The Thug list.

by **Biltong** Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:44 am

Seeing that the world cup is about to begin and I would much rather discuss rugby than harp on about foul play incidents that occured in the heat of the battle, i thought it would be prudent set up an article specifically for this purpose.

So it would be good if anyone that has a rant about any specific player, and after many years of therapy has not been able to get over it, you can place your rant and hatred for such a player on here.

This would hopefully keep the board clean for proper rugby debate.

See this as your RECYCLE BIN, perhaps you will get over yourself and the incident in question.

So what i'll do is to start things off.

Bakkies Botha,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-DQ29ycLkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CM-_JlG64&NR=1

Schalk Burger,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9KuQVvmoqc

Matt Giteau,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoh9NpWBAZc&feature=related

Sergio Parisse,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_MUIFrwWXQ&feature=related

Matt Banahan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNv_33Q1eco&feature=related

Brad Thorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZchPz1xQII

I am sure there are many others, so put them on here, let everyone rant as much as they want.

by Bullsbok Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:51 am

splendid idea biltong !the whole "players should wear masks " everytime a Bok was mentioned was getting rather tedious

by **Notch** Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:53 am

No thread with the word 'Thug' in the title would be complete without Jamie Cudmore;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp5W_cwNnPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oli4colkDvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIoTtqBRiqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJnU_OdGpw&feature=related

The guy is some kind of psycho or something!

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:57 am

I hope this works Biltong, but I fear it won't!

by Cymroglan Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:05 pm

It does not matter what country a player is from if he is a gouger then he should never ever be allowed to forget that fact.
We need to eradicate this cowardly act from our game and we as fans need to make players aware that it's totally unacceptable.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:10 pm

Cymroglan wrote:It does not matter what country a player is from if he is a gouger then he should never ever be allowed to forget that fact.
We need to eradicate this cowardly act from our game and we as fans need to make players aware that it's totally unacceptable.

Couldn't agree more. So adding to the "name and shame" list (and ignoring those already mentioned)
Richard Loe
Sergio Parisse
Dupuy and the other French bloke from the same match
Johan Le Roux (ear biting rather than gouging but still ... )

by Dr Kenneth Noisewater Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:12 pm

Slightly off topic, but Bakkies's sister. Seems as much, if not more, of a mentalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG1gNafNgsA

OK - not the actual sister of Bakkies - but nuts all the same.

by OzT Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:17 pm

Only current players??

If not can I add Justin Harrison to the list please? the only wallaby player I think who is an out and out thug

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:18 pm

Danny Grewcock deserves a mention here. Just as he deserved more yellow cards than he got.

by OzT Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:18 pm

Dr Kenneth Noisewater wrote:Slightly off topic, but Bakkies's sister. Seems as much, if not more, of a mentalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG1gNafNgsA

Holly smokes!!!! Shocked

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:18 pm

OzT wrote:Only current players??

If not can I add Justin Harrison to the list please? the only wallaby player I think who is an out and out thug

I named Richard Loe. And I'd like to add Robin Brooke (a thug both on and off the field) and Troy Flavell to the list.

by **Biltong** Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:22 pm

Dr Kenneth Noisewater wrote:Slightly off topic, but Bakkies's sister. Seems as much, if not more, of a mentalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG1gNafNgsA

If that is his sister, I wonder how the hell she ended up playing football. That looks like a professional woman football league.

by Dr Kenneth Noisewater Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:25 pm

biltongbek wrote:
Dr Kenneth Noisewater wrote:Slightly off topic, but Bakkies's sister. Seems as much, if not more, of a mentalist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG1gNafNgsA

If that is his sister, I wonder how the hell she ended up playing football. That looks like a professional woman football league.

Correct Biltong, the lass in question is a septic. I took the title on face value. Apologies for the schoolboy error. Post now edited.

She's still a Scary Mary though Erm

by OzT Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:25 pm

Richard Loe seems a thug and very hard man, whilst Robin seems to be more a bully.

Woudl you reckon that's about right?

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:30 pm

OzT wrote:Richard Loe seems a thug and very hard man, whilst Robin seems to be more a bully.

Woudl you reckon that's about right?

Pretty much. Brooke's definitely a cheap-shot merchant - Merhtens, Mehrt's sister, MacDonald, that girl in Fiji, ... .

Though Loe had his cheap-shot moments - Paul Carozza's nose, and the gouge on Greg Cooper. He's not a bad columnist nowadays mind - I wonder if there was a bit of living up to being "Griz Wyllie's son-in-law" at times.

by Dr Kenneth Noisewater Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:31 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0gDO0txxvQ

Kobus Wiese anyone?

by OzT Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:33 pm

Dr Kenneth Noisewater wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0gDO0txxvQ

Kobus Wiese anyone?

Remember that being brought up here couple of weeks ago... was a rather cheap shot though

by Dr Kenneth Noisewater Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:35 pm

Duncan McRae.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:45 pm

Who was the Mpumalanga lock who did Dodie Weir's knee in on the Lions tour of 1997? He didn't even get penalised during the match as I recall it.

by Dr Kenneth Noisewater Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:57 pm

luckless_pedestrian wrote:Who was the Mpumalanga lock who did Dodie Weir's knee in on the Lions tour of 1997? He didn't even get penalised during the match as I recall it.

