How did you decide on your 606v2 name?

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Just for a bit of fun...

I did this artical back on the old 606 to try and find out how posters came by their various names. Quite a laugh at the time as some of the explainations were hilarious. I think it is time to remind everyone again.

Just to get the ball rolling: The two great loves in my life are Heavy Metal music & Leicester Tigers (don't tell the wife & kids!!!) so it was a case of putting the two together.

So Metal Tiger was born.

How did you get your monicker?

Anyone seen The Trip?

I'm an openside flanker... my name is Tye

aucklandlaurie wrote: Aslongasbut100ofus (see i didnt abbreviate it)
As a New Zealander reading about the declaration the thing that is hard to put into context is that it was dated in 1320,that is 400 years before white man had even seen New Zealand, youre history is so complete, whereas we are just so last week.

Fortunately Auckland not all us Kiwis are white. I was born in NZ but by wife, kids, mum and dad were all born in China. Strangely grandfacther and greatgrandfather while born in China lived in NZ. Anway first mention of my surname in China relates to the number 1 student of Kong zi also known as Confucius circa 551BC.

Given the growing asian population in Auck we might was well latch on to a bit of asian history with our dim sum.

When I signed up on the old 606, my user name was etienne_lantier after the protagonist of Germinal by Emile Zola; the problem with that was that people assumed I was a Frenchman. So I changed it to luckless_pedestrian after a line from 'Don't Take Me Alive' by the peerless Steely Dan. It's not my favourite song of theirs, but that's where I got the name.

Hollbeck Ghyll wrote:Anyone seen The Trip?

Is that the Jack Nicholson film? I haven't seen it, is it any good?

I wish I was as classy as you lucky!

luckless_pedestrian wrote:

Hollbeck Ghyll wrote:Anyone seen The Trip?

Is that the Jack Nicholson film? I haven't seen it, is it any good?

Nah, the thing with Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon that was on the BBC last year. Really funny. They go round Northern England as fictional versions of themseleves, eating in fancy restaurants, and one of the places they stay at is called holbeck ghyll. They think it sounds like the name of some grumpy old man, and spend a few minutes saying all the old manish things he would say/do. Even though I'm still at uni, thought it suited me

Smirnoffpriest wrote:I'm a Welsh speaker and am always amazed at the differences between Irish/Scottish Gaelic and Welsh. Especially when there are similar words between Welsh, Cornish and Britton.

That's because Welsh is not actually Gaelic Celtic... it's a Brythonic Celtic language that was spoken widely across England, Wales & Britton before the Romans showed up. After the later Saxon migration & settlements (once the Romans had bogged off) the language slowly fell into disuse in most of England, apart from Cornwall.

Scots Gaelic is more closely related to Irish Gaelic as the Brythonic tribes in Scotland were conquered by repeated irish invasions and the celts driven out.

Glas a du wrote:I wish I was as pretentious classy as you lucky!

Right, that's it, I'm never inviting you to my local brasserie now!

nganboy wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote: Aslongasbut100ofus (see i didnt abbreviate it)
As a New Zealander reading about the declaration the thing that is hard to put into context is that it was dated in 1320,that is 400 years before white man had even seen New Zealand, youre history is so complete, whereas we are just so last week.

Fortunately Auckland not all us Kiwis are white. I was born in NZ but by wife, kids, mum and dad were all born in China. Strangely grandfacther and greatgrandfather while born in China lived in NZ. Anway first mention of my surname in China relates to the number 1 student of Kong zi also known as Confucius circa 551BC.

Given the growing asian population in Auck we might was well latch on to a bit of asian history with our dim sum.

The one thing I truly enjoy living in the NYC area (albeit temporary) is the mix of backgrounds we have here. Having people who are recent immigrants, or first/second generation Americans makes the melting pot concept real. And with few exceptions, no one has a problem (just the opposite really), except wanting to be invited to the many holidays people celebrate. This is truly great. It must be a bit hard to find the balance between keeping the ties to the old country and being a proper citizen of your birth country. But these ties are important.

