Who can stop Khan becoming p4p no 1???

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Timing is everything in life and this kid has timed his career perfectly....

Huge at his weight with good skills, great jab and an already quality record and young to boot!! Not just that he's hugely marketable and tends to excite!!!

By the time Mayweather calls if he does...he'll be an old man facing Khan in his prime!!!! I see Khan beating him if Manny doesn't....

Hoppo will be long gone....Froch's good but not a World stage kinda guy!!!

Just seems destined for the top slot.....and Britain should be proud when he gets it....Never had a p4p no 1 before..

Can i just add there various factors Khan himself pose to becoming #1:

* He is too willing to get in a scrap, which when you don't have a granite chin will mean he loses fights he should win. A gassed out Maidana almost had him, imagine an elite fighter who can beckon him into punching range with a bit more nouse?

* He doesn't possess the necessary survival skills when hurt, he tends to try and fight back. Again a better fighter than the level he's fought at before will have him out of there if the situation arises again.

Whilst i feel he'll be top 5 or so, he'll run into the likes of FMJ @ 147 who'll knock him down the list (it'd take 3/4 fights to recover to fringe top 10 if he fought him next or so), Canelo @ 154 would do the same to him once he's there... etc etc, you get my drift.

Disagree....His jab will own opponents and with experience comes maturity..

He's still growing as a fighter and by the time he fights Floyd he'll be at his best whilst Floyd is on the slide...and they will fight.

Scottrf wrote:

eddyfightfan wrote:i actually fancy him for it. he won't fight vitali because hes not ready yet, but if wlad sticks around for a few years and teddy builds him up correctly (like he's doing) i think he'll be the guy to beat him. also think in a year or so the heavy division will be much stronger.

Beating Wlad wouldn't put him P4P#1, might scrape him a top 10 place. How will it be stronger in a year? There are no great fighters on the fringes of world level?

there a few unbeaten heavys at the moment who have a few decent wins, and should be looking for the bigger fights this year. helenius, fury, price, perez, solis (barring the injury). striverne, adamek, haye and arerrloa are all good wins, and who knows if anyone else will come along.

Haven't read all the way through but has anybody mentioned Khan's entourage? They're probably as likely as any boxer in stopping him become p4p#1.

What like his trainer who is considered to be the best in the business!!

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What like his trainer who is considered to be the best in the business!!

No jackass (see what i did there?). The guys who will be more concerned with how much money he makes them rather than ensuring what his boxing legacy is. They are already responsible for him hiring the 'cheaper' cuban trainer ahead of Roach prior to the Prescott defeat..

That was early in his career when he had less say in his future...

You're reaching... and silly abusive comments don't make you look big..

Imperial Ghosty wrote:PBK, De La Hoya has a very good resume at light middleweight including wins over Castillejo, Vargas, Campas and Mayorga with a contentious loss to Mosley.

They were good wins yes but are they that good that Alvarez couldn't achieve similar? That was my point. He could fight Cotto, Margarito, Bundrage, Dzinzurik, Matorisyan, Lara, Angulo even Williams. Then you have the possibility of Berto or Ortiz moving up to 154lbs in the next few years.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That was early in his career when he had less say in his future...

You're reaching... and silly abusive comments don't make you look big..

What about the recent upset with Ariza Truss. They wouldn't pay him what he wanted. Khan's next fight underwhelming. Ariza re-hired. Valid points in response to your initial post.

Cotto, Marg, Williams are all guys who've been exposed...there is no mileage in beating those guys...some of the others are legacy improving types!!

Bradley and FMJ would look much better for a no1 to have on his resume..

MCcloskey, Maidana are good wins for any champion...World class Maidana and European champ MCcloskey can't get much better than that..

He's due an easy defence.

Maidana World Class?? Not sure on that.

As for McCloskey - Joe Average!

Anyone at his weight with a decent punch that connects

Well he is World class isn't he!!! Beat Ortiz and Morales...If Paulie is world class so is he...

Mccloskey was euro champ..

Audley HArrison was Olympic gold medalist, had I not watched him fight, I amy have thought he was some sort of superstar.

McCloskey is dreadful, and Maidana was shown up as a crude slugger by Morales (who was ate least 10 years past his best and 3 weights)

bhb001 wrote:Anyone at his weight with a decent punch that connects

What? Like Maidana?? Oh wait, navigated that to a comfortable points victory....

Navigated that....

Make it sound like Captain Scott's vogage of the discovery..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:MCcloskey, Maidana are good wins for any champion...World class Maidana and European champ MCcloskey can't get much better than that..

He's due an easy defence.

McCloskey WAS an easy defence, Khan won every round comfortably without breaking a sweat. PMc is Euro level and nothing more, therefore for a supposed world class fighter with P4P aspirations that is an easy defence.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Navigated that....

