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Post by Big Paul Wed 09 Nov 2011, 10:49 pm

Seriously, WTF was he watching?

He's the boxing worlds equivilant of Blakey from On The Buses.

The board need to have a serious look at his scoring record lately. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Post by Scottrf Wed 09 Nov 2011, 10:50 pm

Was there a fight on tonight or is that a general comment?

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Post by hogey Wed 09 Nov 2011, 10:54 pm

The bloke needs to be relieved of his judging duties because that was a disgrace to score that a draw, and he already has past form for producing strange scorecards.

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Post by Scottrf Wed 09 Nov 2011, 10:55 pm

Sosnowski?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed 09 Nov 2011, 10:59 pm

What fight?

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Post by Scottrf Wed 09 Nov 2011, 11:01 pm

Ah, Lynes-Purdy

judge: Richard James Davies 110-119 | judge: Mark Green 112-117 | judge: Ian John-Lewis 114-114

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Post by The Galveston Giant Wed 09 Nov 2011, 11:08 pm

It annoys me the way he says watch the heads, don't know if he still says it not seen him in a while. Looks like he was watching a different fight.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 10 Nov 2011, 12:24 am

The Galveston Giant wrote:It annoys me the way he says watch the heads, don't know if he still says it not seen him in a while. Looks like he was watching a different fight.

Usually is.

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Post by quentins_monkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 8:47 am

Wasn't Mike Perez supposed to be fighting on the undercard of this? Anyone know how he got on?

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Post by Daz Thu 10 Nov 2011, 8:54 am

Terrrible judging again from IJL!! It makes me so angry! His last 6 months have been terrible. He even give a fighter (can't remember his name) in prizefighter 30/30 for a fight when he got knocked down!

Joe Ainsworth possibly or something similar.

Decent ref but awful Judge.

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Post by KingMonkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 8:57 am

Atrocious judging!! It's bordering on criminal. I could watch that fight a hundred times from every seat in the house and not see what he has seen.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:17 am

quentins_monkey wrote:Wasn't Mike Perez supposed to be fighting on the undercard of this? Anyone know how he got on?

Perez beat Zack Page on points over 8 rounds.

He should have taken the Fury fight after Prizefighter if he wanted to kick on, he seems to have stalled badly.
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Post by sodhat Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:22 am

Page seemed like quite a durable guy when I saw him (get robbed) against Dallas.

I was impressed by Perez after prizefighter, but as you say he seems to have slipped off the radar a little bit now.

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Post by quentins_monkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:34 am

After Prizefighter would've loved to have seen Perez in with Fury - would've made (and would still make) for an interesting match up and one I couldn't pick a winner from (although basing that entirely on Perez's PF performance as haven't seen anything else of him).

Hopefully he can push forward and get some bigger fights so we can see how good he is...

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Post by Union Cane Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:37 am

I think Perez has missed the boat to be honest, Fury wanted the fight for the Irish heavyweight title after Chisora, but Perez didn't fancy it and Tyson has now gone up a level, I expect him to be chasing Dimitrenko for the Euro belt after the weekend.
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Post by Rowley Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:41 am

Don't know if this is the case with Perez but there are rumours with a lot of the Cubans that their commitment is not great, the freedoms they enjoy in the west are all a bit alien to them and they tend to go a bit over the top and fill their boots. Have certainly read the same with Luis Garcia who is based out of Ireland who looked absolute quality when he first went pro but has gone a little quiet since.

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Post by quentins_monkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:42 am

He is only 26 so could still get himself into contention for a fight with Fury later on...

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Post by KingMonkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:45 am

Sod Perez, he'll never amount to anything. What about Ian John-Lewis?!

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Post by Union Cane Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:48 am

I've never rated Ian John-Lewis, always found him to be quite dour, and resentful at being in Greavesie's shadow all the time.
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Post by Scottrf Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:55 am

rowley wrote:Don't know if this is the case with Perez but there are rumours with a lot of the Cubans that their commitment is not great, the freedoms they enjoy in the west are all a bit alien to them and they tend to go a bit over the top and fill their boots. Have certainly read the same with Luis Garcia who is based out of Ireland who looked absolute quality when he first went pro but has gone a little quiet since.
Think you meant to post that on your Waingro account.

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Post by Rowley Thu 10 Nov 2011, 9:57 am

Did think the word quality had become a bit unusable on here, but really couldn't be bothered to think of anything different. Maintain he is quality though

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Post by superflyweight Thu 10 Nov 2011, 10:37 am

Maintain he is quality though.

That should be "maintain he is quality though lol".

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Post by Rowley Thu 10 Nov 2011, 10:38 am

Never going to happen Superfly.

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Post by Jukebox Timebomb Thu 10 Nov 2011, 1:16 pm

If it wasn't for the knock down IJL would have scored the fight to Purdey!!!

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Post by KingMonkey Thu 10 Nov 2011, 1:20 pm

Staggering when you put it like that.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 10 Nov 2011, 1:32 pm

I couldn't believe it when he put a draw for that fight.

BBBofC need to investigate him ASAP.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 10 Nov 2011, 3:44 pm

rowley wrote:Don't know if this is the case with Perez but there are rumours with a lot of the Cubans that their commitment is not great, the freedoms they enjoy in the west are all a bit alien to them and they tend to go a bit over the top and fill their boots. Have certainly read the same with Luis Garcia who is based out of Ireland who looked absolute quality when he first went pro but has gone a little quiet since.

typical racism from you rowley, trying to turn the board against cubans now are we? disgusting behaviour.

