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Post by Scottrf Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:22 pm

First topic message reminder :

Answer a question - Ask the next one.

Lets see if it catches on.

To start: Heavyweight journeyman Jesse Fergusson has fought 11 past/future World Champions and lost to 10 of them, which did he not lose to?

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Post by Jimmy Stuart Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:17 pm

John John Molina ?? Sam

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:17 pm

samevans1 wrote:I will state; they did not have to be lineal champions at the time he beat them.

Then we need to add Hernandez.

I make that Chavez, Whitaker, Mayorga and Hernandez.

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:22 pm

One away, Windy. The other 4, spot on.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:25 pm

samevans1 wrote:One away, Windy. The other 4, spot on.

Best I can do without cheating, sam.

This one is tougher than I thought when I first read it. Hats off to you.

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Post by Jimmy Stuart Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:27 pm

samevans1 wrote:One away, Windy. The other 4, spot on.

Jorge Paez ??

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:27 pm

I believe someone may have inadvertently named the fighter without actually naming them?

It is NOT Molina or Ruelas.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:27 pm

Camacho must have been a lineal champion at some point?
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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:28 pm

Not Paez.

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:28 pm

Not Camacho.

Clue, lads?

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:30 pm

Wasn't Yuri Boy Campas, was it?
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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:30 pm

Nope.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:31 pm

Jesse James Leija?


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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:32 pm

samevans1 wrote:I believe someone may have inadvertently named the fighter without actually naming them?

It is NOT Molina or Ruelas.

Castillejo !

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:33 pm

Windy is correct!

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:36 pm

Thanks, sam, but without your clue I'd never have gotten it.

Which world champion lost his title by way of first round kayo and won it back with a decision win in the rematch, four months later ?

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:38 pm

Terry Norris.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:41 pm

samevans1 wrote:Terry Norris.

The fella I'm looking for lost his title by way of FIRST ROUND kayo, sam.

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:43 pm

Couldn'r remember his results that well; just knew he was a glass jaw!

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:46 pm

samevans1 wrote:Couldn'r remember his results that well; just knew he was a glass jaw!

Ha !

I won't lie to you, sam. When you mentioned Norris I was sufficiently panic - stricken to go check his record because I couldn't remember, either, and I thought I might have dropped a clanger.

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Post by bellchees Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:49 pm

Williams Paul

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:50 pm

The other way round with him!

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Post by bellchees Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:51 pm

Hence the backwards names, but seriously I have no idea about the actual answer at the moment.

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:52 pm

This feels like an eighties heavyweight to me, having thought about it.

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:53 pm

Got ya!

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:54 pm

Would be witherspoon if he'd rematched Bonecrusher

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Post by Jimmy Stuart Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:55 pm

samevans1 wrote:This feels like an eighties heavyweight to me, having thought about it.

Sam
I was thinking of Mike Weaver against Dokes, but I dont think he got the nod in the rematch.

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Post by Scottrf Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:57 pm

Few people know about Sonny Liston's real second fight with Patterson, which Patterson won by decision. The mafia heavily bet on Liston, and so they erased all records from the books, leaving the third fight (known now as the second fight) for them to fix and claim their money.

That's my answer.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:58 pm

Wasn't Julian Jackson was it, Windy? I know McClellan blasted him out in a round for the WBC belt, and I also know that Jackson briefly regained the title after that. However, I have no clue who it was against or how long after the McClellan fight it was.
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Post by bellchees Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:59 pm

With this being a question set by Windy I imagine it's a Flyweight from the 1920's who no one else has heard of.

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:00 pm

That's right Jimmy, it was a draw.

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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:01 pm

Jackson didn't beat McLellan, Chris. He won the vacant belt after Gerald moved up in weight.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:03 pm

I know he didn't beat McClellan, Sam. But I missed the word 'rematch' in Windy's question, so thought it may have been a bit of a trick one.
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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:04 pm

bellchees wrote:With this being a question set by Windy I imagine it's a Flyweight from the 1920's who no one else has heard of.

All good shouts, fellas, but bellchees is the one who is getting warmer.

The clue is that ONE of his criteria - either the flyweight or the '20s - is right, while the other isn't.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:11 pm

I can't believe I've been missing this one! Did an article on the top 10 Flyweights of all time on the old 606, and mentioned this particular aspect when justifying my high ranking for this man; Pone Kingpetch.
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Post by samevans1 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:12 pm

Ah, got ya Chris.

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Post by Jimmy Stuart Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:15 pm

88Chris05 wrote:I can't believe I've been missing this one! Did an article on the top 10 Flyweights of all time on the old 606, and mentioned this particular aspect when justifying my high ranking for this man; Pone Kingpetch.

Windy will clarify but thats Terrific stuff forgot all about him, hats off for that Chris and also to Windy for the question.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:18 pm

88Chris05 wrote:I can't believe I've been missing this one! Did an article on the top 10 Flyweights of all time on the old 606, and mentioned this particular aspect when justifying my high ranking for this man; Pone Kingpetch.

Well done, Chris.

In 1963 Kingpetch was pole axed in a round by a Japanese fella whose name escapes me for a minute, in a massive upset. Order was promptly restored four months later when Kingpetch won a clear decision.

Over to you.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:19 pm

Thanks for the compliment, Jimmy.

I'm thoroughly enjoying this, and learning plenty.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:27 pm

Oddly enough Windy, I was going to use Kingpetch in one of my questions earlier, but my question was going to be who was Thailand's first world champion. Yours was much more interesting!

Who is the only boxer to have completed the double of Olympic gold medallist and world champion, but both of them at Welterweight?
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Post by Scottrf Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:30 pm

Breland?

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:32 pm

Scottrf wrote:Breland?

Strewth, Scott, it took me longer to read it than it did for you to answer it. Well done, mate.

You been on the PEDs ?

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:33 pm

Impressive stuff, Scott. Off you go.

Windy, I agree. Random, Olympic-style drug testing will put an end to Scott's little game.
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Post by Scottrf Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:38 pm

Well your last answer was I guy whose name I'd only seen once before, so win some lose some. Was sure it was him or Leonard.

Struggling to think of more questions now...name 4 Olympic Gold Medallists currently operating in the Heavyweight Division.

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Post by bellchees Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:40 pm

Povetkin, Audley, that Italian guy who's name escapes me and Wlad Klitschko

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:41 pm

Wladimir Klitschko, Audley Harrison (!!!), Alexander Povetikin, Orlandier Solis.
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Post by Scottrf Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:42 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Wladimir Klitschko, Audley Harrison (!!!), Alexander Povetikin, Orlandier Solis.
thumbsup

Solis is a bit bigger than he was in those days though...

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:47 pm

76 lb is the biggest weight difference for a single fighter between their first ever world title bout, and their last one. Who holds this record?
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Post by Scottrf Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:47 pm

George Foreman?

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:48 pm

Good shout Scott, but not right.
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Post by Scottrf Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:49 pm

Carpentier?

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