Make it sound like Captain Scott's vogage of the discovery..

Sorry, forgot you're not a native speaker, if you need help with your English vocabulary try: http://thesaurus.com/

Sometimes a guy can make a certain fighter look ordinary..

Duran was easy for Hearns.....Hard for Hagler and Leonard...

Don't be too harsh..

Khan looked dreadful against mcCloskey, but 'good' against Maidana, which was the better win?

Think people are a little harsh on Khan, since and including winning the title he has beaten Kotelnik, Salita, Judah, Paulie and Mcloskey. While none of those guys are likely to trouble the hall of fame with the exception of Salita who is absolutely gash they were all top ten guys in the division. Am not too sure how much blame can be attached to Khan for the division being weak, particularly as it genuinely appears Bradley has limited interest in taking the fight with Khan.

The thing is Rowley with his great jab and height and reach advantages like Hearns he'll make fighters look ordinary...

If someone lands a la Prescott he can look ordinary...

However he can beat anybody but like Tommy can also lose to anybody with a punch!!

I'm still very much on the fence with him Truss. Can't fault the job he has done post Prescott, has rebuilt well and handled everything put in front of him without too many scares.

However my big fear with him is he does not really possess the equaliser Tommy has which will discourage people from taking chances or bullying him, particularly up at welter and he does look clueless when he is tagged. Agree he has assets that will trouble anyone, because the speed, fitness and mobility are all excellent but do wonder if it is someone with a little more craft than Maidani bouncing heavy artillery off his chin will he get away with it.

I can only see FMJ and Manny beating him....

He won't fight Manny and by the time Floyd arrrives at his door he'll be ripe for the taking..

Bradley I don't rate.

Agree with Rowley on this. Bradley was looking at securing a nice big day by fighting Manny and tried jumping ship to secure it. Seems to have all gone t*ts up for the lad on that front but there are still big fights to be made for him. He's not made any real noise about facing Amir who, it has to be said, looks to have added enough new dimensions to his game to beat him comfortably.

Bradley's done nothing to suggest he has the beating of Manny any more than Khan has the beating of Mayweather and even Manny's dire showing last time out against Mosley doesn't have me thinking "Tim could take this guy" (all it had me thinking was, "Manny needs to retire now, he's clearly out of love with the sport but likes being famous enough to keep him fighting")

Khan might make p4p number 1 by virture of the lack of quality peers with sufficiently good wins on their record to usurp him. Then again, if Froch moves up to LH and secures a fight with the main man (be it Hopkins or otheriwse) whose to say Carl couldn't be "parnd fer parnd nomber won"?

The eastenders thread was designed with guys like you in mind...Don't get ideas over your paygrade.....

Goes without saying the number 1 slot won't be fought for by the same quality fighters as it was in say the 80's

I can see how you are on the fence,Rowley, getting to my definite overview of Khan is like nailing jelly to a wall. One thing I do think for sure is that he has laid to rest the myth about his chin not holding up at top level.And that a lot of people ,including some posters here, should feel sheepish and really owe him an apology for the amount of 5hit they have given him on that front.
I can see that he doesn't have the most accurate shot -landing, and also that he does need to sit bacvk on his punches much better.Having said that, he does improve(by and large!) with every fight, and I don't think it is that fanciful to see him taking the decision from Mayweather.I wouldn't place a bet on that however.One last thing, he is a proper star in the States, perhaps a superstar around the world in many countries.And yet here he is someone we love to hate.With Naz, people watched to see him hopefully lose.I don't think Khan deserves the same treatment.

Does his chin hold up at the highest level????

Maidana had him all over the show...Paulie and Mcloskey can't bang....Barrera is a former jr feather...

think Khan has what it takes..but for me he's not put to sleep the chin-myth.

You brief foray into pleasantness seems to be well and truly over I see there TRUSS. Still, leopards and spots, jacks and asses and what have you.

Still, it does't surprise me. You seem to have as much sucess holding in your natural inclination to be obnoxious as you have sucking in your stomach!

Much greater strength in the neck and shoulders to absorb shock, with naturally strong legs, yes I think because he's fighting at a weight much more suited to his height, he'll do fine in that department.

DAVE667 wrote:You brief foray into pleasantness seems to be well and truly over I see there TRUSS. Still, leopards and spots, jacks and asses and what have you.

Still, it does't surprise me. You seem to have as much sucess holding in your natural inclination to be obnoxious as you have sucking in your stomach!

Yes ,Dave, I have backed up Truss's articles for time to time over the last few months, look how he repays me!
Guess he's on a retainer as Don Curry's Maffia...

Talking about Don Curry.............

andygf wrote:Much greater strength in the neck and shoulders to absorb shock, with naturally strong legs, yes I think because he's fighting at a weight much more suited to his height, he'll do fine in that department.

