Billy Conn the reason why Louis can never be no1.

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Staggered off a 170lb light-heavyweight.....outboxed by a guy who basically admitted all he did was circle the ring and punch straight with no roundhouses...Kind of an indictment really considering Dempsey, Ali, Frazier etc all demolished the great 175ers of their day!!!!

Louis is a strange phenomenon on here..otherwise intelligent people (who I respect) seem to throw logic out the window!! For such a great champion, and he was bless him, he never really beat anybody....However Mayweather, Calzaghe's records are abused by the same guys who have Louis a thin piece of paper away from the greatest Ali...The same guys who pooh pooh longevity as a yardstick usually...

Always said the best guys he fought were Walcott, Marciano and Charles.....Lost to them all (Walcott got ripped off in the 1st fight)...Although Louis was way past his best but he still lost!!!!

We'll leave schmelling out of it.. anyone can lose a fight......

Think being mastered by a light heavy in your pomp before the guy took liberties and let you set him up..... probably should be the reason Louis never gets any higher than second!!! and rightly so...

Boom. Game Over. I have Louis number 2, i don't hold the Conn loss against him personally as you could find faults in anybody, but i think Ali deserves it overall. I have no problems with anyone wishing to have Joe top. He was pretty flat footed so there was always a chance for him to be outboxed in the style Conn did.

Erm, sorry to nit pick but he KO'd Conn. No loss.

You're right, i meant fight.

Was Louis really being outboxed for 12 rounds or was it a fight that was still very much in the balance and yes getting knocked down by Cooper is far worse than being behind on the scorecards to a genuinely great light heavyweight, do you for instance mark Holmes down for losing to Spinks?

No because Holmes was past it..Louis wasn't..

Like you Ghosty but you're getting owned Son.

Getting owned in what way Truss, disputing your fairly fickle point?

Putting out there is a similarity between Holmes-Spinks and prime Louis v Conn....