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Post by niwatts Tue 20 Sep 2011, 11:42 am

Just wanted to make a request regarding titles.

I've been trying to watch most of the games in the WC, but due to the number of matches and times, I have to spread them throughout the week and it takes a few days to catch up. Obviously I avoid reading posts with the match in the title to keep the game a bit of a mystery, but when the score is put in the title it becomes impossible to keep it a surprise without avoiding the board altogether, and invariably I'd like to log on to see or make comments on another game in the interim.

So, please, where possible, could we keep the scorelines to the main body of the text?

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Post by munkian Tue 20 Sep 2011, 11:53 am

Dude, if you dont want to know news about the World Cup, don't go on a rugby forum thumbsup
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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 11:55 am

Fair request, it's happened to me a couple of times.


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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 11:55 am

well said Munkian thumbsup
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Post by munkian Tue 20 Sep 2011, 11:58 am

I didn't want to know the Wales v Samoa results before 0930 - I turned my mobile off, didnt go near the TV or Internet - and I was fine.

It's common sense no ? Even if the results aren't in the title the match may well be discussed in other non related threads.
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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:03 pm

Munkian, what if I want to discuss something in the Clubs section? On the main page I will still see the title of the last article to be commented on in the international section.

It's a simple request and easily adhered to. No big deal.

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:08 pm

Don't go onto a rugby forum then, its simply!
Why should the rest of us have to watch are steps just because you want to watch a game without knowing the result. 🤦

Italy won by the way 53-17 , opps!!!!!
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Post by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:08 pm

I agree with OP and greybeard.

Its not much to ask - instead of saying: Ireland 15-6 Australia just saying Ireland v Australia.

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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:11 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:Don't go onto a rugby forum then, its simply!
Why should the rest of us have to watch are steps just because you want to watch a game without knowing the result. 🤦

It's just a polite request, hardly a major problem. But politeness seems in short supply on here some times.

BATH_BTGOG wrote:Italy won by the way 53-17 , opps!!!!!

Please stop being so childish.


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Post by Davie Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:12 pm

I agree too - it's a standard applied to other subforums also

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Post by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:14 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:Don't go onto a rugby forum then, its simply!
Why should the rest of us have to watch are steps just because you want to watch a game without knowing the result. 🤦

Italy won by the way 53-17 , opps!!!!!

Bath, I'd say its more a case of why do you want to do something unnecessary that you know will inconveneience others.

Obviously you can't be forced to do it. It baffles me why anyone would respond with the attitude you have done.
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Post by HammerofThunor Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:18 pm

Don't see the harm in asking. If I really really don't want to know the score I stay away. If I'd prefer not to I might just avoid specific threads. It's a risk management thing.

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:21 pm

If I don't want to know the football scores before I watch match of the day I don't watch the news,I don't go online or put the radio on.

its common sense!

and its hardly worth a post on a sports forum.

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:25 pm

Everybody that's on the forum will presume that everybody else knows the score anyway.
Your best bet is to watch the game first then pop in the forum that way you will know what everybody is on about.
No harm in asking but the majority will already have watched the games so the results will pop up all over the shop.


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Post by Rava Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:26 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:If I don't want to know the football scores before I watch match of the day I don't watch the news,I don't go online or put the radio on.

its common sense!

and its hardly worth a post on a sports forum.


I seems to have been worth you posting three times on this thread. Cut the guy a bit of slack. I't a fair request.
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Post by Guest Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:26 pm

munkian wrote:I didn't want to know the Wales v Samoa results before 0930 - I turned my mobile off, didnt go near the TV or Internet - and I was fine.

It's common sense no ? Even if the results aren't in the title the match may well be discussed in other non related threads.

Thats what I did, wish I could have watched it live but had to wait till the morning to watch it, so I switched my phone off, didnt touch a PC and just watched the match not knowing anything.

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Post by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:27 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:If I don't want to know the football scores before I watch match of the day I don't watch the news,I don't go online or put the radio on.

its common sense!

and its hardly worth a post on a sports forum.


Yea I get that buts its a perfectly fair request to make. It doesn't take any effort to do.
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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:35 pm

Is there a time limit we have to wait before we can discuss the game after the event just encase someone hasn't seen it yet?

I didn't want to know the result of the american football game on Channel 4 at the weekend but I went on the NFL site and it was the first result that flashed up, It was my own fault and I wouldn't expect anyone else to miss out just because I hadn't seen the game, ok it was a fair request by hey life isn't fair.

Come on guys see sense!
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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:35 pm

This is getting silly. Let's just all read this and then we can all get back to pretending to work.

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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:37 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:Is there a time limit we have to wait before we can discuss the game after the event just encase someone hasn't seen it yet?

