England vs West Indies t20 series

First topic message reminder :

The selectors have named the squad for the series with GRAEME SWANN named as the new captain

here is the squad..

Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire, captain), James Anderson (Lancashire), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Scott Borthwick (Durham), Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire), Danny Briggs (Hampshire), Jos Buttler (Somerset), Jade Dernbach (Surrey), Steven Finn (Middlesex), Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire), Craig Kieswetter (Somerset), Samit Patel (Nottinghamshire), Ben Stokes (Durham).

The probable line up i assume is...

1)Alex Hales
2)Craig Kieswetter
3)Ravi Bopara
4)Jonny Bairstow
5)Jos Buttler
6)Ben Stokes
7)Samit Patel
8)Tim Bresnan
9)Graeme Swann
10)Jade Dernbach
11)James Anderson

im quite looking forward to the game tonight, is anyone else?

Yeah.

Looking forward to seeing the youngsters in action.

i think we will win, but i think we need to see a good fielding and bowling performance from these youngesters, and the batting will hopefully be awesome from the england boys

so England won the toss and have elected to bowl. Team is much as expected, with the possible exception of Finn being picked ahead of Anderson. Patel gets in ahead of Briggs.

England team: Craig Kieswetter (wk), Ravi Bopara, Jos Buttler, Alex Hales, Ben Stokes, Jonny Bairstow, Samit Patel, Tim Bresnan, Graeme Swann (capt), Steven Finn, Jade Dernbach.

Order they were given in, but suggestion may be that this is the batting order, so Bopara opening? interesting call if so...

mfc box is on for the game as well mate

West Indies team
DR Smith, J Charles, MN Samuels, DP Hyatt, NE Bonner, DO Christian†, CD Barnwell, AD Russell, DJG Sammy*, D Bishoo, FH Edwards

Bowling looks pretty good, but batting a real weakness here. Wonder if Swanny will open the bowling to have a go at his bunny Smith...

Bopara.. how stupid has he made us look.

and how great to see england fans at an england match.

Anyway, back to the cricket:

what do you think of this start from CK and young Hales?

i think its a very good start trebs, good to see hales in the runs, after his awful start against india.

Yeah I felt for Hales in that game. This has been a real chance to get some runs and get his career going.

yup looks like once again buttler wont bat

England cruising it here.

50 for hales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very good. Thus far it looks a very professional performance.

Excellent in the field and two good starts with the bat but they've never had anything to chase really.

50 from CK now.. good stuff.

This has been a easier win that I thought. Mid-way through the Windies first innings you would of thought it would be closer.

yes they were hitting big.

when swannage went for 2 sixes and a four i thought they would get 160 ish.

Yes, as did a few on the chat box.

Looked a pretty decent batting pitch.

about three overs into this game I said 160 was a minimum score on this pitch. Haven't changed my mind watching England bat, they could have chased 180 here fairly comfortable IMO

who'd have thought Ravi would ever get a MOM award for his bowling (as seems likely)?

England cruise to yet another win in this remarkable summer.

That was a good win.

Yes it's a new Windies side but it was a new Eng side too and they still had to do the job. It was comprehensive, spearheaded by an amazing bowling performance by Ravi.

Hardly a contest. The later Windies batsmen did zilch.....

thing is England look so unflappable at the moment: KP gets rested, never mind, we smash India in the ODIs without him, and that's what, five captains this summer, winning under every one of them with no problems. Swanny captained pretty well today I thought. With now some young batting talent coming through, added to the remarkable strength in depth of our bowling things are looking very good indeed...

chris woakes should have got a go!

How did England lose? I watched West Indies bat and thought no point watching England as they'll hammer them again but they lost lol 88 runs only thats rubbish.

England need to get Bali Singh in to the side.

Woakes probably didnt "get a go" because they have a lot of fast bowlers already. The kids theyve tried out are filling specific roles where they have a deficeny in the side or lack reserves.
Borthwick...a batting spinner to challenge Fatel
Stokes/Bairstow/Buttler ... guys who can come in at 6/7 and hammer fast runs
Hales.. an opener giving the possibility of resting Cook ( or not playing him in T20) or playing one of the young keepers down the order rather than continuing with the keeper must open policy

cant believe we couldnt chase that down though, credit to west indies, but we should really chase that down, these players might be young, but they are quality, thats why they were picked to play.

VivaPaulScholes wrote:How did England lose? I watched West Indies bat and thought no point watching England as they'll hammer them again but they lost lol 88 runs only thats rubbish.

England need to get Bali Singh in to the side.

England when put under the cosh and are under pressure are like the same old England of the 1990's in terms of being fallible to collapsing like a pack of cards.

ENG 4 RUN OUTS??? no team can win against such good fielders.

Or poor running...I'd suggest the latter.

I'd say a bit of both. The run out of Buttler by Sammy was quality fielding.

Not really good fielding just a lack of focus and leadership and some luck. It happens, especially in T20.

To be fair though healkdess chicken syndrome came form pressure to keep the scorebaord moving as England got behind the rate. England were desperalty short a proper batsman having packed the side with hitters

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Not really good fielding just a lack of focus and leadership and some luck. It happens, especially in T20.

To be fair though healkdess chicken syndrome came form pressure to keep the scorebaord moving as England got behind the rate. England were desperalty short a proper batsman having packed the side with hitters

lack of leadership?

swanny has done very well with the captaincy in these 2 games.

cricketfan90 wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Not really good fielding just a lack of focus and leadership and some luck. It happens, especially in T20.

To be fair though healkdess chicken syndrome came form pressure to keep the scorebaord moving as England got behind the rate. England were desperalty short a proper batsman having packed the side with hitters

lack of leadership?

swanny has done very well with the captaincy in these 2 games.

In the field yes but when it was 2 batsmen out there theres not a lot Swann can do. Having a massively inexperienced batting lineup showed up.

im suprised how bad we did bat though to be honest.

It happens in T20 though, thats both the beauty and the problem with the game you really never knwow hats goign to happen and very mediocre players can on occassion make very good ones look like idiots.
It does prove the point that theres still a place for proper batsmen in that format as well as the inovative big hitting lunatics. Having a Cook or Trott stay in alongside Stokes for 5 overs would have been enough to win England that game.
As it was they ended up witha bunch of healdess chickens who could decided wheter to look for the gaps or try and hit their way out of trouble and isntead try to run their way out.
Im really not convinced that Patel is a good enough batsman.

good to see the youngesters got a go, but we played too many at once lol.