Over here in New Jersey, I have that "oh, so cute and elegent" Brit accent (except for the Scots, and that Birmingham thing, they can't tell the difference between/betwixt us). And the women love it, especially when I embellish it. "Oh, Doctor, you are soooo witty and caring". Heehee. "Thank you, my dear, and you look absolutely lovely today. And Please call me Grey, as all my close friends do". Poopie like that.

It completely masks my basic shallow nature. And that trancends all race, nationality, and language spoken to the real global commomality: I am a dude.

nganboy wrote:first mention of my surname in China relates to the number 1 student of Kong zi also known as Confucius circa 551BC.

How cool is that?!

Biltongbek

Biltong - a popular dried meat snack.

Bek - talkative mouth.

Metal Tiger wrote:

Smirnoffpriest wrote:I'm a Welsh speaker and am always amazed at the differences between Irish/Scottish Gaelic and Welsh. Especially when there are similar words between Welsh, Cornish and Britton.

That's because Welsh is not actually Gaelic Celtic... it's a Brythonic Celtic language that was spoken widely across England, Wales & Britton before the Romans showed up. After the later Saxon migration & settlements (once the Romans had bogged off) the language slowly fell into disuse in most of England, apart from Cornwall.

Scots Gaelic is more closely related to Irish Gaelic as the Brythonic tribes in Scotland were conquered by repeated irish invasions and the celts driven out.

I thought they had been assimilated rather then been driven out, in common with England. It was battles with the Saxons of Northumbria that the main battles of Brythonic legend (Taliesin and Aneurin) concentrate on, although it is quite possible that the Old North was unable to withstand the Gaels and Northumbrians in addition to Viking raids into what is now Cumbria.

From the west of Ireland.

Used to live in the west midlands.

To me west is the best,( although living in Bournemouth isnt bad at all).

westisbest, I'd always assumed you were from west Wales - 'West is best' was one of the late, great Ray Gravell's favourite sayings.

Scottish Gaelic is a derivative of Irish. Its most similar to the Donegal dialect, as thats where the majority of those who colonised the west of Scotland - what was Dalriada - originated from. Scottish Gaelic just changed due to the geographical seperation of the two. Why the picts disappeared from the north and east of scotland is a bit of a mystery, and they were the group of brythonic speakers in the north.

luckless_pedestrian wrote:

Glas a du wrote:I wish I was as classy as you lucky!

Right, that's it, I'm never inviting you to my local brasserie now!

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What! Why? What have I done?

Mind you don't you think it would be a bit obvious if two blokes walked unto a ladies underwear shop.

But then, there were a lot of Scots who in turn re-settled in the North of Ireland. That's where the language derivation seems a bit muddled for me. The linguistic movements are a bit strange. Breton is close to Welsh, yet separated by more distance. Interesting stuff.

I thought the Picts disappeared because they ate their young?

That would be a logical reason, but suspected Roman propaganda following a couple of bloody noses inflicted.

doctor_grey wrote:But then, there were a lot of Scots who in turn re-settled in the North of Ireland. That's where the language derivation seems a bit muddled for me. The linguistic movements are a bit strange. Breton is close to Welsh, yet separated by more distance. Interesting stuff.

I thought the Picts disappeared because they ate their young?

I told a ghost story along those lines before. Theres a place called the clootie well near inverness which was an old pictish shrine, where people would hang clothes from branches believing that as the clothese decayed, so would any illness they had. Its a pretty creepy place, and when I went there with a group of international students, I told them that the clothes were in rememberance of pictish baby sacrifices. It had just turned dark and worked perfectly

Sounds great. I wish you had taken my kids............

Cheers for the info on Gaelic/Welsh/Brythonic origins - I'd forgotten about being told about the big battles between the irish celts, the saxons and the southern celts and picts.

I always find it really interesting how the language of different nations (or 'peoples') are shaped by the histories, victories and trade routes of the different civilisations.

Such as English has very few originial words, but has assimilated lots of Welsh/Celtic, Norman, Latin, German (from it's royal family connections) and French (particularly in the use of it's laws and the aristocracy) - and English was widely spread because it was widely encourage to write it down and because of the Empire - while in Welsh fiction was shunned and the working class were discouraged from writing so the language mutated between the different regional dialects and slang and didn't spread.

