Match Scores In Titles

by niwatts Tue 20 Sep 2011, 11:42 am

First topic message reminder :

Just wanted to make a request regarding titles.

I've been trying to watch most of the games in the WC, but due to the number of matches and times, I have to spread them throughout the week and it takes a few days to catch up. Obviously I avoid reading posts with the match in the title to keep the game a bit of a mystery, but when the score is put in the title it becomes impossible to keep it a surprise without avoiding the board altogether, and invariably I'd like to log on to see or make comments on another game in the interim.

So, please, where possible, could we keep the scorelines to the main body of the text?

by niwatts Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:57 pm

Yeah, I'm not suggesting a spoiler section or that people refrain from discussing matches in any way, simply that if they don't mind, don't rewrite a topic's title with the scoreline, but keep it to the main body of text.

If it's your team and you do mind, fair enough, but when it's a game with no personal involvement for the poster, I was hoping that it could be avoided.

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:57 pm

Cymroglan wrote:So people have to make sure they don't post the score on the article title just in case somebody thats recorded the game comes into the forum ?

Why not watch the game first then come online problem solved

They don't 'have to make sure', they've been asked politely if they'd mind not doing that, all friendly like. And now there are people getting all out of sorts at such a scandalous request.

I mean... really?

by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:57 pm

Its even more simple - carry on as normal.

Mods will remove threads if necessary. It won't put anyone out in any way to do it.

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:58 pm

Wrestling results are published in the paper a week before the event takes place Very Happy

by Guest Tue 20 Sep 2011, 3:59 pm

red_stag wrote:Its even more simple - carry on as normal.

Mods will remove threads if necessary. It won't put anyone out in any way to do it.

On the contrary Red, we have stated not to do it. If someone who has posted on this thread deliberately does, then they will find themselves on the wrong end of a temp ban.

by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:01 pm

But what if its the score line that matters, example, one group might be decided on points scored in another game, therefore the score is all important but can't be included in the title just because Joe Bloggs hasn't watch the game yet.

by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:01 pm

Oh right my mistake I just saw this comment:

"Any articles that do include the results will be edited to take them out"

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:02 pm

So if somebody uses a Headline like this for example.

Namibia force their way to a win.... will be fine as long as the score is not there

by Davie Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:03 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:But what if its the score line that matters, example, one group might be decided on points scored in another game, therefore the score is all important but can't be included in the title just because Joe Bloggs hasn't watch the game yet.

Then indicate in the thread title what it is you are about to do - then put the score in the body of the article!

Jeez you guys really are making a mountain out of a molehill Rolling Eyes

by Guest Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:03 pm

Then just discuss it in the thread Bath.
Im sure everyone who has seen the match will know what has happened so no need to state it in the title. Just chat about it on the thread.

That was in general Red. Some who have not seen this thread may do it not knowingly. Those who have been on this thread will be doing it out of spite.

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:04 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:But what if its the score line that matters, example, one group might be decided on points scored in another game, therefore the score is all important but can't be included in the title just because Joe Bloggs hasn't watch the game yet.

Does this offend you on some particular level? Are you about to rail against the political correctness of an online forum? laughing

by **Biltong** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:04 pm

I understand we must consider other and not put the socres in the title, and I will as a 606v2 law abiding citizen do that ( hope i remember).

But that still doesn't guarantee it won't come up as general discussion in various threads.

by Adam D Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:06 pm

Enough beating around the bush on this.

The reason why this is an issue is down to the fact that the matches in question are being played in the middle of the night and during work hours.

The score can be discussed within the thread but it is not to be placed in the title. People use this forum for other things other than just rugby. If the thread title contains the score, it may be seen on the home page accidentally.

This is not a discussion up for debate, it is a temporary rule whilst the rugby world cup is on.

For games played at normal times (ie rabo/ aviva/ 6N) this is not an issue. For the world cup games, due to timing of them, it is a rule.

I do not want people to face censure over a common courtesy to others.

Yes we can all get passionate about things, but do it within the confines of the thread.

To clarify -

Allowed - Wales v S Africa post match discussion
Not allowed - Wales narrowly lose to South Africa

You must give your fellow posters a chance to watch the match (ie the next evening) before discussing in the thread title.

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:06 pm

biltongbek wrote:I understand we must consider other and not put the socres in the title, and I will as a 606v2 law abiding citizen do that ( hope i remember).

But that still doesn't guarantee it won't come up as general discussion in various threads.

And if it does, it does. Hey ho.

I think the point is it's nice to be nice, not necessarily asking for a gagging order Hug

by Adam D Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:08 pm

Adam D (Hobo) wrote:
To clarify -

Allowed - Wales v S Africa post match discussion
Not allowed - Wales narrowly lose to South Africa

You must give your fellow posters a chance to watch the match (ie the next evening) before discussing in the thread title.

