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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

Well the weather laid waste to play yesterday. Other outdoor courts will be used.

On Arthur Ashe in the afternoon session is:
Muller v Nadal
Djokovic v Tipsarevic

On Louis Armstrong
Ferrer v Roddick

On Grandstand
Murray v Young
Isner v Simon

Night Session
Federer v Tsonga

Now will the organisers consider a Monday final?

Look at it this way. The winners of the 4th round today would have to play again tomorrow. Then the semi's on Saturday as well as the final on Sunday.

The US Organisers really need to look at their schedules for the future.

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Post by Tenez Wed 07 Sep 2011, 9:05 am

legendkillar wrote:The US Organisers really need to look at their schedules for the future.

To me it's clearly the worst slam by a long margin. For the last 4 years the player playing first the semi won the final. Only Federer beating Davydenko in 3 sets in 2007 reversed the trend.

You woudl think they would start the eve session at 6pm instead of 7pm...but no...better deprive the spectators AND CBS of an extra match than argue against CBS itself. Whistle

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Post by socal1976 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:39 am

All I can say is please god let Novak play in the first semi.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:55 am

socal1976 wrote:All I can say is please god let Novak play in the first semi.
Won't make a difference mate as he is too good for anybody right now, only way he can lose to someone on the other side of the draw is by making unforced errors galore, and that rarely happens anymore. To be honest right now Tsonga is more of a threat to him than Federer or Nadal, a game between them would be quite close just like the other three times they played in bo5.
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Post by Danny_1982 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 12:24 pm

Yeah Djoko is the massive favourite now, especially now Nadal and Murray (his most likely final opponents) will have such a congested schedule.

That's assuming Djokovic doesn't have any further issues with his shoulder...

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Post by Danny_1982 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 12:27 pm

Although, in light of the congested schedule I'm hoping that Djokovic will be in the second semi final...

4 matches in 5 days for Nadal/Murray PLUS less recovery time for the final would seem a little unfair. And though we all may want different people to win, we surely all want a competetive and entertaining final.

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Post by sportslover Wed 07 Sep 2011, 12:39 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:Yeah Djoko is the massive favourite now, especially now Nadal and Murray (his most likely final opponents) will have such a congested schedule.

That's assuming Djokovic doesn't have any further issues with his shoulder...

Shoulder looks fine, wonder what was wrong with it.....!

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Post by Faust Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:07 pm

Sunday final 10%
Monday final 60%
Tuesday?! final 30%

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:14 pm

Faust, isn't it supposed to rain bad today/thursday?

I'd love a Monday or TUesday final myself.
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Post by Faust Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:39 pm

Tenez wrote:
legendkillar wrote:The US Organisers really need to look at their schedules for the future.

To me it's clearly the worst slam by a long margin. For the last 4 years the player playing first the semi won the final. Only Federer beating Davydenko in 3 sets in 2007 reversed the trend.

You woudl think they would start the eve session at 6pm instead of 7pm...but no...better deprive the spectators AND CBS of an extra match than argue against CBS itself. Whistle

Tenez,

Sampras beat Agassi in three finals
after playing the "night" semifinal.
In the original "Super Saturday"
the second semifinal followed the womens
final.

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Post by Faust Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:42 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Faust, isn't it supposed to rain bad today/thursday?

I'd love a Monday or TUesday final myself.


Weather Josiah bad today worst tomorrow

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Post by Danny_1982 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:44 pm

They should put it back to Monday now. If the whole draw was behind then fine, cramming everyone in would not disadvantage anyone as they'd all be in the same boat.

But at the moment half the mens draw is a round behind schedule. Surely the number one priority for the open is to ensure that the quality is high, which is less likely with one half of the draw a round behind.

I know commercially they probably want their super Saturday, but it would be a shame if the quality of the competition was sacrificed because of it.

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Post by Tenez Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:59 pm

[quote="Faust"]
Tenez wrote:
Tenez,

Sampras beat Agassi in three finals
after playing the "night" semifinal.
In the original "Super Saturday"
the second semifinal followed the womens
final.

True? Good on him. Agassi was a nervous player with a bad record in finals.

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Post by bogbrush Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:06 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:They should put it back to Monday now. If the whole draw was behind then fine, cramming everyone in would not disadvantage anyone as they'd all be in the same boat.

But at the moment half the mens draw is a round behind schedule. Surely the number one priority for the open is to ensure that the quality is high, which is less likely with one half of the draw a round behind.

I know commercially they probably want their super Saturday, but it would be a shame if the quality of the competition was sacrificed because of it.

You actually think that matters?

Anyway, being completely biased I'm hoping for a good day today (and Fed wins)

Clear Friday (so Murray/Nadal play their quarters)

Super Saturday (Fed on first and wins)

Sunday final.

Hell, he keeps getting 2nd semi anyway, so about time he got the breaks.
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Post by Danny_1982 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:32 pm

No I don't think it will matter. I think it should though.