Marius Bosman

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:00 pm

That's the fecker.

by Effervescing Elephant Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:03 pm

Talking about cheap shots, did anyone watch Bradford v Wigan in May this year? Just as a Wigan player was diving over the line to score a Bradford player actually punched him in the head and the lad scored whilst unconscious. Brutal stuff.

http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/match_report/0,19936,11070_3401232,00.html

by OzT Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:10 pm

The cheap shot I always remembers, mainly cause it had no effect, was 99 RWC NZ vs England, when Lomu scored a try and was getting up when Dallaglio smacked him as he was going coming back.

Lomu just looked at him and walked back up to the half way line. I thought then, geeze, that's a tough guy, Lawrence's not a small dude!

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:12 pm

Dalollipop went in with his knee, didn't he? Seemed a bit unnecessary when the try had already been scored.

by GLove39 Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:17 pm

Quade Cooper...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-YwahCXKzE

by disneychilly Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:23 pm

The rest of the ABs jumped in for Lomu ha. He just let them scrap while he was strutting back to halfway.

Martin Johnson was no angel, though more niggle than outright thuggery.

I was at the game in 94 where Le Roux bit Fitzpatrick. TV didn't see Fitzy holding the guy down and mashing his head into the dirt a few seconds beforehand lol.

by beshocked Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:29 pm

Olivier Azam - one of the dirtiest players around.

Kicking Steve Borthwick in the face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYPSIQh-d58

by OzT Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:36 pm

Well from all these vids, it seems poor ole O'Driscol is the victim of the most cheap shots!

by flankertye Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:37 pm

What on earth is Coopers problem with McCaw! Remember he pushed his head after he scored a try?

by cabbagesandbrussels Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:38 pm

corne krige deserves a special mention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJXTCnTGwVs

by OzT Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:40 pm

flankertye wrote:What on earth is Coopers problem with McCaw! Remember he pushed his head after he scored a try?

Lights torch paper...

Probably cause like other non ABs, dislike the way he lies too often on the wrong side plus various infringements...

and run!!!

Run

by cabbagesandbrussels Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:40 pm

kobus wiese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0gDO0txxvQ

by cabbagesandbrussels Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:44 pm

There seems to be a South Africa theme developing!

by **Biltong** Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:45 pm

Look at this for an unfair penalty.

Schalk Burger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VvWYWAF4h4&NR=1

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:45 pm

cabbagesandbrussels wrote:There seems to be a South Africa theme developing!

Not really.

by **Biltong** Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:46 pm

cabbagesandbrussels wrote:There seems to be a South Africa theme developing!

Yeah, if you only search South African names. Doh

by cabbagesandbrussels Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:49 pm

Botha is really f*cked in the head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v3yyuCUpis&feature=related

by flankertye Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:51 pm

That damm Quade Cooper, attacking poor innocent equipment... Whistle

by cabbagesandbrussels Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:51 pm

biltongbek wrote:
cabbagesandbrussels wrote:There seems to be a South Africa theme developing!

Yeah, if you only search South African names.

In fairness, you don't have to look hard for South African thuggery...

by munkian Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:52 pm

Tana Umaga and Keven Mealamu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXJyDHFKn0

by flankertye Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:53 pm

Sorry, forgot the link! https://youtu.be/T1-Wla92vaA

by beshocked Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:01 pm

Kevin Mealamu headbutting Lewis Moody:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yE2Ky0awsA

by **Biltong** Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:03 pm

Martin johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VvWYWAF4h4&NR=1

by cabbagesandbrussels Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:03 pm

How the hell are Kevin Mealamu & Bakkies Botha still allowed to play rugby?

They are animals.

by cabbagesandbrussels Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:05 pm

biltongbek wrote:Martin johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VvWYWAF4h4&NR=1

eh? that clip involves Carlos Spencer and Burger...

although I did have to laugh at the first comment on youtube!

by beshocked Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:06 pm

Surprised the Munster fans haven't mentioned the hand of Back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQlJ8K7XjQc

by disneychilly Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:06 pm

Thug? Cooper's more of a p***y. He's probably trying to hurt people, really, but I doubt he does too much damage. Though it's a good thing he's one of the smallest players on the field as someone Botha's size could do some real damage. Imagine McCaw if that was Bakkies' knee?! Concussed out of the first few games!

by Pot Hale Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:14 pm

Brian O'Driscoll for his no-arm thug tackle on poor Dannie Roussouw in the second Lions test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCVCXiVecl4&feature=related

Ronan O'Gara for leaping into Morne Steyn's face without any attempt to catch the ball in the same test.

John Hayes for his red card incident on some poor Leinster player.

Paul O'Connell for elbowing some poor Welsh fella, Thomas, in the face.

Shane Jennings for gouging.

Alan Quinlan for ....... being Alan Quinlan.

by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:15 pm

Arwel Thomas, for punching Christophe Lamaison.

by **Biltong** Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:22 pm

25 March Lawrence Daglallio cited for punching an opponent.

22 Feb 2002, Martin johnson banned for 3 weeks for punching

28 Dec 2000, Martin Johnson banned for 35 days for three counts of foul play, kneeing, punching, stamping

10 Sept 2007, Phil vickery Banned for 2 matches for kicking.

13 Feb 2009, Martin Corry found guilty of unintentional contact with the eye, 6 weeks ban

19 April 2005, Martin corry banned for three weeks for elbow to the face of Richard Hill.

You see how easy it is to find examples of thuggery these days.

You just pick a rugby players name, add banned to google search and bob's your uncle, all the thuggery you could feed off.

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