The golfers' Music Room

beninho wrote:Ryan Adams is an American singer songwriter. I thought he may be up your street after listening to some of your songs,  no need to get narky about a genuine recommendation.

Music is all personal taste, whether its pop, rock, dance, quirky indie, its an individual choice. I'm pretty eclectic and can accept a good pop tune like Calvin Harris. I don't think people should feel they have better taste because its what they like.

I love music, just so out of touch with most current or new bands I rely on alexa to play all my old favourites.

super_realist wrote:I absolutely despise U2 Mac.
Bono is one of the most annoying celebrities in the entire world and The Edge (who has the second saddest, second most pathetic name in the world after Bono) is one of the most bland, least imaginative guitarists in history. Makes Status Quo look like Jimmy Page.

Roller_Coaster wrote:Absolute bell ends can make good music though, you (and I mean we) just have to work past that particular prejudice and don't let blind hatred get in the way of appreciation.

Nothing to do with me but our eldest (12) loves all the modern cr@p  (ignore my above point for a minute!   ) you'd expect her to, but still likes and sings along to Abba, the Eagles, New Order, The Jam, Elvis, Guns n Roses, Amy Winehouse etc etc etc. Pretty proud of her for being so eclectic already.

beninho wrote:You don't have to like someone to enjoy the music. Bono may be a prik but its hard to say every u2 song is awful.

super_realist wrote:

beninho wrote:You don't have to like someone to enjoy the music. Bono may be a prik but its hard to say every u2 song is awful.

I used to like a few songs as a young child, but I can't stand the sound of them now, they're like a bagpipe to me, an incessant drone,  most of their songs are pretty similar and they've barely moved on in 35 years. Same dreary guitar, same cat wailing from Bono and quasi political nonsense lyrics. They are the very epitomy of dad-rock, the equivalent of a Ford Mondeo, 3 bed semi, etc. Middle of the road, safe, boring, cliched muzak.

Blandness is  the biggest crime you can do against music and they are among the worst offenders for that (in my opinion). Not being a music snob, just how I see U2 and plenty other bands. Can't fault the formula for lining your pockets, but musically, they just don't appeal to me.  They're probably like a lot of bands in that they start off quite well, but as they get more money and fame but as they lose "the edge"that made them good in the first place, they become more bland and boring. Can't really think of a band this hasn't happened to, unless it's a band that broke up before the 3rd album was made.

Bill Bailey does a good parody of how repetitive they are.

Davie wrote:I'm no fan of U2 either - but Super's description of them pretty much summed up what I thought of his playlist

I'm never wrong wrote:Read a joke years ago. Bono comes on stage and does a slow hand clap. He then says “Every time I clap, it means some poor soul in Africa dies”. A wag from the crowd shouts out “Stop clapping then”.
(I thought it was funny).

Diggers wrote:

I'm never wrong wrote:Read a joke years ago. Bono comes on stage and does a slow hand clap. He then says “Every time I clap, it means some poor soul in Africa dies”. A wag from the crowd shouts out “Stop clapping then”.
(I thought it was funny).

There is actually a video clip showing this, only question is whether the volume Cecil’s dubbed in. Seriously hope it’s not an urban myth as very funny.

Davie wrote:That's at least 3 times now you've used the expression "dad rock" - you'll be old one day too. For those of us of a certain age "dad rock" is the real rock - not the shoe-gazing, navel contemplating cr@p you've posted. Just another example of you using inflammatory terminology to get a reaction - and yes, I've bitten

Davie wrote:Oh yeah ... grandad rock .. that's even worse. I'm talking about bands even older that Dire Straits. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's cr@p. I must fit into the great-grandad rock category by now

Davie wrote:That's at least 3 times now you've used the expression "dad rock" - you'll be old one day too. For those of us of a certain age "dad rock" is the real rock - not the shoe-gazing, navel contemplating cr@p you've posted. Just another example of you using inflammatory terminology to get a reaction - and yes, I've bitten

beninho wrote:Its not the limit, but thanks for the advice.

Do you like the beatles?

