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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 2:54 pm

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So the 5th ODI between India and England is underway, the last act in a terrible summer tour for India, and an opportunity to win at least 1 international match.
A win for England would be a nice way to cap off a wonderful summer.
India have their regular quota of injury yet again, and this time, its their best bowler Praveen Kumar. R Vinay Kumar, and not Varun Aaron takes his place in the XI.
For England, Jimmy Anderson is getting a much deserved rest, and Jade Dernbach gets another game. Johnny Bairstow, the impressive young wicket keeper batsman from Yorks, is in pllace of Ben Stokes, and Samit Patel is getting another game.
The weather has already resulted in a delaied start, and further trouble can be expected.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:07 pm

Muraf.. ouch. they should not be playing in this rain.. just call it off and stop injuring people you stupid umpires.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:12 pm

Game over, these two are just not aggresive enough.
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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:14 pm

England are well placed, they aren't losing wicket, and they are scoring at almost 6. This is how they won previous matches. Of course there is no Eoin Morgan or Kevin Pietersen in the middle, but even the lower order led by Bresnan and Swann can also give it a go. This one is also slipping away from India I think.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:15 pm

Munaf injured, so there is scope for India to continue to go down.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:17 pm

Any idea how much would England need at the end of 20 overs?

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:19 pm

oh, got it from cricinfo, 119 with 1 down. England are well on their way.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:24 pm

Poor from Cook but frankly him and Trott was making me want to cut my own eyes out (especially the infected one). thank god one of them is gone.

They were batting like it was a bloody test in those overs since the injury.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:29 pm

Mujst say since that painfully slow partnership i see no way eng could get near this total.. 40 runs behind a run a ball and slowing.. rather poor.

They seem happy to plod along and lose to India without giving it any effort today.

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Post by Carrotdude Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:33 pm

3 6's in an over, that better for you trebs? Keep the faith guys!

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:34 pm

Incidently, that was Virat's first ODI wicket.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:36 pm

I tell you what, England can still do this. Nervous times for India.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:36 pm

Yes that was better. Bell did well there.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:38 pm

slipped well behind again now.. come on boys.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:40 pm

Ravindra Jadeja adds another to his list of poor overs that will be remembered by people. He may have done a lot of good in between, but just like those 3 overs in the world T-20, this will be rememberd. Poor chap.

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:43 pm

87 off 65 wickets in hand come on boys Very Happy

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:45 pm

No way India will save this one. one of their main bowlers is out injured although he wasn't doing anything great, and Jadeja's confidence will be pretty low after that thrashing.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:46 pm

What a turn around, England are surely favourites now
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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:48 pm

Kohli has stepped in well with the ball so far, but can't expect him to continue this way for long.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:48 pm

Damn, Bell gone Sad
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Post by Carrotdude Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:50 pm

Lets see what Bopara can do when chasing the game and needing to up the run rate.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:51 pm

unless a wicket falls in the next 2 overs, England to walk this one. Even otherwise, they are strong favorits at the moment.
and here is the wicket, Bell gone. India would be happy with one more soon.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:53 pm

Even though Bopara did well in the last ODI, he doesnt instill confidence in me that he can kick on and reduce the RRR
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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:53 pm

Ravi Bopara got England close to line last time round, will he get them over it this time?

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:54 pm

jadeja back on trott gone Sad

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:55 pm

Oh Bollix
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:56 pm

Very annoying when an indian comes here and salutes the crowd behind him when he catches because they all support him though they come from here.

sigh. gone to the dogs as my Dad always said. I'm off back to France when I retire.

england.. well thank god trott has gone, he was making it painful to watch this.

Indias day.


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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:57 pm

msp83 wrote:Ravi Bopara got England close to line last time round, will he get them over it this time?

No Indias day. Their english legion will finally cheer.

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:57 pm

good to see bairstow in

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:58 pm

Brave or foolhardy from Dhoni, Ravindra Jadeja is back on for another over. And he justifies the captain, Jonathan Trott gone. What has young Bairstow got to show us?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 9:59 pm

I could never be more happy than to see Trott gone.. is anyone less suited to a T20 bash?

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:00 pm

Think Dhoni is over bowling Kohli here, but with Munaf out, don't think he has a lot to choose from.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:02 pm

67 of 41, is pretty much doable

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:02 pm

6 clap

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:04 pm

Bopara is the senior batsmen in this partnership, he should be going after the bowlers and reducing the RRR...
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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:04 pm

This lad Bairstow, is one for the future. Seems to be made of the right stuff.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:05 pm

Think Bopara should as of now, push the single and look for the big one of bad balls and let Bairstow and Samit P and the rest to go for it.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:06 pm

it's doable with a T20 side for sure but this isn't.

still i'd rather india sneak their one win than cruise it.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:06 pm

Bairstow doing the job that his senior batsman should be doing.
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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

Jadeja's having a real tough time out there, and England are right back in it.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:08 pm

Good move this, batting powerplay taken.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:09 pm

Bops is sooooo slow in these games. Surely not one for the T20's.

To be fair all these guys are ODI lads stuck in a T20 now.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:11 pm

Go Bairstow Very Happy
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:12 pm

Is that 37 off 30 needed?

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:13 pm

Yes, England has found a seriously good tallent. He's playing as a specialist batter here, but the lad keeps wickets for Yorks!.

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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:14 pm

How many overs Ashwin's left with?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:15 pm

Is Bops now doing his best to slow it back down?

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:16 pm

10 runs off 2 balls.... for Bopara..... clap

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Post by robbo277 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:16 pm

Ashwin's only bowled 3, and I guess 4 bowlers can bowl 7 and 1 can bowl 6.

Don't know why he is persisting with Kohli, maybe Ashwin can't grip it. Massive 6 for Bairstow, we're under a run a ball.


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Post by msp83 Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:16 pm

Bopara topedges a 6, and England clear favorits now. and 4 more to Ravi, poor bowling from RP Singh.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 16 Sep 2011, 10:17 pm

OK that was lucky but better.

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