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Post by Fists of Fury Sat 10 Sep 2011, 5:21 pm

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Evening guys

Here is the thread to discuss all of tonight's action as it unfolds, in what promises to be a very entertaining night of boxing.

Feel free to post any early predictions.

Mine are: Frampton TKO7, McCloskey UD, Vitali KO8.

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I'm a bit surprised to see so many Poles over there I thought they were all over here!!!
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Post by hogey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:05 pm

Glad to see there still a few Poles left in Poland Very Happy

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:05 pm

When was maidens last stoppage bar Ortiz quitting. Maidana is just as overated
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Post by Guest Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

prettyboykev wrote:I think Adamek could be in for a beating here Vitali looks mean as hell.

Agreed, I don't think it's going to last long!

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:08 pm

Victor Cayo about a year and a half ago.
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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:09 pm

Thought McClosky was lucky there. I had Prescott winning 115-113. The crowd probably won him that fight. He done well to pick it up in the last 4 rounds. Don't think Adamek stands a chance

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Post by Strongback Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:12 pm

McCloskey didn't know where he was at the end of the 12th.

Roll on Vitali. I just hope Adamek can ask a few questions and make it a proper fight.

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Post by hogey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:15 pm

Bloody hell it looks like heavyweight against a middleweight, early night on the cards here

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Post by Fists of Fury Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:22 pm

Fantastic stadium, first of all.

Vitalis right hand is an absolute sledge hammer. Adamek/Haye just too small for these behemoths. Truly awesome specimens.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:24 pm

Adamek seems to turn to rubber every time he gets hit
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Post by Strongback Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:28 pm

Vitali's starting to blow. If Adamek can keep the pace up it'll be interesting.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:29 pm

Such a pointless fight.

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Post by hogey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:29 pm

Vitali is so far ahead of the other Heavies for me i cant see how any of the current crop of stiffs have a hope against him. Wladimir at least is chinny so they have a punchers chance against him, Vitali looks to have no real weaknesses. Wladimir is a very lucky boy that old mother Klitschko wont let his big brother knock him out.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:31 pm

Adamek's not a heavy though is he? He's a guy who lost to a guy who lost to a guy who Froch beat!

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Post by Scottrf Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:33 pm

That'll do.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:36 pm

This is just not even fun to watch.

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Post by Dominic Dicoco Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:37 pm

I don't want to see any more of these fights. Lets have two real heavies fighting.


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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

This has got to be stopped soon.


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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

Adamek's corner are saying to him: "Just do what Byrd did!"

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Post by Scottrf Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:40 pm

Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

Vitali's good, and he's not afraid to mix it up, but fighting guys like Adamek proves nothing.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:40 pm

Unfortunately there's not a lot else.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:41 pm

Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

George Foreman feels that it would take a guy like Marciano or Frazier to beat either K bro. He feels they have the mentality and more importantly chin to take their shots and dish their own out.
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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 pm

Dominic Dicoco wrote:I don't want to see any more of these fights. Lets have two real heavies fighting.

When you find a half decent one who is on vitalis level, give me a shout sure.
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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:42 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

George Foreman feels that it would take a guy like Marciano or Frazier to beat either K bro. He feels they have the mentality and more importantly chin to take their shots and dish their own out.

Foreman also named all five of his sons George. I'd take his opinion with a pinch of salt.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:43 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

George Foreman feels that it would take a guy like Marciano or Frazier to beat either K bro. He feels they have the mentality and more importantly chin to take their shots and dish their own out.
Boxers are terrible judges of fights. But anyway I didn't mean it, was a throwaway comment.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:45 pm

BALTIMORA wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

George Foreman feels that it would take a guy like Marciano or Frazier to beat either K bro. He feels they have the mentality and more importantly chin to take their shots and dish their own out.

Foreman also named all five of his sons George. I'd take his opinion with a pinch of salt.

Fair point but he felt that the fact they would be willing to take a shot to land their own would benefit them. Personally I don't see it.
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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:46 pm

Haha thought he got put on his ass then.

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Post by hogey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:47 pm

Fair play to Adamek he is a brave boy, think his corner should pull him out now though.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:48 pm

Adamek is doing better than Haye did. Good heart but just not big enough
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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:48 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

George Foreman feels that it would take a guy like Marciano or Frazier to beat either K bro. He feels they have the mentality and more importantly chin to take their shots and dish their own out.

Foreman also named all five of his sons George. I'd take his opinion with a pinch of salt.

Fair point but he felt that the fact they would be willing to take a shot to land their own would benefit them. Personally I don't see it.

Adamek's trying that, and getting his face flattened (even more) for his trouble. Maybe if the opponent was also 6'8" and 245lbs with and 80-odd inch reach...

