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Post by KO-KING Sun 23 Oct 2011, 6:16 pm

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On paper a exciting fight, which i see Burns winning about 116-112 on scorecards.
However burns is a 5/4 underdog in this fight, Is there something that am missing?
Katsidis is a tough fighter with good power but is a contender level fighter where as Burns in my opinion is World Class.

I dont see katsidis as being the bigger man although Burns is coming up he was a Vey big Super Featherweight fighter. Is there a reason why Katsidis is the favourite that am not seeing and who do you guys see winning this?

Burns has this one Right?

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Post by KO-KING Sat 05 Nov 2011, 11:31 pm

I guess to answer my original post, I wasn't missing anything.

That Groves vs Smith fight had a early stoppage, smith wasn't that badly hurt. Groves would have still won but the fight should have gone on.

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Post by Dass Sat 05 Nov 2011, 11:39 pm

Smith couldn't stand he was complaining about the stoppage while falling backwards. Don't really have any problem with that stoppage.

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Post by KO-KING Sat 05 Nov 2011, 11:41 pm

Dass wrote:Smith couldn't stand he was complaining about the stoppage while falling backwards. Don't really have any problem with that stoppage.
I thought that was because of the referee screwing up his balance by holding himm

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Post by Dass Sat 05 Nov 2011, 11:44 pm

Nah his legs were gone, if you watch when he stands after the first KD his legs are doing little jumps as there's nothing there. His mind was still fine but not his legs. That's why the second shot sent him down so easy, wasn't even that good a shot just anything would have put Smith over with his legs like that.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 05 Nov 2011, 11:46 pm

KO-KING wrote:
Dass wrote:Smith couldn't stand he was complaining about the stoppage while falling backwards. Don't really have any problem with that stoppage.
I thought that was because of the referee screwing up his balance by holding himm

Not because he got caught high on the head?

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Post by KO-KING Sat 05 Nov 2011, 11:48 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:
KO-KING wrote:
Dass wrote:Smith couldn't stand he was complaining about the stoppage while falling backwards. Don't really have any problem with that stoppage.
I thought that was because of the referee screwing up his balance by holding him

Not because he got caught high on the head?

And that, am not saying he wasn't hurt am saying he wasn't that Badly hurt to stop the fight in my opinion, the ref should have counted

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 12:48 am

Got proved wrong on this one... Burns great performance

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:13 am

Personally I thought the Smith stoppage was a bit early. I'll have to watch it again a not more sober.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:17 am

Nah he was gone mate, His legs were all over the place, thats why he went down after a partially blocked shot straight after, nothing left, would have just taken a beating. Didn't know where he was in his corner, he was out of it mate.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:23 am

I was at the bar and missed it, only saw the replay, which was a bit selective. Fair play to Georgie boy, he's made a statement in taking seven rounds less than the amazing horse-faced boy took. I was worried Groves might be dragged into Smith's fight, but the boy done good.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:25 am

Was cracked in the first but yeah, was fantastic.

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:26 am

Good thing to see after that shot in the first was how angry Groves was with himself, he knew what he'd done wrong and looks like the kind of fighter who can fix those those mistakes during a fight.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:28 am

Yeah I know, looked absolutely livid with himself didn't he!

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:02 am

Dass wrote:Good thing to see after that shot in the first was how angry Groves was with himself, he knew what he'd done wrong and looks like the kind of fighter who can fix those those mistakes during a fight.

Gotta say, I like Groves a lot. Not anywhere near D4/Pacquiao levels, but he's one to watch.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:03 am

Balti your still up as well. Been drinking tonight?

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:14 am

Yes mate. Just got in, gotta try stay up for Bute Johnson.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:21 am

BALTIMORA wrote:Yes mate. Just got in, gotta try stay up for Bute Johnson.

Good darts fair do RedWine

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:23 am

Watching Mythbusters. The redhead in that is tip top.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:25 am

You know the fight is on now dont you?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:26 am

You do know it's the tenth round...?

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:27 am

Now?? Ah, urine.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:28 am

Bute winning I assume?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:29 am

~By a country mile might even stop him.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:31 am

You havnt missed much Balti to be honest

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Post by bellchees Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:34 am

BALLS! Why is Bute Johnson on so early?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:35 am

Nah Bute going through the gears and beating back Johnson every time. Easy fight, has done this far more impressively than Froch may add.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:35 am

In Canada

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:36 am

How tall is Bute? He looks huge compared to Johnson. I like Johnson, he always gives a decent account of himself, he provides a challenge, but not particularly dangerous anymore.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:36 am

Full credit to Johnson though, still going for the knockout though, tough guy!

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:37 am

Like old boots.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:38 am

6"2 I think.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:39 am

Johnson's at the stage now where he has such a wealth of experience that he knows exactly how to pace himself, and how to make the other guy work for it. Guys like him are under-rated.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:39 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:6"2 I think.
That's quite big for a SMW at the moment.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:40 am

Has Johnson ever looked beat up?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:41 am

Just looked on boxrec 6"1and a half. he is tall and knows how to use his size which is important.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:43 am

The guy is something else (Johnson) just a tough tough guy, knows how to not take shots 100% clean always gives a good account of himself and has a good ledger of wins on him as well, sort of in a similar to the Katsidis' of this world, you know when you beat him you have been in a fight, 'cept Bute here breaking him down rather easily.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:45 am

Yeah I noticed he looked a good bit taller at the weigh-in/face-off. Fair play, he's put on a good performance. It's tempered a bit by the fact Johnson's just lost to Froch.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:48 am

Was a bit of a naph fight but he was very solid, kept him at bay he knows exactly what he wanted to do and easily did it.

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:50 am

I didn't realise Johnson and Bute were good mates. That puts it in a bit of a different light.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:52 am

Think the analysts are being a bit harsh on Bute, think he clearly is the real deal but I do think he should have maybe pushed for the stoppage to be honest.

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:53 am

Yeah a slight disappointment of a fight with Johnson never really being allowed into it. The Angulo v Kirkland fight should be a interesting encounter later on, fancy Angulo myself.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:54 am

I went with Angulo could be over in seconds that one!

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:55 am

Allan Green on now!

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:55 am

Is that tonight too? Ah, the Mrs is gonna love me!

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:55 am

Dass wrote:Yeah a slight disappointment of a fight with Johnson never really being allowed into it. The Angulo v Kirkland fight should be a interesting encounter later on, fancy Angulo myself.

That's all good and well, but who do you think's gonna win..? Wink

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:57 am

Dass has a bit of a soft spot for him, nothing wrong with that Balti...

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:59 am

You mean you watch it for the fighting???

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 3:01 am

Whats wrong with Greens legs?

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Post by BALTIMORA Sun 06 Nov 2011, 3:04 am

I'm saying nothing. Two sweaty muscly blokes, going at it..?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 3:05 am

Haha, but seriously are you watching this? Green is gone. It's over for him.

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