Ireland v USA - Live Match Thread & Post Match Discussion

[Pal Joey]

First topic message reminder :

Ireland v USA, Sunday 11/9 4:00pm (EST), New Plymouth

Ireland (15-1): Geordan Murphy; Tommy Bowe, Brian O'Driscoll, Gordon D'Arcy, Keith Earls, Jonathan Sexton, Conor Murray, Jamie Heaslip, Shane Jennings, Stephen Ferris; Paul O'Connell, Donncha O'Callagha; Mike Ross, Rory Best, Tom Court.

Res: Jerry Flannery, Tony Buckley, Donnacha Ryan, Denis Leamy, Eoin Reddan, Sean O'Brien, Andrew Trimble.


United States (15-1): Blaine Scully, Takudzwa Ngwenya, Paul Emerick, Andrew Suniula, James Paterson; Roland Suniula, Mike Petri, Nic Johnson, Todd Clever (capt), Louis Stanfill, Hayden Smith, John van der Giessen, Shawn Pittman, Phil Thiel, Mike MacDonald.

Res: Chris Biller, Matekitonga Moeakiola, Scott LaValla, Pat Danahy, Tim Usasz, Nese Malifa, Colin Hawley.

[Cari]

Dreamer - why's that?

COME ON IRELAND TA FOOOOK!

[Guest]

ah try USA, bless em.

[Pal Joey]

Oh no...

[WillyGilly]

I am appalled.

[Glas a du]

YYEEEEEEEEESSSSS!

[Gibson]

Silly kick by Trimble. Run it FFS!

[KiaRose]

Well that's the try we didn't want

[rodders]

AAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[Cari]

Oh siiiit! Intercept! Game over.

22 - 8 before conversion.

[Davie]

ooh handbags!

Thing is .... Americans carry handguns in their "purses"

[Gibson]

They fully deserve that. In total fairness.

[Guest]

Cari - I dunno, just have never liked him and he seems to put cheap shots in, stupid swinging high arm on the USA player in the deadball area in what was just a really clumsy attempt at a tackle. He seems to do it a lot (whether it's accidental or no), Just I dunno, don't like him.

[rodders]

Someone please shoot Gordon D'arcy. He has contributed nothing in an Ireland jersey in 2 seasons.

[KiaRose]

Cheers all

Enjoy Wales South Africa

[eirebilly]

Well again Ireland unconvincing. A win is a win but it really wasnt a great display

The USA really deserved a try this game, they have really put up a good fight.

[Ozzy3213]

Pleased for the USA that they got that try.

Good game, decent win for Ireland, they will need to improve to beat Australia, but they have it in them.

[rugbywhales]

Darcy is shoite.

Right now onto a real rugby match. Hope at least on home nation can play with some passion.

[Guest]

22-8, great effort and endeavour by the USA, score reflects the match imo. Well done Ireland on the win

Ireland improved 2nd half and took their chances. THeir lineout looked good. They just need a bit more composure and the points will come.

[Ozzy3213]

Right, I'm off over to the Wales v Boks match thread now...

I'm like that, fickle!

[rugbywhales]

One

[Davie]

Pleased for the USA that they got that try..

Not half as pleased as me who had Ireland by 12

[westisbest]

Disapointing in the end not to get the 4th try.

A win's a win, now on to Australia next saturday.

[Cari]

Well done Ireland...terrible conditions in the first half, and the USA will be chuffed with that. glad Tommy came good eventually. Hopefully Sexytoes won't be too disappointed with himself. I still think they need to sort out the balls...

Now for the scary match....

[eirebilly]

See you all for the Wales SA match. Come on Wales!!!!!!

Can someone explain to me why D'Arcy is still starting? Great player in his day but he is woefully out of form and is showing no signs of getting it back for Ireland.

[Notch]

So, they deserve that consolation score but I knew we weren't going to score once we blew that last attacking scrum. We can't score from outside the 22. I simply can't imagine us scoring from outside the 22.

Very disappointing performance from Ireland.

[Pal Joey]

Comprehensive win for Ireland. If it was a drier and firmer pitch probably would have been by more.

Thanks to everyone for your contributions and the great discussion on here.

[Glas a du]

All jokes aside, well done Ireland. That was a big potential banana skin. No injuries, selection made simpler. Three tries whilst not in top gear. Forward dominance. Well done USA, excellent account given and a try on the board. If Aus think the same Ireland will turn up against them they've had it.

[Biltong]

I thought Ireland was solid, they had some ahndling errors, but to be expected in the conditions.

You can't take it away from the USA though, they tackled their hearts out and never gave up.

[rodders]

A win is a win. I knew the USA would be tough.

We made a lot of handling errors but the set piece was excellent and we looked dangerous with the ball.

Excellent performance from Ferris and OConnell and Bowe showed again what a great finisher he is. Jennings and Best played well too.

There's plenty to work on but some positives too. Well played to the USA.

[Gibson]

With Italy to come after Oz, that missed point could cost us.

Ah weeel We won. Main task completed. A game under our belts. An players getting up to speed.

BOD was out of sorts but he'll up his game v Oz. And Id drop Dorce. Mcfadden in.
1F - excellent
Jennings - excellent
Best - Excellent.
Bowe coming back ans superb.
POC lead
ROG and Reddan to start next week.
The rest? Ye do em.

[Cari]

I'm about to head over to the Wales thread....but I'll leave you with this thought...

