old soon who kept asking alexa for it.

I'm never wrong wrote:How does this grab you Navy? Thuderstruck by Steven'n'Seagulls

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Watching the Classico, Ronaldo just had a complete air shot from a simple pass. Nice to see even one of the very best can look like a complete arse at times!

Although if your average sunday league fatty did that they would probably tear a hamstring.