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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:27 pm

1.25million PPV buys and second-highest grossing non-heavyweight fight in history.

Thoughts?

Seemingly, his popularity seems to be boosted by his inactivity, his fight v Ortiz in September was his 3rd since beating Hatton. Whereas fellow P4P rival Manny has fought 8 times in the same period.

Cocky, yes but I too would call myself the 'face of boxing' Laugh if I was him.

Enough of all this though, unless he DARES go up to face Martinez, his next fight better be Manny. Unless (hope I'm wrong) he takes another year and a bit off, then no matter who, people will want to tune in.

SOURCE: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7160303/floyd-mayweather-victor-ortiz-fight-drives-more-one-million-buys


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:36 pm

Why are you presuming it's all about Mayweather's popularity!!!!!

Why did he pick Ortiz because he's Mexican...has a massive following..Mexicans are nothing if not loyal, has a legion of female followers because of his looks etc etc..and he's usually exciting...

Not all down to Mayweather pal...he picked Ortiz for a reason..

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Post by Scottrf Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:38 pm

Yeah, Ortiz is a PPV superstar, that's why his previous fight was on standard HBO. Of course it's about Mayweather.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:38 pm

Stay on trash talk..

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Post by Scottrf Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:39 pm

Why would I do that when I can educate you here?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:42 pm

Can't be bothered with a man sausage who hits and runs...

To anyone else the Mexican market is a huge one...for sure Ortiz needs a big name to sell..but a lot of the buyers no doubt were Mexicans wanting to see how there Man did..

Not guys who would normally buy Mayweather per se..

Ortiz carried an audience with him...

Why he was picked....

Would Bradley have sold 1.25 no siree..

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:44 pm

Course Ortiz played a part, but it was mainly Floyd.

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Post by Scottrf Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:45 pm

Would Ortiz sell 0.25 vs Bradley no siree.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:47 pm

Yes but in your thread you seem to be suggesting it was all Floyd...

Just making the point it wasn't.....

Mexicans are hugely loyal....If Haye was Mexican there'd be none of the garbage you had on here pre and post-Klits..

Save your one-liners for trash talk scotty..where you belong.

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Post by Scottrf Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:49 pm

I'd use more than one line if I needed it to disprove your points. Of course Ortiz matters a bit, but barely significant compared to Mayweather.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:50 pm

Well he didn't matter before did he....but he does now..

Some educating...thought Balti was bad!!!!

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Post by Scottrf Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:53 pm

Didn't say he didn't matter, don't lie, you get annoyed when others do. Your point is so plainly obvious as to not be worth stating then.

"The opponent affects sales to a less significant degree." Hand that man a Nobel Prize for his research.

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:54 pm

TRUSS... will Ortiz even do 500,000 ppv's in his next fight?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:58 pm

Not suggesting Ortiz is a ppv fighter...he is if you match him with the right guy though..

Ortiz was picked because Mexicans are great fans and worship their own stars....

For a guy like Floyd they'd shell out hard earned pay...to hopefully see their Man take out the p4p no 1.....

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 7:59 pm

In all honesty, I doubt it's a coincidence it was on Mexican Independence weekend Smile

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:15 pm

I would have scheduled it for 4th July myself...

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Post by All Time Great Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:27 pm

It was a stacked card, and Mexican independence day is a massive fight weekend in Vegas.

Morales, Canelo, Ortiz and Mayweather all on one PPV card- it was always going to be a success.

Actually went to the fight myself, atmosphere was immense!

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Post by Steffan Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:30 pm

Truss didnt go. His deportation restriction runs out next year though so who knows

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:33 pm

Oh how I'm jealous... just out of interest, I'm 18 next May (a month Floyd may fight in if he's to fight next year), do you have to be 18 or 21 to go to a fight in Vegas??

With the hotel booking etc I'm just wondering if next year finally, my dream of watching a Vegas main event may finally come true Smile

p.s how's it like as a city, nightlife is great I've been told lol

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Post by Steffan Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:36 pm

I think you can be any age as long as you rack up the readys

I went there for Calzaghe v Hopkins

Went there as a kid with my parents as well

Its not really a city. More like Disneyland for adults

Lots of drinking gambling and...erm...other entertainment. Take plenty of money

And I mean PLENTY

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:42 pm

Laugh point taken Wink


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Post by All Time Great Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:44 pm

jay-z wrote:Oh how I'm jealous... just out of interest, I'm 18 next May (a month Floyd may fight in if he's to fight next year), do you have to be 18 or 21 to go to a fight in Vegas??

With the hotel booking etc I'm just wondering if next year finally, my dream of watching a Vegas main event may finally come true Smile

p.s how's it like as a city, nightlife is great I've been told lol

Wait until you're 21 regardless. As you won't be able to get in the clubs or gamble on the tables! They'll even ask for ID if you're ordering a coke in the bars.

Nightlife is sensational (best in the world), take a look at Marquee Club in the cosmopolitan hotel.. It puts all London clubs to shame!

Getting tickets for the fight was actually really easy, MGM was still selling them a day before the fight. Although, a Pacquiao vs Money fight would probably sell out in an hour.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:46 pm

Steffan is right..there is America and there is Vegas.......Kind of like a separate entity.....

Everything is tailored to the buck there.....18 yrs old and bucks in hand you'll be welcomed..

However wait a while and choose your fight carefully....always need more dollars than you bargained for......the distractions are immeasurable...

But go..if you think England is multi-cultural..wait till you get there..


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Post by Steffan Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:50 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Steffan is right..

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:53 pm

All Time Great... I. Just. Can't.

I have to go next year.

Since 15 I've been wanting to go, but every time I've been America it's been to other Boston and NY visiting family Shocked (had no fun).

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Post by All Time Great Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:54 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Steffan is right..there is America and there is Vegas.......Kind of like a separate entity.....

Everything is tailored to the buck there.....18 yrs old and bucks in hand you'll be welcomed..

However wait a while and choose your fight carefully....always need more dollars than you bargained for......the distractions are immeasurable...

But go..if you think England is multi-cultural..wait till you get there..


No, that's not the case anymore. Your ID will be checked everywhere, even if you look 30.

But agreed, having been there 3 times in the last 5 years, it's a fantastic place for a young male adult! You'll be looking at an absoloute minimum of £1000 spending money if you go for 4 nights.

But you need to go in peak season and on the weekend. Generally through October to June, Vegas can be quiet. But it always comes alive during the weekends. Visit the grand Canyon (Arizona is next door) if you do get out there!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:57 pm

Been years since I've been....wants to go between them months anyway as Vegas is very hot between July and september..

Talking 110 degrees and higher..

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 8:58 pm

will do, always loved Grand Canyon (when seen on t.v)

Thanks for the advice/info All Time Great.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Oct 2011, 9:02 pm

watched Thelma and Louise about 20 times then I guess...

Take my advice though..If you go.. don't try and do an Evil Kneival..

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Fri 28 Oct 2011, 9:03 pm

Laugh OK

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