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Official 606V2 Top 15 Pound for Pound Rankings (Please submit VOTES)

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Post by All Time Great Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

It's time for the third official 606V2 POUND FOR POUND Top 15 rankings.

Rules:
-Only 1 post per 606 member.
-Only active fighters allowed (must of fought in the last 12 months unless officially retired eg David Haye)
-Outlandish listing’s will be DQ.

Principles:
Your Top 15 should be based as at the current point in time.

Point Scoring System:
Quite simple, #1 scores 15 points, #2 scores 14 points etc… I will tally up the totals by the deadline date and will present the results (using my Excel wizardry).

NOTE: PLEASE TRY AND USE FULL NAMES & LIST NAMES!

For the record, the previous Top 15 606v2 P4P rankings as at 27th July 2011 was:

1 Manny Pacquiao (1)
2 Sergio Martinez (2)
3 Nonito Donaire (3)
4 Juan Manuel Marquez (5)
5 Floyd Mayweather Jr (4)
6 Wladimir Klitschko (9)
7 Yuriorkis Gamboa (6)
8 Bernard Hopkins (12)
9 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (7)
10 Carl Froch (10)
11 Amir Khan (17)
12 Andre Ward (14)
13 Timothy Bradley (8)
14 Giovanni Segura (11)
15 Miguel Cotto (16)


16 Vitali Klitschko (15)
17 Toshiaki Nishioka (21)
18 Victor Ortiz (New)
19 Robert Guerrero (19)
20 Chris John (13)
21 David Haye (18)
22 Jean Pascal (re-entry)
T23 Lucian Bute (20)
T23 Brandon Rios (New)
T23 Roman Gonzalez (New)

Legend: (previous ranking- 18th April 2011)*

Deadline Tuesday COB pending on number of votes.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 31 Oct 2011, 7:32 pm

Matthysse? Surely you get disqualified for that? In recent times he's lost to Judah and Alexander although they were close and maybe a bit controversial he still lost.
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Post by 6oldenbhoy Mon 31 Oct 2011, 7:38 pm

1) Floyd Mayweather
2) Manny Pacquiao
3) Nonito Donaire
4) Sergio Martinez
5) Yuriorkis Gamboa
6) Wladimir Klitschko
7) Juan Manuel Marquez
8) Pongsaklek Wongjongkam
9) Andre Ward
10) Carl Froch
11) Timothy Bradley
12) Amir Khan
13) Bernard Hopkins
14) Giovani Segura
15) Robert Guerrero

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Post by All Time Great Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:06 pm

prettyboykev wrote:Matthysse? Surely you get disqualified for that? In recent times he's lost to Judah and Alexander although they were close and maybe a bit controversial he still lost.

We've also had Kell Brook today haha.

I'm thinking of implementing a rule whereby, if a fighter is only mentioned once by any poster he will not score any points and be automatically voided from the points scoring system.

I appreciate that may cause issues with your choice of Ioka, but I just want the best possible list and make this P4P list one of the premiums of any other forums.

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Post by Scottrf Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:07 pm

Why does 1 vote matter? If you just post the top 15 or even 20 they probably wont make it.

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Post by All Time Great Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:25 pm

Scottrf wrote:Why does 1 vote matter? If you just post the top 15 or even 20 they probably wont make it.

I like posting a full list- to show who just missed out on the top 15... Also, it shows how the fighters drop from the previous ranking.

Potentially could just do a top 20 though... Albeit, I think only 20 or so fighters have been mentioned so far.

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Post by Ironmiketyson1984 Mon 31 Oct 2011, 11:55 pm

1. Khan
2. Mayweathers
3. Choi Tseveenpurev
4. Froch
5. unman usay
6. Hopkins
7. Cotto
8. Tyson fury
9. Ward
10. Randell munroe

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 01 Nov 2011, 12:07 am

Ironmiketyson1984 wrote:1. Khan
2. Mayweathers
3. Choi Tseveenpurev
4. Froch
5. unman usay
6. Hopkins
7. Cotto
8. Tyson fury
9. Ward
10. Randell munroe

strong list

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Post by bellchees Tue 01 Nov 2011, 1:32 am

1. Donaire
2. Mayweather
3. Pacquiao
4. Gamboa
5. Martinez
6. Wonjongkam
7. Ward
8. Marquez
9. Nishioka
10. Segura
11. Bradley
12. Hopkins
13. Khan
14. Froch
15. Wlad

A bit different with Donaire at the top of the list but I really do think he is a special fighter. He hasn't got as many top wins as Manny or Floyd but for me right now he is the best around while the other two are just past their primes. Also he has been in with two guys at a real elite level and neither saw the halfway stage. From 9 to 15 there isn't much between them, very very close down there with Guerrero and Montiel just missing out.

Thank you to the man who brought Kazuto Ioka to my attention, never heard of him before but watched his fight against Oleydong Sithsamerchai and what a performance that was from a guy with less than 10 fights. Dealt with an experienced unbeaten southpaw world champion without much trouble at all. He really is one to watch.

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Post by trottb Tue 01 Nov 2011, 5:34 am

1 Manny Pacquiao
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr
3 Sergio Martinez
4 Nonito Donaire
5 Yuriorkis Gamboa
6 Juan Manuel Marquez
7 Giovanni Segura
8 Wladimir Klitschko
9 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
10 Andre Ward
11Toshiaki Nishioka
12 Timothy Bradley
13 Robert Guerrero
14 Amir Khan
15 Carl Froch

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Post by All Time Great Tue 01 Nov 2011, 8:35 pm

apologies, if there are anymore listings people would like to add please could they do it soon?