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:09 pm

This is not the wrestling section it's normal for rugby fans to include the scores.

by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:11 pm

But why should I care that someone hasn't watched the game within a 24 hour window?

Those with Sky don't care about the ones who have to wait until the Sunday's evening highlights programme on ITV.

Why is the world cup a special case?

by Adam D Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:11 pm

Cymroglan wrote:This is not the wrestling section it's normal for rugby fans to include the scores.

Cymro - your choice mate. You have all been given the directives as to what is allowed. whether you follow them or not is the risk only you can make.

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:11 pm

Biltong, if it comes up as general discussion in a thread then that's fine, you can't odds that.

The point is don't put results in the title. Simple. No further discussion needed people. Move along, nothing to see here.

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:13 pm

Rules created just because one person cant or wont watch the game before he comes online.

by Adam D Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:13 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:But why should I care that someone hasn't watched the game within a 24 hour window?

Those with Sky don't care about the ones who have to wait until the Sunday's evening highlights programme on ITV

The difference is that the games on a Sunday afternoon are played at a time when UK residents can watch them. The games in the RWC are at an unsociable hour.

To paraphrase your comment - why should I care whether whether we lose a member of the forum for going against a moderator request.

Its up to you whether you listen to the rules I have laid down.

by **Biltong** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:15 pm

Boys, this is serious, step away from the thread. Wink

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:16 pm

I can't... it's like a car crash... must look

by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:16 pm

So why are those who can afford Sky sports allowed to post scores and those of us who get up a 4am because we have a love of the game not allowed to mention the scores?

by Comfort Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:16 pm

Think of your thread as a jacket potato.

You tell everyone that your having a jacket potato (you do this by posting the thread).

You tell everyone what your topping was (this is the thread title).

Then in the body of the thread you explain the filling (the score/opinions etc)

I mean would you ever have you filling above your topping? No, thats lunacy. The toppings the top, the fillings the fill, haters gonna hate, ballers gonna ball, rollers gonna roll and if a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around, only the badgers will hear it.

If anyone is interested, I take my jacket potato filled with chicken,bacon and mayonaise. And i like it topped with cheese.

raspberry

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:17 pm

Well Adam if people are threatened with a ban just because they include the score in a title is heavy handed.
If that sort of attitude continues then there is a danger that only the moderators will be left on the site.

I'm going to leave it at that because debate went out of the window when the red ink was used.

by **Biltong** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:17 pm

Step away bath, .....just step away. censored

by Adam D Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:18 pm

If you love the game so much, why do you want to spoil it for fellow fans?

I have stated what is to happen and informed all the mods and admin to act swiftly toward anyone who breaks the rules.

by Fernando Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:18 pm

Don't mess with Hobo

he bans people for fun Shocked

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:18 pm

Comfort wrote:If anyone is interested, I take my jacket potato filled with chicken,bacon and mayonaise. And i like it topped with cheese.

So the cholesterol is a moderator?

by Adam D Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:19 pm

Cymroglan wrote:Well Adam if people are threatened with a ban just because they include the score in a title is heavy handed.
If that sort of attitude continues then there is a danger that only the moderators will be left on the site.

I'm going to leave it at that because debate went out of the window when the red ink was used.

That was a mistake you made - it wasnt a debate.

by **Biltong** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:19 pm

Comfort wrote:Think of your thread as a jacket potato.

You tell everyone that your having a jacket potato (you do this by posting the thread).

You tell everyone what your topping was (this is the thread title).

Then in the body of the thread you explain the filling (the score/opinions etc)

I mean would you ever have you filling above your topping? No, thats lunacy. The toppings the top, the fillings the fill, haters gonna hate, ballers gonna ball, rollers gonna roll and if a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around, only the badgers will hear it.

If anyone is interested, I take my jacket potato filled with chicken,bacon and mayonaise. And i like it topped with cheese.

well now you are taking this thread to another level.

what if you are having macaroni and cheese. Although the cheese is the topping, it is also the filling. what then, ha,,, what then. Whistle

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:20 pm

I noticed

by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:20 pm

Cymro - and still you have not said what your problem with this is. What do you get out of having the score in the the title. How will this affect you in any way.

by Comfort Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

greybeard wrote:
Comfort wrote:If anyone is interested, I take my jacket potato filled with chicken,bacon and mayonaise. And i like it topped with cheese.

So the cholesterol is a moderator?

The weight gained is the moderator, the cholesterol is admin! Sad

wait, weight, which has more power, the admins or mods?

All i know is, Im hungry cake

by Fernando Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

Seriously guys what's so hard about writing ?

New Zealand VS Australia post match thread

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

biltongbek wrote:
Comfort wrote:Think of your thread as a jacket potato.

You tell everyone that your having a jacket potato (you do this by posting the thread).

You tell everyone what your topping was (this is the thread title).

