The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the virtual rugby pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the collage of great current hookers pictures on the bar. We've got Tincu, Ledesma, Ford, Best, Thompson and Bennett all in action. Graffiti's a banning offence

So pull up a chair....what'll it be?




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MBTGOG wrote:Is it freshers on Monday or the real thing?

No, this week is freshers week. Bloody freshers staggering around the place all over the shop! Nothing worse than watching other people having fun. I myself have several books I'm meant to have read and digested by the start of term. No jagermeister here pal!

I still have my Encyclopedia Britannica. 33 volumes. All knowledge is there to kick-start it and to preserve what came before. I can reinvent the wheel. If I can keep em dry that is.

Give me a shout, if yer stuck, when the bomb drops.

Probably not but things like modern medicine, engineering etc. all this knowledge we've acquired over the past century would be gone.

Didn't we lose lots of knowledge of astronomy when the mayans were wiped out? And during the dark ages?

...Worse still RWC records would be gone but for the odd surviving copy of Rugby World magazine!

How would future generations know about Ireland winning the RWC in 2011?!!

Cymroglan wrote:Maybe starting all over again is not such a bad idea.

But if we did mo chara, wouldn't it just end up the same? It is inherent in us, to phhok it up. Instead of just enjoying the beauty, enhancing it and getting on. Or not?

roddersm wrote:...Worse still RWC records would be gone but for the odd surviving copy of Rugby World magazine!

How would future generations know about Ireland winning the RWC in 2011?!!

Best chance of that is if there is a nucleur holocaust and the hardy survivors can make up whatever they want! Unfortunately, rodders, I don't think you are quite hardy enough

As long as I survive to see the day Notch....

Pm Gibbo

Hugster. Back at you my friend.

I miss you. Miss yer divilish, smiling - fisog.

I love Ben Cohen. Hes on BEEB at the mo. Ive long signed up to his battle vs anti-gay & bullying campaign. Spreading the word.

One of my heros. And I don't do heros easily.

Bore da pawb / good morning all. I've still got a box of old letters I've received from friends and family over the years. So much more meaningful than an email, even if you printed the email. They're time capsules, too. I should write more letters. We should write more letters. Everyone should write more letters.

Chavhanga's coming to the Dragons, Rev? I hadn't even heard rumours about that. That makes him the first Springbok (or ex-Springbok) we've had since Percy, I think.

Morning all, one Asbo special please

Morning all,

I think the game this morning could be a 100 point win.

Portnoy wrote:When was the last time anyone wrote a letter about just stuff?

Not congrats or condolences or ritual stuff like Xmas. But just a letter.

I'm searching my memory bank and frankly it must be ten to fifteen years. And I'm pretty certain that most people under 25-30 never have (school-sponsored pen-pals excluded).

A lot of social history will disappear without letters and a lot of present and future burgeoning careers will be peremptorily shortened by the eternal memory of social networking.

I write letters fairly frequently Portnoy, to one of my best mates from Uni who I very rarely get to see. We both like writing and receiving them so works for us.

And bore da pawb/good morning all.

Just watching the rugby online, Namibia showing some goodish stuff but SA just too good for them.

I think there were some top points made on the letter front by Portnoy. Its such a more personal way of doing things.



I think this marks one week now when I have agreed with every point Portnoy has made in here and disagreed with none. Spooky



I'm normally a very disagreeable barstewart!

I've written letters too Portnoy. I think the last one was in June.

MBTGOG wrote:Morning all,

I think the game this morning could be a 100 point win.

Could well be. SA have looked very sharp so far. 17-0 already and they've had another possible try ruled out.

Du Plessis, the no.6 for Namibia, has been quite impressive so far.

Stag,

PM.

MBTGOG wrote:Stag,

PM.

You should send him a letter instead!

luckless_pedestrian wrote:

MBTGOG wrote:Stag,

PM.

You should send him a letter instead!