We've got an interesting sample thus far... The more votes, the better the results.

Cheers

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Post by Lance Tue 01 Nov 2011, 8:53 pm

1. floyd mayweather jnr
2. manny pacquiao
3. bernard hopkins
4. sergio martinez
5. nonito donaire
6. vitali klitschko
7. juan manuel marquez
8. yuriorkis gamboa
9. andre ward
10. timothy bradley
11. carl froch
12. wlad klitschko
13. eric morales
14. robert guerrero
15. amir khan

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Tue 01 Nov 2011, 9:43 pm

Lance wrote:1. floyd mayweather jnr
2. manny pacquiao
3. bernard hopkins
4. sergio martinez
5. nonito donaire
6. vitali klitschko
7. juan manuel marquez
8. yuriorkis gamboa
9. andre ward
10. timothy bradley
11. carl froch
12. wlad klitschko
13. eric morales
14. robert guerrero
15. amir khan

Why did you pick Morales?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 01 Nov 2011, 10:12 pm

morales recent loss to maidana is clearly better than khans victory over him, duh!

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Post by All Time Great Tue 01 Nov 2011, 11:45 pm

6oldenbhoy wrote:
Lance wrote:1. floyd mayweather jnr
2. manny pacquiao
3. bernard hopkins
4. sergio martinez
5. nonito donaire
6. vitali klitschko
7. juan manuel marquez
8. yuriorkis gamboa
9. andre ward
10. timothy bradley
11. carl froch
12. wlad klitschko
13. eric morales
14. robert guerrero
15. amir khan

Why did you pick Morales?

Interesting choice, I guess he is yet another alphabet champion at LWW now. I will be using a filter system to eliminate votes for miscellaneous fighters who don't appear often enough in the listings provided.

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Post by Lance Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:44 am

All Time Great wrote:
6oldenbhoy wrote:
Lance wrote:1. floyd mayweather jnr
2. manny pacquiao
3. bernard hopkins
4. sergio martinez
5. nonito donaire
6. vitali klitschko
7. juan manuel marquez
8. yuriorkis gamboa
9. andre ward
10. timothy bradley
11. carl froch
12. wlad klitschko
13. eric morales
14. robert guerrero
15. amir khan

Why did you pick Morales?

Interesting choice, I guess he is yet another alphabet champion at LWW now. I will be using a filter system to eliminate votes for miscellaneous fighters who don't appear often enough in the listings provided.

Regards

ATG

we are talking pound for pound though??? morales would lose to khan and probably lost to maidana, but he is fighting 2 weights above where he should be and fighting out of peak condition in order to target higher earning fighters. he would be the man at super-feather if he chose to and would give marquez a good shout at lightweight imo. surely you dont need to use a filter system to eliminate votes for fighters who dont appear often enough, as they shouldnt accumulate enough votes to make the final count?

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Post by The_Cobra Wed 02 Nov 2011, 11:50 am

1Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Sergio Martinez
4 Nonito Donaire
5 Yuriorkis Gamboa
6 Juan Manuel Marquez
7 Giovanni Segura
8 Wladimir Klitschko
9 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
10Toshiaki Nishioka
11 Bernard Hopkins
12 Amir Khan
13 Carl Froch
14 Tim Bradley
15 Robert Guerrero

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Post by kevchadders Wed 02 Nov 2011, 1:42 pm

prettyboykev wrote:We had the same names but in different orders except I left out Bradley and put in Ioka. I put Froch in my top 10 because i never wanted both Klitschkos in it.

That to me sound like the both worthy of a top 10 in your eyes, but you only want one of them in there?
Is that correct?

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Post by All Time Great Wed 02 Nov 2011, 2:16 pm

Lance wrote:
All Time Great wrote:
6oldenbhoy wrote:
Lance wrote:1. floyd mayweather jnr
2. manny pacquiao
3. bernard hopkins
4. sergio martinez
5. nonito donaire
6. vitali klitschko
7. juan manuel marquez
8. yuriorkis gamboa
9. andre ward
10. timothy bradley
11. carl froch
12. wlad klitschko
13. eric morales
14. robert guerrero
15. amir khan

Why did you pick Morales?

Interesting choice, I guess he is yet another alphabet champion at LWW now. I will be using a filter system to eliminate votes for miscellaneous fighters who don't appear often enough in the listings provided.

Regards

ATG

we are talking pound for pound though??? morales would lose to khan and probably lost to maidana, but he is fighting 2 weights above where he should be and fighting out of peak condition in order to target higher earning fighters. he would be the man at super-feather if he chose to and would give marquez a good shout at lightweight imo. surely you dont need to use a filter system to eliminate votes for fighters who dont appear often enough, as they shouldnt accumulate enough votes to make the final count?

Hi Lance,

I'm actually sold by your reasoning as this is meant to be a subjective list, and quite possibly if Morales could make the weight he could still be the man at super featherweight. However, at LW I think Guerrero and Marquez will have his number.

The 2 points he gets will get him into P20ish, which isn't totally obsurbed. Thanks for your post.

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