Can Ireland beat Australia???

[Notch]

O'Gara needs to start. D'Arcy shouldn't play.

[westisbest]

Would like to see Murray start next Sat, with ROG.

[rodders]

Good points from Lynah. I've been saying for a while that this rotation of the half backs is really bad for the side.

[Gibson]

Darcy is shoite.

Right now onto a real rugby match. Hope at least on home nation can play with some passion.

SA are not a Home Nation...

Best of luck Wales. Staying up to support ye. Like MOST of ye did us.

[rodders]

Would like to see Murray start next Sat, with ROG.

Murray made too many mistakes. No way could you start him against Australia, it has to be Reddan.

[valjester]

With Italy to come after Oz, that missed point could cost us.

Ah weeel We won. Main task completed. A game under our belts. An players getting up to speed.

BOD was out of sorts but he'll up his game v Oz. And Id drop Dorce. Mcfadden in.
1F - excellent
Jennings - excellent
Best - Excellent.
Bowe coming back ans superb.
POC lead
ROG and Reddan to start next week.
The rest? Ye do em.

I thought bowe was average enough. Poc wasn't at his best. The centre combination is busted but I really don't think that mcfadden is the answer. The highest level he has played at 12 is in the magners final and he was poor in that game.

[valjester]

Would like to see Murray start next Sat, with ROG.

Murray made too many mistakes. No way could you start him against Australia, it has to be Reddan.

Hopefully we'll see reddan-sexton but I fear that sexton may have played himself out of the team, haven't see him play so poorly since around 09 and before.

[Standulstermen]

Team for next week

1. Healy
2. Best- did enough tonight to hold off flannery
3. Ross
4. DOC
5. POC
6. Ferris- Our best player
7. SOB- A dual threat with Ferris could be irresistable
8. Heaslip
9. Jesus i dont know.

10. ROG- Sexton has played himself out
11. Trimble
12. Wallace- D'arcy offers zip
13. BOD- if we had another option i would be debating it
14. Bowe - Harsh on Earls i think but 2 tries swings it for me
15. Kearney- if fit

It feels very like 2007 all over again

[D24tress]

I thought jennings was poor, game was made for boss today thought he would have done alot, Murray didn't have the experience to boss it for us, doc was poor.

Is kidney just a man manager, where are the tactics, it seems its just up to the players, I know you can be over coached but from a fella who masterminded so many wins for Munster in bad conditions it was a bit shocking, ferris id say can't wait to see sob and healy back, he was on his own making yards.

[Artful_Dodger]

Joubert was absolutely atrocious, couldnt officiate the breakdown and why the hell did he give a 22 drop out at the end when the USA carried the ball over their own line??

You wouldnt expect that from a Rabo ref nevermind a WC ref.

I thought Lynagh summed things up perfectly with regards to the half backs. As I said about a month ago we dont know who our first choice half backs are. That is something that should of been sorted before we arrived in NZ. But it hasnt been - why?

Well its because of the fiasco that is Tomas O'Leary and Kidneys ludicrous decision to play him in 3 warm ups then not take him to NZ. Its ridiculous.

PS

If its similar conditions against Australia O'Gara should start.

[rodders]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Ireland are going to win the WC .

Right I'm off to run a half marathon in gail force conditions

Best of luck for Wales! Sorry I'll miss that one and I think Wales might just do it!

[Standulstermen]

Fed up of hearing about the conditions as well. Totally unnacceptable. These guys dont live in St.Tropez. IT rains in Ireland as well

Totally agree re Joubert. Worst performance i have ever seen from him. He reffed that with stars and stripes in his eyes. He would have been totally different if that was two tier 1 nations. Again i think (or thought) he was the best ref in the world but you cannot allow sentiment into reffing. Very unprofessional

[dublin_dave]

Lads i utterly admire your positivity. That was utter dung.

Can we leave our management team in the southern hemisphere. Yet another dreadful directionless attacking performance.

We were equally crap with rog on field. Sexton was poor murray was even worse. Why on earth has he not got a chance with reddan. Heaslip,Darcy very poor.

Kidney et al whatever they are doing are sucking the life out of our best crop of players in years. It is very very sad. Why are good players making so many errors.

[Cymroglan]

Well done Ireland decent win in tough conditions against a determined side.
Lot's of room for improvement though.

[Thomond]

Bowe's try came through ROG attacking the gainline. That was the best thing he did all game. I think getting a new backs coach after Gaffney could do wonders for us. We lack direction in attack.

[rodders]

Kidney does talk some rubbish!

[Ozzy3213]

Wow

Don't think I've ever seen such negativity from fans of a team that has just won their opening World Cup match pretty comfortably against decent opposition.

You do know that USA are a decent team right and you were never likely to put 50+ points on them right?

And you do know that you don't get a trophy for hammering one of the tier 2 nations in the firat game as well yeah?

Ireland won, comfortably and can grow into the tournament. They have work to do, but they have the players to do it.

Fill yer glasses fellas and stop being so half empty about things.

[WillyGilly]

What did he say Rodders? I flicked over to watch the match again.

[HammerofThunor]

Joubert was absolutely atrocious, couldnt officiate the breakdown and why the hell did he give a 22 drop out at the end when the USA carried the ball over their own line??

Erm...because he believed that the ball was already over the try line. Like he said. He missed stuff against Ireland as well. You know, like every ref.

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