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Post by Scottrf Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:49 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Adamek is doing better than Haye did. Good heart but just not big enough
Bet the cards are wider.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:49 pm

BALTIMORA wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
BALTIMORA wrote:This is just not even fun to watch.
Na, it's like Vitali-Marciano, just not big enough.

George Foreman feels that it would take a guy like Marciano or Frazier to beat either K bro. He feels they have the mentality and more importantly chin to take their shots and dish their own out.

Foreman also named all five of his sons George. I'd take his opinion with a pinch of salt.

Fair point but he felt that the fact they would be willing to take a shot to land their own would benefit them. Personally I don't see it.

Adamek's trying that, and getting his face flattened (even more) for his trouble. Maybe if the opponent was also 6'8" and 245lbs with and 80-odd inch reach...

To be fair to Foreman, Frazier and Marciano are levels above Adamek and both could seriously punch.
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Post by Fists of Fury Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:50 pm

I was shocked haha.

This is a total panning.

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Post by hogey Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:51 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Adamek is doing better than Haye did. Good heart but just not big enough

Haye was lucky he was fighting a bloke as scared of being hit as he was, Vitali is a different kettle of fish he is just brutal and i doubt Haye would last 3 rounds with him.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 pm

He's doing loads better than Haye..(!) Least Haye avoided SOME punches.

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Post by Dominic Dicoco Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:52 pm

Really think Vitali could have finished that in the first round, but wanted the fight to last.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 pm

Fair play to Adamek he's a tough bar steward. Vitali looks as good as ever could have ended it earlier. An absolutely awesome athlete.
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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 pm

Kev that's true, but small guys are always gonna suffer on the way in, and either Klit is just so much bigger than those guys.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:53 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Adamek is doing better than Haye did. Good heart but just not big enough
Bet the cards are wider.

Yes your right, that means everything.......

Adamek had a proper go and fell way short. Haye ran like a girl and made excuses. Lets see what excuses Adamek makes....
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:55 pm

Comparing Adameks performance to Hayes is unfair Vitali is a different animal he isn't terrified of being hit so he opens up a lot more.
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Post by Scottrf Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:57 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Adamek is doing better than Haye did. Good heart but just not big enough
Bet the cards are wider.

Yes your right, that means everything.......

Adamek had a proper go and fell way short. Haye ran like a girl and made excuses. Lets see what excuses Adamek makes....
You said doing better not trying harder.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:57 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Adamek is doing better than Haye did. Good heart but just not big enough
Bet the cards are wider.

Yes your right, that means everything.......

Adamek had a proper go and fell way short. Haye ran like a girl and made excuses. Lets see what excuses Adamek makes....

Swings and roundabouts. For all his effort Adamek has been rewarded with an early night and a trip to hospital. It's not much to rave about.

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Post by Fists of Fury Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:58 pm

My 10th round stoppage prediction was correct then.

Had to be stopped, nothing coming back. Brave, Adamek, but totally outgunned.

To be honest Haye landed more than Adamek and was far better defensively, but the upshot of it all is that these guys are just too small for the Klitschko's.

Cheers for the discussion as always fellas, goodnight.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:58 pm

Well I think Adamek would have shown that heart regardless. He wasn't worried about getting hit.

Haye gets ripped apart by big bro. No way this fights gonna happen
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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:01 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Well I think Adamek would have shown that heart regardless. He wasn't worried about getting hit.

Haye gets ripped apart by big bro. No way this fights gonna happen

Regardless of what?!? You mean even if he HADN'T been shipping a massively one-sided paggering..? Brave, yes, and I doff my cap to him, but that fight just seriously risked his health.

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Post by Liam_Main Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:01 pm

Tyson Fury is the only fighter I think that stands the slightest chance against the Klitschkos. Anyone with a smaller height and reach than Wlad/Vitali and going to get punished.
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Post by BALTIMORA Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:06 pm

By the way, Dee, I didn't mean that to come across as me being on the offensive, I'm just not convinced that showing heart is always such a great thing in instances where it count for very little.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:06 pm

Liam_Main wrote:Tyson Fury is the only fighter I think that stands the slightest chance against the Klitschkos. Anyone with a smaller height and reach than Wlad/Vitali and going to get punished.
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Post by Strongback Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:07 pm

Adamek would have done better against Wlad. Wlad just wouldn't have laid into Adamek the way Vitali did.

Comparing Haye v Wlad to Adamek v Vitali is just not comparing apples with apples. Vitali would hunt Haye down and I believe Haye would take a similar beating to Adamek. The straight right from Vitali would be too much for Haye as well.


Hat's off to Vitali's conditioning. He looked in fantastic shape, his best in a while. He was quicker tonight and didn't gas. I am always a bit suspicious though of how the Klitschko's get in such good condition.

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