But sorry this is a bit off point for a rugby forum - but as has been said West is Best as long as your talking about West Wales ...

Smirnoffpriest wrote:But sorry this is a bit off point for a rugby forum - but as has been said West is Best as long as your talking about West Wales ...

Nah, no worries. This is a great discussion. Let it go where it wanders.

One of my best mates was playing club cricket in Wellington about 10(ish) years ago. He was playing (for those that know) Easts 2 XI who had Carl Bulfin in their ranks – Carl being a short lived NZ player – who was coming back from injury and my mate was struggling against his pace. Anyway, my mate was getting a bit of lip from their Irish Wicketkeeper for not only being low in the score dept but also the looks category. Between balls the keeper launched into a tirade about my friend having the ‘face of a chewed mintie’. If you’ve been to NZ you’ll know what a mintie is and you’ll probably know (or guess) what it looks like when chewed.

The story made me laugh so much it seemed a good name to use!

I've not been so please enlighten me.

Didnt know that Luckless.

Well he was right.

westisbest wrote:Didnt know that Luckless.

Well he was right.

Grav's favourite line, and your moniker is marked out in white seating at Parc Y Scarlets.

Smirnoffpriest wrote:English has very few originial words, but has assimilated lots of Welsh/Celtic, Norman, Latin, German (from it's royal family connections) and French (particularly in the use of it's laws and the aristocracy)

Almost all European languages borrow heavily from Latin and Greek - it's by no means just English that does so. English borrows from German not because of the royal family / families but because the Saxons came from Germany.

Apologies - didn't mean to indicate that only English does it, just that I know a bit more about English than say French or German. It seems quite interesting to me that you can see what different tribes made up the modern nations we see today.

History's fascinating, Priest, no doubt about that. I'm reading about pre-Columbian America at the moment, which has nothing to do with this thread, but never mind.

The Britons were the original Celtic invaders to Britain and came through France and across from Brittany. That is one family of languages and hence the relationship with Wales/West of England and Brittany. Lots of names of places, towns or areas are the same in both Brittany and the West of Britain.

The Britons only made minor inroads to Ireland but were subsequently killed off.
The Irish it has been found came from Northern Spain and came to ireland not via Britain or France but oversea and are mostly related to the Basques. As has been pointed out moved subsequently into Scotland over time. The bagpipe and Kilts are as much traditionally Irish as they are Scottish but in both cases the Scots can feel free to lay claim to them.

Gaelic (which translates to Irish) spoken in Scotland and Ireland are just different dialects.

DOD tell the truth...did you just make that up?

I'm still gutted that popty ping isn't the real name for a microwave in Welsh.

One of life's disappointments.

Oh, and my user name is, of course, a Captain Beefheart reference.

Nice - Rory Gallgher and Cpt Beefheart - there's some good music tastes here - wonder why I haven't seen anyone names H from Steps yet...

roddersm wrote:DOD tell the truth...did you just make that up?

Its the current thinking in historical terms if thats what you mean. What part do you find unbelieveable?

DOD wrote:

roddersm wrote:DOD tell the truth...did you just make that up?

Its the current thinking in historical terms if thats what you mean. What part do you find unbelieveable?

Not unbelieveable DOD just a very selective and simpleified version of events. Where do the norse fit in if the Irish all originate from Northern Spain?

Mine is an abbreviation of one of my nicknames and the last four numbers of my employee number ( yes very random, but easy to remember!!)
TBJ = The Boy Jones - Simples

Safe as Milk is a fine album.

roddersm wrote:

DOD wrote:

roddersm wrote:DOD tell the truth...did you just make that up?

Its the current thinking in historical terms if thats what you mean. What part do you find unbelieveable?

Not unbelieveable DOD just a very selective and simpleified version of events. Where do the norse fit in if the Irish all originate from Northern Spain?

Am just talking about it from a language point of view. But if you look at the extensive DNA testing done recently its like 84% of the island has Celtic origins (related to the Basque) with strong concentrations in the South and West in the East and North there is more influence from the Norman/Norse side but its still only a relatively small percentage.

im from dublin and my name is dave. boring beyond belief.

may spruce things up and get locked out and rebrand myself

I'm afraid my username is similarly boring, I suppose I ought to go for something a bit more leftfield really!

