The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

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Tonga v Japan is a super game so far. How's everyone. Munsty I'd say why bother to make any active efforts to discourage her. If she asks you out or makes a move then just say you aren't interested. If she doesn't do anything like that why the need to stir the pot?

Snap, cherry red, black stratch plate...

Spoiler:

I sold my for craic though....

Oh just to join in, I have a tanglewood guitar personally.



I've stocked up on Hot Chocolate and Lemsip. I'll conquer man flu yet!!

Song for this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mO4mJA3MYs

Oh and to join in I have a mandolin!!

Arlidge sin binned. A big call from Pearson. Not sure he got it right.

I had a MicroKorg a few years ago. The sounds you can get out of it are amazing, I'd spend hours on it with my headphones on. But I can't play piano so I couldn't play proper tunes and I wasn't in a band by then, so I sold it to my brother-in-law, who was in a band.

Did you know Stephen Ferris gave his matchday shirt to an Irish fan in the crowd after the game at the weekend? What a memento! I 80% feel it was an awesome gesture, and 20% feel he abuses every opportunity to take his shirt off.

Spoiler:

hughie1986 wrote:Notch, I was looking on eBay and there is a lad selling loads of guitars, but he has his shop in London so I might just get it from him, just playing with ideas really at the minute.


I can play a few cords already just from messing about on buddys guitars and ill just teach myself the rest. I do have manky fingers though that don't like to bend in certain waya so iy might just scupper me haha

Hughie, i have been playing for four months now and are starting to really enjoy it, know a few songs off by heart and from sheet music can play a number quite well, we have a three man jam session every friday and it is good fun.

See if you can find one or two guys to play with, it helps a lot.

Here are some websites you will find very useful.

For all your chords. It gives you over 400 different chords to play. start with the basic ones first, then the minors and 7's
http://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/B7.asp

to get the chords for all your favourite songs.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/

I have done around 50 songs on word, so if you require them I can emial them to you, just pm me your email address, they are ready to print.

The way we do it is to listen to the song a number of times, get all the pauses and strummings right and then start practicing.


good luck.

Just a note my songs aren't the new age wacka wacka, it is mostly from the beatles, eagles, ccr, chris de burgh ( although we struggle to sing as high as he does) and some other golden oldies.

My favourtie ones are House of the rising sun and Streets of London.

The best part about learning to play guitar is the first time you manage to play along to a song and change chord in time with the song. It's a real breakthrough. Mine was Nirvana's version of 'Molly's Lips,' the whole song's C and G all the way through.

Enjoy that feeling! Once you get good you'll be berating yourself for not being able to play redonkulously fast metal licks and some of the joy will be gone...

Cheers biltong, don't have a printer though haha


I had a guitar a while back, well i say had but I really mean robbed my mates, and used ultimate guitar for all the cords, its really good

Yeah, it is great, but I tell you when you realise how much there is to learn even when you are getting at least competent enough to play a few songs, there will always be a challenge to get better and better.

Oh and I can play Ride On by Christy Moore, all of three chords E C D tricky stuff haha

I don't think I've ever met a musician who didn't want to be better at what they do. This applies to stunning musicians who are pushing the limits of the physically possible.

Well the house of the rising sun is not so bad.

Am C D F
Am C E
Am C D F
Am E Am

repeat 5 times to the words.

cool song.

I taught my sister the chords to 'Let it Be' years ago. She doesn't play guitar and doesn't know any other songs, but she can still play 'Let it Be.'

red_stag wrote:Tonga v Japan is a super game so far. How's everyone. Munsty I'd say why bother to make any active efforts to discourage her. If she asks you out or makes a move then just say you aren't interested. If she doesn't do anything like that why the need to stir the pot?

I'm asking for subtle hints not saying it to her straight out. Makes me feel uncomfortable myself.


Missed the first half of this game. Sickened. Second half has been very exciting. Good try by Vainikolo. Connacht fans will enjoy watching this.

It literally is the Japanese handling errors letting them down! Poor attempt at a tackle by Alridge for Vainikolo's try.