I didn't want to know the result of the american football game on Channel 4 at the weekend but I went on the NFL site and it was the first result that flashed up, It was my own fault and I wouldn't expect anyone else to miss out just because I hadn't seen the game, ok it was a fair request by hey life isn't fair.

Come on guys see sense!

Bath, it's sensible for me to want to browse the club section without entering the international section. But I can still end up finding out scores because of the "Latest Post" column on the main page.

It's no biggie, just a simple request that can easily be done. Nae drama.

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Post by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:37 pm

Bath do you put scores in the titles usually?

If so why? If not then whats the problem?
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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:39 pm

Why don't you do a poll!

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Post by Enforcer Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:39 pm

I think it is a good point, especially as you could avoid the Rugby section all together, but if the thread with the score in it is the last commented it is visible from the homepage of the site.

I would encourage everyone to follow that out of common courtesy if nothing else.

Also, giving a match result in a thread when you know there is a chance the person doesn't want to know is childish in the extreme. Are you one of those people who delights in telling people how films end or the results of a game as they settle to down to watch a replay or highlights?

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:43 pm

I haven't seen the match result from today.

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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:44 pm

Enforcer wrote:Are you one of those people who delights in telling people how films end or the results of a game as they settle to down to watch a replay or highlights?

That's only ever funny if you say "He dies in the end" to someone reading the bible.

Very Happy

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Post by Enforcer Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:47 pm

Or saying 'the zebra did it' to someone reading a dictionary...

I'll get me coat.

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Post by niwatts Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:49 pm

I'm not asking people to go massively out of their way, I'm mainly referring to the match discussion threads where it starts off as the match title then the OP changes it to include the scoreline once the game is completed. It would just be nice if they could leave it as it is, which actually involves less effort on their part.

With the times of the matches as they are, few people get up for the earliest matches every day of the weekend. If you get up for the games starting around 7-9am, it would be good to be able to log on to the site to find a match discussion thread for the game as it unfolds without instantly seeing the score of the 3am match.

If it's a big match that I'm desperate to see unfold, yes I would avoid all news altogether, and if I come on the site and happen upon the result of a game in general reading, fair enough, my problem. I'm simply requesting that changing topic titles of discussion threads not become the de facto. If people find that a big ask, fair enough, I'm not trying to have a go at anyone. For those of you that concur, thanks for listening.

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:51 pm

If a fan has just seen his side win he is not going to hold back from posting the score for all the world to see and neither should he be expected to do that.
Bit of common sense needed if you don't want to know the score then the best bet is to avoid the sites that are likely to show them.

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Post by Enforcer Tue 20 Sep 2011, 12:53 pm

If there is already a thread why would they need to start a new thread or edit the title? That is what the discussion is for, I can't see why it is a problem.

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Post by plenth Tue 20 Sep 2011, 1:39 pm

Agree with the OP, very sensible protocol that would maximise the number of posters on the board during matches.

If people feel the need to shout the scoreline out from the title, they are obviously entitled to and shouldn't be reproached. However, the majority of matches involve teams that aren't supported on here or have results that don't induce that strength of feeling, so it would seem a very simple and considerate request.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 20 Sep 2011, 2:32 pm

Totally agree. There should be a "spoilers" sub section, strictly enforced for match and results threads

On that subject, what is the point in the general rugby section at the minute? I know we had and won this argument several times but we are still stuck with teh ridiculous situation of having a main sectionbarely anything in it that couldnt be in the international or club section. Whey not just have one club board and one spoilers board.

Results kept out of the main section for 24 hours.

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Post by Comfort Tue 20 Sep 2011, 2:41 pm

To be fair, this is rugby forum, and if you havent watched the game and dont want to know the score, you'd do well to stay off the board until you have seen it?

But at the same time, he's only asking to not put the scores in the titles of articles - which is actually easier than putting the scores in the title.

I understand but i dont think we need to restructure the whole rugby forum!

i love how on the internet, a small issue, with several very easy ways of being solved, has become a bickering war of words!

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Post by Davie Tue 20 Sep 2011, 2:45 pm

Comfort wrote:To be fair, this is rugby forum, and if you havent watched the game and dont want to know the score, you'd do well to stay off the board until you have seen it?

But at the same time, he's only asking to not put the scores in the titles of articles

That's exactly what I thought too.

No one is asking people not to post match scores in articles .. and I don't believe they should be hidden away in a "spoiler" sub section. Just don't include them in a thread title!

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:24 pm

Whats next!

I only enjoy watching the highlights programme so can you all stop giving away whos playing who please, as I enjoy the surprise when I sit down to watch it. 🤦
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Post by Enforcer Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:27 pm

Is it really that hard to understand? If you're trying to be funny it is not working.