DOD wrote:
Am just talking about it from a language point of view. But if you look at the extensive DNA testing done recently its like 84% of the island has Celtic origins (related to the Basque) with strong concentrations in the South and West in the East and North there is more influence from the Norman/Norse side but its still only a relatively small percentage.

fair enough dod, thats interesting I'll have to have a wee read into the latest dna findings.

On another tangentical... tangent. I saw something recently researching the origins of Irish travellers. Taking samples of DNA from a broad section of the traveller community they expected to similarly find connections with nomadic tribes from Northern Spain or central Europe. There was zero to connect them. In fact when they cross referenced their world wide DNA database they could not positively link any other ethnic groups to Irish travellers.
It seems that they are indeed truly indiginous.

DOD wrote:The Britons were the original Celtic invaders to Britain and came through France and across from Brittany. That is one family of languages and hence the relationship with Wales/West of England and Brittany. Lots of names of places, towns or areas are the same in both Brittany and the West of Britain.

The Britons only made minor inroads to Ireland but were subsequently killed off.
The Irish it has been found came from Northern Spain and came to ireland not via Britain or France but oversea and are mostly related to the Basques. As has been pointed out moved subsequently into Scotland over time. The bagpipe and Kilts are as much traditionally Irish as they are Scottish but in both cases the Scots can feel free to lay claim to them.

Gaelic (which translates to Irish) spoken in Scotland and Ireland are just different dialects.

The Gaels in Ireland called themselves Scotts. When they went over to Western Scotland they called the people who lived there Scotts as a compliment. It stuck in Scotland but not in Ireland.

DOD, it gets more complicated. The Brythons, were a combination of two branches the central european branch and the Iberic branch. The Central Europeans were tall and fair skinned, whilst the Iberians were short and dark. I don't know where you Gaels get all the ginger from.

I thought the ginger was from the Gauls of Northern Europe - but I've always wondered about races like Celts that are predominately ginger - because the Ginger gene is the weakest, and (I believe) the black haired gene is the dominant, so it seems strange that so many red haired people would still exist.

its the same with p...p...p...percussionists.

Apparently a higher percentage of people in Ireland carry the ginger gene than anywhere else, even though red hair is more common in Scotland.

I’m not complaining, I like ginger girls.

Glas a du wrote:

DOD wrote:The Britons were the original Celtic invaders to Britain and came through France and across from Brittany. That is one family of languages and hence the relationship with Wales/West of England and Brittany. Lots of names of places, towns or areas are the same in both Brittany and the West of Britain.

The Britons only made minor inroads to Ireland but were subsequently killed off.
The Irish it has been found came from Northern Spain and came to ireland not via Britain or France but oversea and are mostly related to the Basques. As has been pointed out moved subsequently into Scotland over time. The bagpipe and Kilts are as much traditionally Irish as they are Scottish but in both cases the Scots can feel free to lay claim to them.

Gaelic (which translates to Irish) spoken in Scotland and Ireland are just different dialects.

The Gaels in Ireland called themselves Scotts. When they went over to Western Scotland they called the people who lived there Scotts as a compliment. It stuck in Scotland but not in Ireland.

DOD, it gets more complicated. The Brythons, were a combination of two branches the central european branch and the Iberic branch. The Central Europeans were tall and fair skinned, whilst the Iberians were short and dark. I don't know where you Gaels get all the ginger from.

But we are related closely with the Basques who have a high % of red heads as well. In terms of the different Gaels/Celts there were different groups/tribes as well in Ireland. Cant think of the names of the top of me head...

Yes well I don't know if the Iberian strain of the Brythons were the Basques and Catalans or another lot. They account for all the short harses in Wales though apparently. Mick snap, well...erm...I used to, before I was married like...

Saw a program on RTE about the genetics of Ireland and they went to northern Spain, everyone looked Irish. It was so bizarre.

Yeah Glas, my GF doesn’t know about my penchant for rusty’s, probably best to keep it that way, she’d have another reason not to like my ex…