I really am quite impressed with a lot of Namibia's play. They aren't being bullied by SA at the breakdown and they're really looking to run the ball.

This is a really exciting game.

Great break by #11 for Namibia. Hardy little fella.



Have to say I always really liked Gio Aplon.

red_stag wrote:I think there were some top points made on the letter front by Portnoy. Its such a more personal way of doing things.



I think this marks one week now when I have agreed with every point Portnoy has made in here and disagreed with none. Spooky



I'm normally a very disagreeable barstewart!

OK, Staggy, I'll take up your 'disagreeable' mantle!!

What is all this nonsense about letters being in some way more 'personal'? Does less thought go into an electronic form of communication than a written one? It's what's in the communication, not its format that matters - time to accept that there is such a thing as progress. Sounds to me like you lot would take us back to writing on clay tablets!

Will that do?

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

red_stag wrote:I think there were some top points made on the letter front by Portnoy. Its such a more personal way of doing things.



I think this marks one week now when I have agreed with every point Portnoy has made in here and disagreed with none. Spooky



I'm normally a very disagreeable barstewart!

OK, Staggy, I'll take up your 'disagreeable' mantle!!

What is all this nonsense about letters being in some way more 'personal'? Does less thought go into an electronic form of communication than a written one? It's what's in the communication, not its format that matters - time to accept that there is such a thing as progress. Sounds to me like you lot would take us back to writing on clay tablets!

Will that do?

I'm going to have to side with Asbo on this one. I'm all about progress. But i don't like the new facebook...

I wonder will Namibia hold onto the qualifying spot from Africa next time around? It might be nice to see another nation come in.

I can see your point, Asbo, but I disagree. I'd say that, in the main, less thought / consideration goes into an email. Not every time, of course, but most of the time. I have done no research whatsoever into this.

Emails are progress? Yeah right. It's all about the text. That's where we be now!

Good evening/morning all, I hope everything's fine.

They're usually the words I start my letters off with... then I go into the main body with some anecdotal story or a trivial account of a journey somewhere... always ask about the pets, send your love to the other relos and then sign off with plenty of Xs and Os.

I think SA might pull away here in the second half. Namibia have shown promise are but unfortunately behind on the scoreboard.
I hope it's not a cricket score. (We have a cricket break until they depart for SA in October... it's been non-stop since 2008 and we've lost everything - twice.)

I'm trying not to worry about tomorrow's game v USA. There's so many replacement players. It's like a patched up old WWII air craft carrier with a severe shortage of state-of-the-art jets on the decks. I can see them doing OK but the real test will be after the Russia game at the end of the round. We need our big five back.

The weather is nice and mild at the moment. Cool breezes taking the edge off a hot spell but there is more heat on the way coming from the desert areas to our north west.

I tipped SA by 44 but I can see them scoring more than 13 points easily once they start throwing it around with the speedsters.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:I can see your point, Asbo, but I disagree. I'd say that, in the main, less thought / consideration goes into an email. Not every time, of course, but most of the time. I have done no research whatsoever into this.

I don't see why that should be the case, Lucky, tbh - the advantage of electronic communication is the speed of delivery, it need not affect the content. Now telephone call vs text is a different argument altogether ...

Clay tablets all the way!!!

In music, we call it the fetishisation of the analogue. People cream over old vinyl records, old analogue tape recorders. Of course, there's plenty of valid reasons to bash many digital encryption algorithms and MP3s can be pretty low quality but have you ever tried to edit magnetic tape? I haven't but it's an incredibly difficult, painstaking process.

I think what people miss about vinyl and analogue recording is the imperfections; little anomalies in the frequency response that lend the recordings a sort of character, like your lover's messy handwriting. Somehow something thats slightly off, well- it just seems more human somehow.

But nostalgia makes us ignore the drawbacks to the old ways.

It shouldn't be the case, Asbo, but I bet it is in most cases. There's something about committing something to paper that makes you pause a bit more and consider what you're going to write before writing it.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:It shouldn't be the case, Asbo, but I bet it is in most cases. There's something about committing something to paper that makes you pause a bit more and consider what you're going to write before writing it.

