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Post by Fists of Fury Sat 29 Oct 2011, 12:57 pm

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Discuss today's T20 here fellas. Another India win do we reckon, or are England finally going to turn it on in the shortest of formats?

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 3:36 pm

Not a typical limited over pitch so batting won't be all easy , but if you know you only need 6 per over I reckon most teams would fancy this chase.

Chance for England to get some points from the tour ...

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 3:45 pm

Starting with Ashwin - interesting.

Different experience for Kieswetter...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 3:50 pm

spin from both ends to start with

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 3:53 pm

Apparently going to see a lot of spin here ...both ends.

Certainly a bit of turn there but I'm not sure this is such a great tactic from Dhoni...we shall see.

Now Jajeda's turn...

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 3:55 pm

...and a quick breakthrough...

I have been quite impressed with Jajeda in this series. Forgettable for Kieswetter though...

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Post by pensacric Sat 29 Oct 2011, 3:58 pm

kwetter is gone.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:01 pm

England don't look settled to they?

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:01 pm

KP lucky there ...three fielders converge and one drops it...

Needs to make them pay now.

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:05 pm

that really was an outrageous shot for 6

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:06 pm

Switch hit six ! Good to see the old KP magic...

...but Hales falls to a very fine catch.

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:08 pm

hales never really looked comfortable out there tbh

very good catch to get him out tho

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:12 pm

These young players India have brought in to the ODI team have done wonders for the fielding.
OK , one dropped catch but generally they've been excellent.

Good over there for KP and England Smile

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:14 pm

some seam. Pathan has taken some stick (depite the wicket) and I did say I thought India were a bowler light here...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:17 pm

more fine batting from KP, manipulating the field to perfection. It's a shame the crowd don't seem to be able to appreciate it...

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:21 pm

Pietersen murdering them now...if he stays for three or four more overs it is all over.

Patel joining in - looking good for England. <we need a crossed fingers icon>

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:27 pm

dismissive from KP

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:28 pm

where's Gregers when you need him?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:33 pm

KP reaches fifty, and then Patel plays a daft shot to throw his wicket away Doh

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:33 pm

Fine fifty KP clap

That drop really cost India...

Patel out now , but England are cruising this.

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:38 pm

dropping KP when he was on 1 could be the difference in this game as england would have been in trouble then

KP gone

surely even england cant blow it from here

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:38 pm

KP gone, switch hitting. Lovely innings though and England should really cruise home from here

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:39 pm

And KP goes - pity he couldn't see them home , but it gives Bairstow a chance to finish the job ...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:41 pm

Hmmm think that was a very lousy decision KP got there, right arm round, and didn't turn, so surely pitched outside leg

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:42 pm

when you are switch hitting what is leg stump tho Wink

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:43 pm

Yes I thought it pitched outside leg too ... umpire probably got confused with the switch stance thing Smile

Never mind , got his 50 , game's in the bag...

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:45 pm

that looked like a dodgy decision on the lbw shout on bopara as well

these umpires have not had a good game today

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:48 pm

well at least we avoided the whitewash

the win today doesn't paper over the cracks in the ODI team tho

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:48 pm

well that was easy Very Happy

so still the best T20 side in the world then...

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Post by alfie Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:49 pm

Good win England ... well done clap

Very good day for KP , Patel, Bopara and Finn in particular , but I'm sure they will all feel a bit better having finished a generally disappointing tour with a win...

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Post by rich1uk Sat 29 Oct 2011, 4:49 pm

and buttler again doesn't get to bat

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 29 Oct 2011, 5:09 pm

Good win.

what a shock to see the bbc so flat after getting so over the top when India won. sad.

Eng needed that. Overall a fantastic year. They still need to get the ODI format sorted, other forms look much better.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 5:10 pm

it's odd though isn't it that we're so good at tests and T20s and seem to have exactly the right tactics for both those forms (most often anyway), but for some reason we just can't get it right in the 50 over game.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 29 Oct 2011, 5:20 pm

yep, just do not seem able to do it.

i remember a time we were doing better at that but then poor at tests. We never seem to master all of them.

I'd rather be good at tests though.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 29 Oct 2011, 5:26 pm

2 out of 3 aint bad Wink

tests every time for me, I remember when we were the world's worst test side, that was awful Very Happy

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 29 Oct 2011, 5:56 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:it's odd though isn't it that we're so good at tests and T20s and seem to have exactly the right tactics for both those forms (most often anyway), but for some reason we just can't get it right in the 50 over game.

Mad for Chelsea - yes, it is odd. I wonder if the role of the captain is actually more important to the outcome of 50 over games than other international formats.

Tests are so long that class will generally out whilst t20s are so short that they'll be won by a mix of ability and good fortune.

I wouldn't die in a ditch defending this view but I think it's worth considering.

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Post by Fists of Fury Sat 29 Oct 2011, 6:10 pm

Sorry couldn't join you for this fellas.

Seems it was a good performance. Huge well done to KP and Finn, two of our standouts across this entire tour.

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Post by Guest Sat 29 Oct 2011, 6:58 pm

60,000 people in, and the ground still werent full!

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Post by Guest Sat 29 Oct 2011, 7:01 pm

Kieswetter's catch to get Rahane was stunning!

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Post by jbd349 Sat 29 Oct 2011, 8:06 pm

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Definately agree about captaincy - I have always thought that tactics play the biggest part in the 40 and 50 over games.

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Post by Guest Sat 29 Oct 2011, 8:34 pm

swanny's had 2 wins out of 3 as skipper, he is doing a very good job in broad's absence..

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Post by hodge Sun 30 Oct 2011, 6:40 pm

how many games has Broad won as captain

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Post by Mat Sun 30 Oct 2011, 7:18 pm

Of course not wanting to stir or anything, but I notice a distinct lack of Indian Supporters(and Gregers) on this discussion... Whistle

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Post by Fists of Fury Sun 30 Oct 2011, 7:22 pm

Haha Gregers said KP did ok...that's a huge compliment from him, given his irrational dislike of the big man!

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Post by m@tt Sun 30 Oct 2011, 10:40 pm

hodge wrote:how many games has Broad won as captain

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1 out of 2.
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Post by hodge Mon 31 Oct 2011, 1:23 am

50% vs Swann's 66.6%

Sack Broad Whistle

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