Thats fair enough just make sure you don't come across as being rude or unfriendly when doing so. Unless she is taking active steps to seduce you, I say just forget about it if nothings gonna happen.



First half was much tighter than this one.

Not necessarily for this tmo but do you all think that the ref's are becoming a bit too reliant on going to the video ref? Some of the ones for this world cup have been obvious tries.

Instead of watching it on my new TV, I'm watching this online. An indictment of how poor the commentators for ITV are.

Possibly Prop but a ref will get crucified if he allows a try in a World Cup and the TV replays show it shouldn't have been or similarly decides its held up and we see a try has been scored.



I don't like the TV ref myself but I think referees should certainly use it when they have it.

Yeah I agree with that Stag, but there's been some where surely the touch judges would have seen a blatant foot in tough, I can't remember who it was but someone had their foot quite a way in touch, went on and dived over and it went to video ref with the tj right by the player!!

The blindside for Tonga, Kalamafoni is a cracking player. Plays for Nottingham but I'd not say for too much longer.

biltongbek wrote:Well the house of the rising sun is not so bad.

Am C D F
Am C E
Am C D F
Am E Am

repeat 5 times to the words.

cool song.

Biltong, why not try experimenting with different voicings for the chords when playing it? There are multiple different ways you can voice those chords even in the first five frets. Try exploring some of those voicings and see how it changes the sound whilst maintaining the essential harmony

Ultimate guitar is a good website Hughie, there’s an app too. it even scrolls down in time with the song so you can set it and forget it!

Right now I’m enjoying playing in different styles of tuning. Have it tuned to some kind of openG at the moment, i think? (DGDGBE), sounds really nice…

Right lads, I'm going to do it Flip it, I've found this cheap ass site that will sort me one for about thirty quid, sure if I dont like it its only a few pound


Just going to get the first one


http://swiftmusiclondon.weebly.com/acoustic-guitars.html

That's open G Mickado yes. It's a pretty easy tuning! Already harmonised when the guitar is open.

Regarding Ultimate Guitar, it's great in the way wikipedia is great. Anything can be put up by anyone and is rated by members. So some of the tabs are just inaccurate, but some are great.

You'd probably want to spend a bit more and get something a bit better. Washburn make decent entry-level acoustic guitars.

I've used different tunings to play along to some of Nick Drake's songs. Some quality tunes there and no mistake.

Japan have have turned down 4 kicks at goal this half...that would have made it a 1 point match!!

It's a first guitar. I wouldn't worry too much about what make you get, Hughie. If you really get into it you can always upgrade.

Japan would have been kicking for the match then, oh well.

Notch wrote:That's open G Mickado yes. It's a pretty easy tuning! Already harmonised when the guitar is open.

Regarding Ultimate Guitar, it's great in the way wikipedia is great. Anything can be put up by anyone and is rated by members. So some of the tabs are just inaccurate, but some are great.

Great analogy. There is some garbage on there, suppose if i play something and it doesn't sound right i'll cop it but that might not be possible for a beginner.

Nice use of open G here from Sungha Jung:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4CR3GoB3YY

Tonga v Japan has been one of my favourite RWC matches this year.



Prop - if they scored any of those kicks it would have been different. They wouldn't have got the other penalties necessarily as the game would have changed. It would have restarted differently, different rucks, different plays. Tonga could have scored a try from the restart who knows.

prop_lyd wrote:Japan have have turned down 4 kicks at goal this half...that would have made it a 1 point match!!

No it wouldn't have. Each one would have changed the way the whole game was so we've no idea where it would have been.

MBTGOG wrote:

prop_lyd wrote:Japan have have turned down 4 kicks at goal this half...that would have made it a 1 point match!!

No it wouldn't have. Each one would have changed the way the whole game was so we've no idea where it would have been.

+1

Trust the Refs to have the final say

Cracking game. Had to watch it on the iphone though.

France and New Zealand will get through in this group but I'm really looking forward to seeing Tonga play against France. Could be a really good game of rugby.