Then the fault lies with the writer rather than the medium?

There's nothing wrong with the medium at all. But the immediacy with which you can send an email, and any corrections, might lead people to put less thought into what they write. As I say, I have no evidence for any of this, it's just a hunch.

Asbo I would say it depends wholy on the circumstances. For something urgent I would have to consider e-mail the best way forward. However in many social situations a letter is the more personal touch. I think I've written 4 personal letters in the last 12 months. One for example was from Ghana. I could have logged onto Facebook and jotted down info. Instead a 5 page letter was way better to send.

red_stag wrote:Asbo I would say it depends wholy on the circumstances. For something urgent I would have to consider e-mail the best way forward. However in many social situations a letter is the more personal touch. I think I've written 4 personal letters in the last 12 months. One for example was from Ghana. I could have logged onto Facebook and jotted down info. Instead a 5 page letter was way better to send.

I see where you're coming from, Staggy, but why did you, the sender, believe that the written word would be more personal, or why did you believe that the recipient would find it more personal? What would have been the actual differences in the content had those 4 letters been sent as emails?

Bunch of luddites in here this morning?! Will be most disappointed if I haven't managed to insult anyone yet!

The handwritten element of the letter makes it more personal. Seeing their style of handwriting spelling mistakes, words scribbled out, maybe jottings in the side margins, doodles on the back.

Plus, it always always more exciting to receive a letter than an email.


South Africa running away with this now.

Because its the thought and effort that counts.

A similar analogy. At Christmas I can buy someone a voucher for a shop. Or a can put a bit of effort in and buy a gift which is more personal. Similarly seeing something in one's indiviudal handwriting adds a personal touch which is more appropriate in the right circumstances.

BTW - Houggard is really impressing me. IMO he's their best scrum half going forward.

Ha, you'll have to do better than that to insult me Asbo!

Another key thing about a letter is that it's an artefact.

Morning people

73 - 0 to SA now I believe, can't for the life of me remember what I predicted on SG though.

Actually speaking of letters one of my pals called over yesterday as my dads in the Gardaí. His family got some weird hate mail in their letter box.

red_stag wrote:Actually speaking of letters one of my pals called over yesterday as my dads in the Gardaí. His family got some weird hate mail in their letter box.

Really? From who?

MBTGOG wrote:The handwritten element of the letter makes it more personal. Seeing their style of handwriting spelling mistakes, words scribbled out, maybe jottings in the side margins, doodles on the back.

Plus, it always always more exciting to receive a letter than an email.


South Africa running away with this now.

Tosh! Unless your style of handwriting changes from missive to missive, how can someone who knows you already (ie the recipient) read anything into handwriting style? Most folk would try to avoid scribbled out words, and spelling mistakes would be as commonplace in e-comms; as far jottings in the side margins and doodles on the back?! Hope I never get a letter from you, Munsty!!!

red_stag wrote:Because its the thought and effort that counts.

A similar analogy. At Christmas I can buy someone a voucher for a shop. Or a can put a bit of effort in and buy a gift which is more personal. Similarly seeing something in one's indiviudal handwriting adds a personal touch which is more appropriate in the right circumstances.

Further nonsense! Why does written communication require more thought? Or even effort? (in Ghana for example, I presume that pen and paper were more readily to hand than an internet connection?). Your analogy is a poor one too - a better one would be using the internet to buy a specific gift versus going into a shop - ie the end result is the same in both cases!

Oh, this is fun

luckless_pedestrian wrote:Another key thing about a letter is that it's an artefact.

No more so than an email that is highly personal to you? I keep all of those too

Munsty - it wasn't signed. Actually its wasn't handwritten. An envelope with a scrap of paper with printed letters. It said something about cleaning up their act, how can people be expected to live amongst all the flith. It was really random.



But it was addressed to them by name and posted.