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Post by Faust Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:32 pm

http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/108670.html

Is he right? Or is he ....right?

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:34 pm

What time is Murray due to play guys?

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Post by liverbnz Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:37 pm

Y I Man wrote:What time is Murray due to play guys?

4pm, our time.

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:39 pm

Cheers. Mrs YI is a big Murray fan she wants to watch it.

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Post by Liam_Main Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:43 pm

Some good matches to be played today, will be tuning in.
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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 3:22 pm

I hope there isn't a drop of rain.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:01 pm

legendkillar wrote:I hope there isn't a drop of rain.

too late, matches delayed already

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:42 pm

Liam_Main wrote:Some good matches to be played today, will be tuning in.
Unlucky then Very Happy
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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:45 pm

Just so disheartening seeing a slam so poor at organisation.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:48 pm

They should construct some drain holes on the courts, saves them wasting 45 mns to dry it.
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Post by barrystar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:53 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:They should construct some drain holes on the courts, saves them wasting 45 mns to dry it.

For all the bad things that can be said about the USO, that maybe an over-simplistic criticism.
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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:22 pm

Here we go. The players are out.

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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:26 pm

Well apart from Donald Young. Not sure what he is playing at.

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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:31 pm

Boris Becker asked for a prediction and spent 2 minutes waffling and never gave one.

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:31 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:They should construct some drain holes on the courts, saves them wasting 45 mns to dry it.
They would have to slope the court for that to work - a 5% slope should work.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:47 pm

raining again, boo Crying or Very sad

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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:54 pm

This beyond a joke. Rain forecasted all weekend.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:56 pm

legendkillar wrote:This beyond a joke. Rain forecasted all weekend.

someone should tell them to build a roof...

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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:58 pm

I can't blame them for the weather MFC. They do have indoor courts. They could use them.

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:00 pm

Apparently they don't use covers at the US Open - so it takes longer for the courts to dry once the rain stops. Nadal was complaining about the lines being slippy.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:01 pm

nope but the stupid scheduling doesn't help, it's so heavily weighted towards the back-end that as soon as you get any rain it becomes incredibly congested. Having R1 matches on wednesday is ludicrous!

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:06 pm

Nadal was complaining
Never in doubt, you could make his side of the court half the size of his opponents and he would still find something..!
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Post by barrystar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:11 pm

Odd that Muller broke Nadal's 1st service game to lead 3-0 before the rain stopped play - last year Nadal was all but unbreakable at USO.

I'd expect Nadal to claw that back on any basis, but the further short delay maybe a good opportunity for him to re-group quicker than he might have done with Uncle Tony's help.
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Post by Tenez Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:41 pm

This Gilles is such a talent. I remember he knocked Roddick off this same tournament a few years ago when Roddick was still a force. He certainly gave nadal a very hard time at Wimbledon too.

Great LH! Nadal i sprobably very worried. Shame I missed the first games.

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Post by Faust Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:45 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:nope but the stupid scheduling doesn't help, it's so heavily weighted towards the back-end that as soon as you get any rain it becomes incredibly congested. Having R1 matches on wednesday is ludicrous!

Right on!!!

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 7:02 pm

The forecast is for rain though to Saturday - clearing up Sunday:
http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/New+York+NY+10007

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Post by Faust Wed 07 Sep 2011, 7:14 pm

There is a good chance that all three curent
score leaders will be the losers when the games are over
later today,tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.[code]

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:25 pm

I have been working today so missed what little play there was. Apparently Nadal, Murray and Roddick were so unhappy at their treatment they visited the referees office.
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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:38 pm

The night matches are off.

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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:40 pm

I am speechless. The fact the courts are left open to the brunt of mother nature is shocking. Court covers are a must.

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:41 pm

It beggars belief that they do not have covers. Surely they would have learned that lesson?

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:42 pm

legendkillar wrote:The night matches are off.

Does that mean that they will attempt to finish the day matches at night?

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:44 pm

emancipator wrote:
legendkillar wrote:The night matches are off.

Does that mean that they will attempt to finish the day matches at night?

I would have thought so. I mean they have to use every avenue possible to get these matches completed today.
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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:45 pm

The reason is that they don't look 'stylish' I can't work that one out.

Apparently Nadal, Roddick, Murray had a whinge at the match referee because it was 'spitting' and the back of the courts were wet. Nadal has claimed that they players weren't treated properly and their safety was not considered.

A bit much I think. I understand the players concerns, but a tad bit dramatic.

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Post by legendkillar Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:46 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
emancipator wrote:
legendkillar wrote:The night matches are off.

Does that mean that they will attempt to finish the day matches at night?

I would have thought so. I mean they have to use every avenue possible to get these matches completed today.

I think they are anticipating further rain. I think it will be a stop start kinda thing.

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