It was asked as a courtesy to other users, if you can't show that then you're the one with the problems.

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:34 pm

Life’s too short mate to worry about enforcing a rule as to whether a score line is in the title or not, lighten up! Very Happy
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Post by Guest Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:36 pm

Bath, all we are asking is for a bit of courtesy to your fellow posters.
By all means discuss the results and scores within the threads. But do not have the score in the title of the thread. Any articles that do include the results will be edited to take them out.

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:41 pm

Can we have a vote ?

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Post by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:42 pm

Cymroglan wrote:Can we have a vote ?



Why do you want a vote? None of you have said why you want scores in the title.



You don't even have to do anything Y I Man just said the mods will even remove them for you. Match Scores In Titles 1505004552
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:44 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:Life’s too short mate to worry about enforcing a rule ........, lighten up! Very Happy

Wayne Barnes took that kind of attiutude in the last world cupo and GreyGhost still hasnt gotten over it

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Post by Biltong Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:44 pm

I think it is very difficult for posters not to celebrate their team's win without putting the score as a headliner.

with all due respect going onto a rugby site, to discuss rugby and hope not to pick up an inkling of a result in even another thread especially when it is linked to the same pool teams, is like going to a stag party hoping not to have any shooters or drink thrust upon you. you don't want to do it, but it happens.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:46 pm

biltongbek wrote:I think it is very difficult for posters not to celebrate their team's win without putting th score as a headliner.

with all due respect going onto a rugby site, to discuss rubgy and hope not to pick up an inkling of a result in even another thread especially when it is linked to the same pool teams, is like going to a stag party hoping not to have any shooters or drink thrust upon you. you don't want to do it, but it happens.

Hence why you mave a "spoilers" forum if you want to do it properly, and dont allow match results in the main board.
Works for everyone then.


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Post by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:47 pm

Stag I take it you don't do jokes Rolling Eyes

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Post by Biltong Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:49 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
biltongbek wrote:I think it is very difficult for posters not to celebrate their team's win without putting th score as a headliner.

with all due respect going onto a rugby site, to discuss rubgy and hope not to pick up an inkling of a result in even another thread especially when it is linked to the same pool teams, is like going to a stag party hoping not to have any shooters or drink thrust upon you. you don't want to do it, but it happens.

Hence why you mave a "spoilers" forum if you want to do it properly, and dont allow match results in the main board.
Works for everyone then.


But what if I go to a thread about let's say the Wales vs Fiji match, and they talk about the pool standings in that thread, which now will obviously for example include the fact that SA has lost to Samoa, you can't avoid that kind of talk.
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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:50 pm

biltongbek wrote:I think it is very difficult for posters not to celebrate their team's win without putting the score as a headliner.

with all due respect going onto a rugby site, to discuss rugby and hope not to pick up an inkling of a result in even another thread especially when it is linked to the same pool teams, is like going to a stag party hoping not to have any shooters or drink thrust upon you. you don't want to do it, but it happens.

No one's asking people to curb their enthusiasm (see what I did there?), just to have a bit of netiquette. No biggie.

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:52 pm

These guys are taking this whole site far too seriously these days.

If you don’t want to know the score then going onto a rugby forum isn’t a good idea.



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Post by Biltong Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:53 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:These guys are taking this whole site far too seriously these days.

If you don’t want to know the score then going onto a rugby forum isn’t a good idea.




That is what I have been trying to say, albeit in a more diplomatic way, and not directly wnating to chase them away. Whistle
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Post by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:54 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:These guys are taking this whole site far too seriously these days.

If you don’t want to know the score then going onto a rugby forum isn’t a good idea.


Yes, we know, you've said that.

And others have pointed out that there are ways to be considerate to fellow posters.

You'd swear your human rights were being affected by this request the way you're so against it.

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:55 pm

So people have to make sure they don't post the score on the article title just in case somebody thats recorded the game comes into the forum ?

Why not watch the game first then come online problem solved

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Post by Guest Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:57 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
biltongbek wrote:I think it is very difficult for posters not to celebrate their team's win without putting th score as a headliner.

with all due respect going onto a rugby site, to discuss rubgy and hope not to pick up an inkling of a result in even another thread especially when it is linked to the same pool teams, is like going to a stag party hoping not to have any shooters or drink thrust upon you. you don't want to do it, but it happens.

Hence why you mave a "spoilers" forum if you want to do it properly, and dont allow match results in the main board.
Works for everyone then.

The system works fine in the wrestling section. Results are not mentioned in titles of threads straight after a PPV or show. Why should member's enjoyment of the forum be spoilt? There is no need to have a sub-section. It is just a case of not putting the results in the title. It is not a difficult thing to do.

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