I listened to alice in chains dirt on my way to work. Its a masterpiece of 90s rock topped off with would being a sublime song

beninho wrote:Big for your boots & shut up by Stormzy are good tracks. I like a bit of rap, I heard n........ in paris by jay z and kanye recently and really like that, its pretty old though. Kanye was so good at times.

super_realist wrote:Listen, I was asked if I like The Beatles, and in general, I don't, because I like fewer songs than songs I don't like, I prefer far more of the songs by other people of the same era as a % of their back catalogue.

It seems that admitting you don't like The Beatles is like some sort of heresy, much like saying you don't like Tarantino films, which in general I don't either.

Whether something is popular or not, is no guarantee of quality. Look at One Direction or any of the Cowell format stuff.

Davie wrote:Thanks for your insightful reply NBS

raycastleunited wrote:

beninho wrote:Big for your boots & shut up by Stormzy are good tracks. I like a bit of rap, I heard n........ in paris by jay z and kanye recently and really like that, its pretty old though. Kanye was so good at times.

Saw jay z live, he was dreadful, easily worst live performance I've ever seen. Although he is in good company, as allegedly Bob Dylan was / is pretty poor live.

When it comes to live performances, you have to give it to U2, they really can put on a show, Coldplay too. I once saw a seating plan for a U2 concert where the different sections were highlighted, e.g. dad's in cargo shorts. It was quite funny.

beninho wrote:

raycastleunited wrote:

beninho wrote:Big for your boots & shut up by Stormzy are good tracks. I like a bit of rap, I heard n........ in paris by jay z and kanye recently and really like that, its pretty old though. Kanye was so good at times.

Saw jay z live, he was dreadful, easily worst live performance I've ever seen. Although he is in good company, as allegedly Bob Dylan was / is pretty poor live.

When it comes to live performances, you have to give it to U2, they really can put on a show, Coldplay too. I once saw a seating plan for a U2 concert where the different sections were highlighted, e.g. dad's in cargo shorts. It was quite funny.

I have seen u2 twice, the wife is more of a fan then I am, and they do put on a good show. I saw the Foos play at Wembley, and it was immense. Dave Grohl is a Rock N Roll god in my eyes.

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super_realist wrote:Of course, it's opinion, and it's my opinion that One Direction are rubbish, that doesn't make me a music snob. I'm sure there's plenty stuff I like which people would think was rubbish, or even embarrassing, and they've got every right to call it rubbish too, but that wouldn't make them music snobs either.

For example, I cannot stand the music of Elton John, but I'll happily admit to loving the song Rocket Man, I can't stand Bob Dylan, he's perhaps the worst singer in the history of music, but it doesn't make me a music snob to say that. Surely I'd be more of a music snob if I pretended to like something (like Dylan or The Beatles) when I don't, just because you are "supposed" to like certain acts.

It's not music snobbery to say the Beatles did some terrible songs, Octopus's Garden is wretched for a start, while Lennon and McCartney have written such excrement as Imagine and The Frog Chorus. I thought Ed whatever his name is (that ginger chap) was a novelty act when I first heard his music. Doesn't make me a music snob to claim it's rubbish (to me)

Fair enough, I'm not a pre pubescent teen, so One Direction are  not marketed at me (and let's be honest, anything that comes out of Cowell, is less about the music and more about the marketing, but it's my opinion that their music is rubbish, just as I think Stormzy is rubbish. I'm not claiming it as fact, I'm stating an opinion.


It's your political opinion that Brexit is rubbish (so do I) but it doesn't make you a political snob to make that claim. So if you can make that claim about something, then why can't I make it about music?

super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?

Diggers wrote:The Stones may have written a few good songs but have written some absolute stinkers.
The Kinks may  have ...
The Who...
Hmm, look what happens when you stay together fir a long time. It’s just an opinion, it’s purely opinion as to what constitutes a stinker or indeed a good song.
In the court of popular opinion the Beatles clearly wrote a lot of good songs. There are probably 4 or 5 Beatles songs in my top 50, funnily enough most of them written by George Harrison.