Pass the Parcel Quiz.

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Lets see if it catches on.

To start: Heavyweight journeyman Jesse Fergusson has fought 11 past/future World Champions and lost to 10 of them, which did he not lose to?

Ah, come to think of it, might have been Mike Weaver actually.

Looks like there are two and my question is a bit stupid. The person I'm thinking of actually fought your answer Chris.

Yes Mike Weaver

Ha ha, I'm running out of questions here!

Who was Mexico's first world champion?

88Chris05 wrote:Ha ha, I'm running out of questions here!

Who was Mexico's first world champion?

Eric Morales?!

Hmmmmm....

Apologies for the spelling, and i know he was hispanic (could be anything then!) but - -- - Paulino Uzcudan??

Uzcudun was Spanish.

Pekey Scalzo??not sure of the spelling

Nobody's got it just yet.

Scottrf wrote:Uzcudun was Spanish.

Near enough! Hispanic, all the same!

Knowledge of him isn't all that

John Murray's next opponent is #2 in his division in Spain which really brings it home how horrible the matchup is. Not really a boxing nation.

88Chris05 wrote:Ha ha, I'm running out of questions here!

Who was Mexico's first world champion?

Baby somebody, cant remember his second name Chris, did he beat Henry Armstrong?? Is that on the right lines?

I think you're thinking of Baby Arizmendi, Jimmy, and it's a very good shout - but not quite what I'm after.

88Chris05 wrote:I think you're thinking of Baby Arizmendi, Jimmy, and it's a very good shout - but not quite what I'm after.

That was the fella Chris thanks, I'm a little stumped now.

We've had a Battling Levinsky, a Battling Torres...Can anyone else think of any other 'Battlers' for the answer?...

The only two battlers which come to mind are Siki and Nelson but am fairly sure neither of those help us greatly

Well we've confirmed he's a 'battling' so to speak. A clue / reminder; the second half of his ring name is actually very un-Mexican sounding.

Shaw?

That's the one, Ghosty. Battling Shaw. Nice work.

Strictly speaking not considered a fully fledged champion either

Ok, which boxer officiated a world title fight before he had fought one himself?

Wiilie Pep?

imperialghosty wrote:Strictly speaking not considered a fully fledged champion either

Ok, which boxer officiated a world title fight before he had fought one himself?

Georges Carpentier.

Carpentier is correct Windy

Shaw is a legitimate world champion as far as I'm concerned. The NBA may not have been recognizing the Light-Welterweight division, but the NYSAC gave it the nod and I don't see anyone refusing to acknowledge Ross or Canzoneri's reigns at 140 lb immediately after. Anyway, that's my take on it.

As for your question, I believe the answer is...Ah who am I kidding, haven't got a clue on that one.

imperialghosty wrote:Carpentier is correct Windy

Cheers, Ghosty.

At Jim Jeffries' training camp for the Johnson fight in 1910 several fighters, current and retired, gathered to wish him well. One such was thrown out of Jeffries' camp. Who was it, and why was he ejected ?

Sam Langford. Because he was black.

Is this the old tale about Ketchel Windy, read a story he saw Jeff was in poor shape and so concerned was he Jeff would be knocked out he concocted a plan to Ko Jeff himself to save him the embarrasment. If not is an amusing story all the same.

samevans1 wrote:Sam Langford. Because he was black.

Given the circumstances, sam, that's a great guess, but incorrect, I'm afraid.

Ketchel

Jeffries was unhappy that SK had been to see Johnson training previously

Just a stab in the dark, considering the culture of the time.

rowley wrote:Is this the old tale about Ketchel Windy, read a story he saw Jeff was in poor shape and so concerned was he Jeff would be knocked out he concocted a plan to Ko Jeff himself to save him the embarrasment. If not is an amusing story all the same.

Bang on with Ketchel, jeff.

Ketchel wasn't interested in the race thing, and was a drinking buddy of Johnson, even though he admired Jeffries as a fighter. The story I read reported that Jeffries had him thrown out because he suspected that Stan was spying for Johnson.

Well done, mate, and over to you.

Which tow champions went to the same Reform School.

Windy feel a bit of a cheat as not sure my reason was right but since these are getting tricky will take it

Chris Eubank and Mike Tyson.

I do feel very cheated Jeff

I'd say Graziano and someone else

Dwight Braxton (later Dwight Muhammad Qawi) and Rubin Carter, both in Rahway State Prison.

Graziano and Jake La Motta.

Oops, just seen you put reform school, rather than prison. My mistake.

rowley wrote:Which tow champions went to the same Reform School.

Windy feel a bit of a cheat as not sure my reason was right but since these are getting tricky will take it

Floyd Patterson, Jeff?

The answer I was looking for was the one provided by Sam, Chris yours may well be right I was thinking of Lamotta and Graziano, was going to say they were middelweights but thought it might be too easy, didn't think at the time this would open it up to other fighters.

Of course La Motta, i'm making a habit of getting half the answer now

imperialghosty wrote:I do feel very cheated Jeff

I'd say Graziano and someone else

In a desperate attempt at diplomacy, Ghosty, I'd say that you were both almost right, but jeff edges it by being a bit quicker. ( And that's as close to grovelling as you're going to get. )

How many lineal World Champions did Oscar De La Hoya defeat? And name them?

samevans1 wrote:How many lineal World Champions did Oscar De La Hoya defeat? And name them?

None, but I could be thinking of Roy Jones who beat no lineal champions.

I'd say just the two Chavez and Whitaker

More than 2.

samevans1 wrote:How many lineal World Champions did Oscar De La Hoya defeat? And name them?

I have no idea Sam good question how about Chavez, Whitaker, Ruelas and and the Spanish kid at Jnr Middleweight?

He beat Mayorga, also.

I know that Oscar was never a lineal champion himself while Ruelas and Castillejo were never lineal champions either

Ruelas not a lineal champion, but getting closer, Jimmy.

Yes Mayorga always forget he beat Forrest for the Welterweight title

I will state; they did not have to be lineal champions at the time he beat them.