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 10 Nov 2011, 3:49 pm

Imagine if you had IJ Lewis, Eugenia Williams and Roger Tilleman as judges......

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 10 Nov 2011, 4:08 pm

coxy0001 wrote:Imagine if you had IJ Lewis, Eugenia Williams and Roger Tilleman as judges......

that would mean sven ottke would beat lennox lewis

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Post by Big Paul Thu 10 Nov 2011, 5:44 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:I couldn't believe it when he put a draw for that fight.

BBBofC need to investigate him ASAP.

It's not like he hasn't been pulled for it before..............

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2011/04/ian-john-lewis-reprimanded-for.html

But the board need to have a serious look at his scoring, before the cards were read out , I said to my mate "I bet IJL has this in favour of Purdy"

Wasn't that wide of the mark. Very Happy

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 10 Nov 2011, 5:54 pm

Gets a lot of work Ian John Lewis doesn't he..?????????

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Post by Big Paul Fri 09 Nov 2012, 11:51 pm

Sorry for resurrecting a zombie thread but I am absolutely, utterly, incandescent with anger after this malteaser headed muppet has once again ruined what was shaping up to be a decent fight, I cycled 15 miles to a mates to watch this and I'm bloody furious, so feck knows how Enzo and his camp must feel, I know he has been investigated before by the BBBoC, but surely this has to be the final straw, they guy is an incompetent egomaniacal idiot who shouldn't be allowed to referee two 7 year olds having a playground scrap let alone a professional title fight, he should be sacked at the earliest opportunity.

The man is a compete and utter moron.

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Post by BallchinianMuffwig Sat 10 Nov 2012, 1:14 am

Was it Ian John Lewis who stopped the Paul McCloskey-Corley fight a bit early? (not that we care about McCloskey the way we do about Enzo though, right?) Wink

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 10 Nov 2012, 9:18 am

BallchinianMuffwig wrote:Was it Ian John Lewis who stopped the Paul McCloskey-Corley fight a bit early? (not that we care about McCloskey the way we do about Enzo though, right?) Wink

No complaints about the Mcloskey stoppage, he had been taking punches flush from round 1, he also get rocked badly.

The Enzo one was a complete joke!

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sat 10 Nov 2012, 1:36 pm

Someone is going to spark IJL one day for stopping them like that, and I won't blame them when they do

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sat 10 Nov 2012, 1:55 pm

Daz wrote:Terrrible judging again from IJL!! It makes me so angry! His last 6 months have been terrible. He even give a fighter (can't remember his name) in prizefighter 30/30 for a fight when he got knocked down!

Joe Ainsworth possibly or something similar.

Decent ref but awful Judge.

I remember that score card, was it that clown IJL? That was an absolute farce!!!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:03 pm

The guy has no kids just dogs........

So when he makes a cockup he can't see it from the other side....and how it hurts...what he is harming....... because he lacks a paternal instinct..

Never trust a guy who isn't good enough to have kids..

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:10 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:The guy has no kids just dogs........

So when he makes a cockup he can't see it from the other side....and how it hurts...what he is harming....... because he lacks a paternal instinct..

Never trust a guy who isn't good enough to have kids..
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Ok Truss... Good reasoning.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:18 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:The guy has no kids just dogs........

So when he makes a cockup he can't see it from the other side....and how it hurts...what he is harming....... because he lacks a paternal instinct..

Never trust a guy who isn't good enough to have kids..

God you are an idiot, sometimes. Haha, You have kids so blahblahblah

Laughable logic

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:20 pm

It's not laughable..it's a proven fact......You're a more likely to be fairminded..

A survey done in a America backed this up.....The greatest Country in the World...

You two seed-less are you???

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:23 pm

Well, I'm 20, don't intend on having kids anytime soon. Watch Jeremy Kyle, they all have about 15 kids, none appear to be fair minded, however.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:25 pm

You watch Jeremy Kyle...

My logic and wise words are lost on you then!!! Cool

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:29 pm

I have seen episodes.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sat 10 Nov 2012, 2:30 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:It's not laughable..it's a proven fact......You're a more likely to be fairminded..

A survey done in a America backed this up.....The greatest Country in the World...

You two seed-less are you???

Not arguing that parents have more of a paternal instinct, I am saying it doesn't matter in boxing.

Don't quote American studies - after your laughable election pagent nobody is going to take you or an American study seriously.

America - the greatest county - greatest military . . . BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Did another American study tell you that?

It's always fun with you on the board, Truss

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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 10 Nov 2012, 3:28 pm

KingMonkey wrote:Sod Perez, he'll never amount to anything. What about Ian John-Lewis?!

what are you crazy? i think perez is the best heavy we've got at the minute, and its criminal that he has been so inactive. hes managed to land a fight on the same night fury fights, only he is facing ruslan chagaev- a win over him and i think fury will be forced to fight him in his next fight, he based in ireland so it would sell, and we all no how he's been struggling.

fully expect perez to beat chageav and fury in next 2 fights and then the worlds his oyster. i also think he'd beat vitali.

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Post by Rich1066 Sat 10 Nov 2012, 8:13 pm

I can't and won't defend the stopage that IJL did. Just a point to make to truss, IJL does have a daughter. I know IJL, I saw him today. He told me when I asked him abou the stoppage that on the first right hand he saw enzo's eyes roll and then the other punches go in. That's why he stopped it. As soon as he did he said he realised enzo was alright. I hadn't seen the fight before talking to him but ultimately if he saw that then it's always better to stop early rather than late. Sometimes it's a good call sometimes not

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