I hope Kirwan stays in charge of Japan. He's done a fantastic job with them and I can only see them improving further under him.

Notch wrote:

biltongbek wrote:Well the house of the rising sun is not so bad.

Am C D F
Am C E
Am C D F
Am E Am

repeat 5 times to the words.

cool song.

Biltong, why not try experimenting with different voicings for the chords when playing it? There are multiple different ways you can voice those chords even in the first five frets. Try exploring some of those voicings and see how it changes the sound whilst maintaining the essential harmony

Thanks Notch, will be trying things like taht soon, at this point especially with chris de Burgh that is quite necessary because of his ability to sing much higher than we can. We have changed a few songs to get the chords a little lower as well.

But I am at the beginning stages still and will get creative once I am confident enough, at my age it is a challenge in itself to learn a new instrument.

red_stag wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:

prop_lyd wrote:Japan have have turned down 4 kicks at goal this half...that would have made it a 1 point match!!

No it wouldn't have. Each one would have changed the way the whole game was so we've no idea where it would have been.

+1

Was just a simple observation about decision making and the number of penalties given. Ok I may not know about the tactical bit of rugby but I do like to comment on it now and again. Got to love the supportive nature.

Time to go....

Ah Prop don't be like that. Jeez just disagreed thats all.

biltongbek wrote:

Notch wrote:

biltongbek wrote:Well the house of the rising sun is not so bad.

Am C D F
Am C E
Am C D F
Am E Am

repeat 5 times to the words.

cool song.

Biltong, why not try experimenting with different voicings for the chords when playing it? There are multiple different ways you can voice those chords even in the first five frets. Try exploring some of those voicings and see how it changes the sound whilst maintaining the essential harmony

Thanks Notch, will be trying things like taht soon, at this point especially with chris de Burgh that is quite necessary because of his ability to sing much higher than we can. We have changed a few songs to get the chords a little lower as well.

But I am at the beginning stages still and will get creative once I am confident enough, at my age it is a challenge in itself to learn a new instrument.

Yeah no need to rush things! Just take your time and enjoy it. I wasn't talking about transposing up or down though, you can change the voicing without changing the key.

For instance the most common voicing of C major is;

0
1
0
2
3
X

But it can also be played like this, with an added 7th (B)

3 7 12
1 5 12
4 5 12
2 5 10
x x x
x x x

or without the 7th;

3 8 12
1 5 13
0 5 12
2 5 10
x x x
x x x

Basically if you imagine C major is 3 different notes (C, E, G is the major triad- the 1st, 3rd and 5th degrees of the scale. The 7th degree is B, and this gives it a nice jazzy inflection) than any combination of those three notes anywhere on the neck of the guitar is a C major chord. Why always play one voicing? You can play any chord in so many different ways across the instrument.

When you say "voicing" do you mean that you can also play a Cmaj as:

0
1
0
2
3
3

?
I'm not familiar with properly musical terms. My pal got his masters in Music last week, i should really mine him for some tips...

My friend at this stage i am having enough trouble to learn enough chords to play more songs, to learn more variations of the same chord is way above my standing at this point.

Besides now you are just making me feel even more derpressed thanks for that.

To give you an example on F, i just can't seem toget my hand over enough to play the correct F So intead of doing

1
2
3
4
o
x

I do
1
2
3
x
x
x


Cheating.

and have you seen some of the suspended chords.

it seems a task too far.

Gbsus2

you don't strike the a and d string.

Stupid Munster fans upsetting people again. I thought there would be enough support for my request to ban Red Stag by now too

Sorry stag I'm having a pretty bad week and I'm noticing some trends I'm this pub and think I'm going to step away 'from it and not post as often for a while unless the Wales match is on.

notch to make matters even worse, I play left handed and had to inverse all the chords for easier reading, otherwise when you come up with a new chord it takes too long to work out where your fingers go.

prop_lyd wrote:Sorry stag I'm having a pretty bad week and I'm noticing some trends I'm this pub and think I'm going to step away 'from it and not post as often for a while unless the Wales match is on.

Rev - you get no hug