Then in the body of the thread you explain the filling (the score/opinions etc)

I mean would you ever have you filling above your topping? No, thats lunacy. The toppings the top, the fillings the fill, haters gonna hate, ballers gonna ball, rollers gonna roll and if a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around, only the badgers will hear it.

If anyone is interested, I take my jacket potato filled with chicken,bacon and mayonaise. And i like it topped with cheese.

well now you are taking this thread to another level.

what if you are having macaroni and cheese. Although the cheese is the topping, it is also the filling. what then, ha,,, what then.

Is it Macaroni Cheese or Macaroni and Cheese??? If it's Macaroni Cheese then the cheese is the topping and the cheese sauce is the filling. Seemples Wink

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

Stag Change this what else will get changed ? If somebody is stupid enough to come onto a rugby forum expecting not to find out the score then they are extremely naive.

by BATH_BTGOG Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:23 pm

I don't want to spoil it for fellow fans but I'm not making them go onto a rugby forum site during the worldwide showcase event for the sport, of course the scores are going to be mentioned, thats what rugby fans do.

It just seems over the top because one fan had a game ruined, but I agree with Cymroglan its OTT.

Is it time for bed yet as my bodyclock is all over the place, thats the price for being a dedicated rugby fan during a SH world cup! Shocked

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:23 pm

Comfort wrote:
greybeard wrote:
Comfort wrote:If anyone is interested, I take my jacket potato filled with chicken,bacon and mayonaise. And i like it topped with cheese.

So the cholesterol is a moderator?

The weight gained is the moderator, the cholesterol is admin!

wait, weight, which has more power, the admins or mods?

All i know is, Im hungry

Actually I think your doctor is the moderator, who tells you your cholesterol is too high. The admin is the guy with the big scythe who says "too late, you should have listened to the doctor"

by Comfort Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:24 pm

biltongbek wrote:
Comfort wrote:Think of your thread as a jacket potato.

You tell everyone that your having a jacket potato (you do this by posting the thread).

You tell everyone what your topping was (this is the thread title).

Then in the body of the thread you explain the filling (the score/opinions etc)

I mean would you ever have you filling above your topping? No, thats lunacy. The toppings the top, the fillings the fill, haters gonna hate, ballers gonna ball, rollers gonna roll and if a tree falls in the woods and no-one is around, only the badgers will hear it.

If anyone is interested, I take my jacket potato filled with chicken,bacon and mayonaise. And i like it topped with cheese.

well now you are taking this thread to another level.

what if you are having macaroni and cheese. Although the cheese is the topping, it is also the filling. what then, ha,,, what then.

Bill, no-one in my little world eats Mac and cheese, its the devil for the very reason you mention! devil

If i cant explain a seemingly different situation with an analogy of the food, it doesnt exist. Chef

by **Biltong** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:26 pm

Yeah, i hate these early morning rises. It messes with my work, i can't sleep, I can't eat. It's just rugby, rugby, rugby and no scores. Shocked

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:26 pm

You can stay away from the rugby forum and I'm sure that not all of the mods are rugby fans.

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:26 pm

Cymroglan wrote: Stag Change this what else will get changed ? If somebody is stupid enough to come onto a rugby forum expecting not to find out the score then they are extremely naive.

And if others get upset just for being asked to be courteous they're being a little selfish, no?

by Comfort Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:26 pm

guys, lets not get carried away, this is a serious debate about food. lets not let scores and thread titles get in the way of this.

Mods, would you rather have a scythe or a stethoscope?

And grey, is this your way of calling me fat? boxing

by red_stag Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:27 pm

Once again Cymro - in what way will this affect you. I think I've asked 4 times now and not once have you given given any ways that this will diminish your 606 experience.

BTW- EPIC jacket potato discussion. As a Munster fan potatoes are close to my heart.

by Cymroglan Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:28 pm

Being asked is one thing being threatened with a ban if you don't comply is another.

by **Biltong** Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:29 pm

comfort, getting back to the topic. do you have a recipe for yorkshire pudding and the gravy that goes with it?

I had it once in my life and really enjoyed it, now i am not sure if it is part of welsh quisine but here's hoping.

by Mad for Chelsea Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:30 pm

whoah this has got seriously out of hand. What started out as a polite and reasonable request has turned into threats of bans, etc.

Seriously, what the guy's asking is just that you don't put the score of the match in the title of your article. He's not asking you not to discuss the match, or the score, just not to mention it in the title so that people who haven't yet seen the match don't catch a look at the score just by scrolling through the main page (i.e. not even going onto the rugby board). I don't see anything unreasonable in this, and really don't get why some (yes, BATH_BTGOG and Cymroglan, I'm looking at you) take it as an insult to their human rights...

by greybeard Tue 20 Sep 2011, 4:30 pm

Cymroglan wrote:Being asked is one thing being threatened with a ban if you don't comply is another.

It started off with being politely asked by a fellow poster.

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