You've either got a chin or you haven't

You can't improve it to the point it'd be noticeable to be honest.

He got wobbled everywhere by Maidana who finally landed a meaningful punch on him. You can absorb the ones you see coming, a great chin is absorbing the ones you don't see coming. In the Maidana fight Khan's whiskers barely held up against someone who was blowing out of their arriss.

I'll bet everything i have that he gets knocked out again more than once (and by that i naturally don't mean "cold" i mean a KO/TKO loss)

He was spared a KO by the ropes against Maidana, who as Coxy says was blowing big time!

Agree with Coxy to an extent...........

Roger Mayweather's durability improved moving from 130 to 140 but when he was hit he still wobbled....

Limon, Prescott and Maidana showed there is a problem and whilst moving to 140 etc has improved his durability... still think he has questions to answer!!

andygf wrote:Much greater strength in the neck and shoulders to absorb shock, with naturally strong legs, yes I think because he's fighting at a weight much more suited to his height, he'll do fine in that department.

They should be more concerned that he was in a position to be caught with wide looping shots like that. Most of Maidana's work is so telegraphed you can go home, have a bath, come back and still dodge it. Worrying that Khan didn't even get out the way.

Still, they seemed to have adopted a new spin/swivel out of the way tactic against Judah which, as a I mentioned earlier, has added a welcome new dimension to his game.

Andy, if you're expecting loyalty or respect from TRUSS then you're barking up the wrong tree I'm afraid. His current method of blitzing the boards with articles irrespective of how well thought out they may be, is resulting in him responding badly to well deserved criticism and I fear you're just in the firing line

Doesn't seem to stop you from commenting on them....

Dumbass...

Khan has just been on Talksport with Keys and Gray.

Didn't rule out a fight with Manny. It could happen if Khan beat Mayweather. According to Khan, Roach said he's up against Mayweather first (before Pacquiao).

We'll see.........Manny is worth fifteen million more to Floyd than Khan!!! at the current time..

Crazy to risk all against a dangerous whippersnapper..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:We'll see.........Manny is worth fifteen million more to Floyd than Khan!!! at the current time..

Crazy to risk all against a dangerous whippersnapper..

If that was for me Truss, thank you. I rarely mingle in the upper echelons of knowledgeable posters but to have a post acknowledged by you truly is an honour.

Without my comments I fear you'd struggle to comprehend just how pointless many of your articles are....besides, you don't you too many of those big words...you nasty, bitter, little man!

BTW, how tall are you now TRUSS, what with you carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders, I reckon you must be about 5' 4" these days!

From the snippets I caught on TalkSport at lunchtime, Khan came across well...again. Don't think he wanted to be too mean to anyone and was fairly reserved about Mayweather when the subject matter turned to good guy/bad guy roles in fight promotions. Thought he may have had a bit more of a niggle at him

DAVE667 wrote:Without my comments I fear you'd struggle to comprehend just how pointless many of your articles are....besides, you don't you too many of those big words...you nasty, bitter, little man!

BTW, how tall are you now TRUSS, what with you carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders, I reckon you must be about 5' 4" these days!

From the snippets I caught on TalkSport at lunchtime, Khan came across well...again. Don't think he wanted to be too mean to anyone and was fairly reserved about Mayweather when the subject matter turned to good guy/bad guy roles in fight promotions. Thought he may have had a bit more of a niggle at him

He struggled with the word equilibrium.

I'm bitter!!.... and yet I go out of my way selflessly to post articles for the betterment of this site and all you do is come on here and abuse!!

Interesting assessment.....

DAVE667 wrote:...even Manny's dire showing last time out against Mosley doesn't have me thinking "Tim could take this guy" (all it had me thinking was, "Manny needs to retire now, he's clearly out of love with the sport but likes being famous enough to keep him fighting")

How DARE you. That was the fight of the century.

"besides you don't you too many of those big words.."

Game, set and match..

Sorry Balti, I must have caught the re-run and they edited out all the good bits.

Truss, if you're aim is to is post articles for the betterment of this site I would suggest you either

A/ Try harder or B/ (My personal favourite) Just give it up as a bad job. As for suggesting that all I do is abuse, I'd like to point out that much of it could be construed as constructive criticism (well, to someone who wasn't quite as 'precious' as yourself.

Sean, against Maidana, Khan struggled also struggled with equilibrium

Dave, I have it from a very reliable source that that was a PEAK Mosley in the ring with possibly the biggest puncher 147 has EVER seen. No lie.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:"besides you don't you too many of those big words.."

Game, set and match..

I haven't used any big words there, I just added one that wasn't required and missed out one that was...besides which, you managed to read it OK, something you'd struggle with if they WERE any bigger.

Thanks for the advice.........

Notice our d4 friend is conspicuous by his absence today...