Is the Super fight close?

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http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2011/11/manny-pacquiao-we-are-ready-once-he.html

WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao is ready to sign up to meet WBC belt holder Floyd Mayweather in Las Vegas on May 5th after admitting a unification deal is close to being agreed.


The 32 year-old eight-weight title holder has been constantly dogged by rumours of a clash with the American over a two-year period and it now seems that the time is right to finally show the fans who the best pound for pound fighter of this generation is.


"We are ready," Pacquiao told abs-cbnnews.com.


"If it pushes through, once he signs the contract then I'll sign the contract. Only the little things are being worked out and negotiations are almost done."


Mayweather, 34, has seemingly been the instigator of what will be the richest fight the boxing world has ever seen and even more so since Pacquiao’s under-par performance against Juan Manuel Marquez earlier this month.


The five-weight world champion even organised the date and venue with his own team before putting the fight forward to Bob Arum and Top Rank, initially angering the Top Rank CEO who was hoping to stage the bout at a stadium.


On thing for sure is that Mayweather v Pacquiao is now closer than ever to becoming a reality and fight fans will be able to see the biggest debate in boxing today unfold in front of them at the MGM Grand next year once the contracts are signed.



I have a sneaky suspicion that this will go ahead. Better get saving!

i think Floyd can keep going for years and years if he wants personally.

Couldn't have said it better myself Fists.

AlexHuckerby wrote:i think Floyd can keep going for years and years if he wants personally.

Hope he doesnt go Roy Jones on us. 2/3 fights and out. For good.

Union Cane wrote:Pacquiao is on the slide, it has lost it's lustre for me, should have happened already, to eventually get it on (if it happens) at this stage smacks of it being simply a money making exercise.

Completely agree, for this fight to have happended with everything perfectly in place, it would need to have been late 2009 early 2010 IMO.

Pac was at his peak during and just after the Cotto fight in my opinion. Judging by his last two outings, he is not the same fighter.

Mayweather has picked his moment, but now he must deal with the fact that if he wins, people will always say Pac was past his best.

Could still be very interesting, but it won't be the fight it could and probably should have been.

Still watch it though.

Floyd will never do that, he is far too concerned with legacy, and so he should be. Would hate to see some youngster whup him that wouldn't have touched him at his best.

I think Manny is on the slide a little yes Alma, looks far flatter footed and a bit slower around the ring. However, the distractions cannot be ignored, they are absolutely ridiculous and I'm not sure how he copes with it all. The politics, the endless amounts of over the top stalker fans, the tv stuff, the singing stuff, the list is endless. Must have some ill effects. Floyd, on the other hand, trains in a gym late at night with about 5 people around, I know which I'd prefer and which would allow me to focus more!

NathanDB10 wrote:

Union Cane wrote:Pacquiao is on the slide, it has lost it's lustre for me, should have happened already, to eventually get it on (if it happens) at this stage smacks of it being simply a money making exercise.

Completely agree, for this fight to have happended with everything perfectly in place, it would need to have been late 2009 early 2010 IMO.

Pac was at his peak during and just after the Cotto fight in my opinion. Judging by his last two outings, he is not the same fighter.

Mayweather has picked his moment, but now he must deal with the fact that if he wins, people will always say Pac was past his best.

Could still be very interesting, but it won't be the fight it could and probably should have been.

Still watch it though.

You see you say Mayweather has picked his moment, but what has come out recently is that the biggest stumbling block has been Mayweathers farcical promoter, Bob "Just go DIE!" Arum.

Fists of Fury wrote:Floyd will never do that, he is far too concerned with legacy, and so he should be. Would hate to see some youngster whup him that wouldn't have touched him at his best.

I think Manny is on the slide a little yes Alma, looks far flatter footed and a bit slower around the ring. However, the distractions cannot be ignored, they are absolutely ridiculous and I'm not sure how he copes with it all. The politics, the endless amounts of over the top stalker fans, the tv stuff, the singing stuff, the list is endless. Must have some ill effects. Floyd, on the other hand, trains in a gym late at night with about 5 people around, I know which I'd prefer and which would allow me to focus more!

No, no, not saying he would, hwoever I do think Floyd is clever enough to pick the fighters that he could take on and beat. But just saying that if he wanted to the guy could keep going on for years and probably stay unbeaten for a fair amount of time.

Pacman's promoter*

I think we can all agree the biggest stumbling block was this test nonsense which Mayweather fabricated, but the problem may well now turn out to be Bob this time round.

Speaking of tests, has Mayweather suddenly dropped this, or has Pacquiao agreed to take one?

Sorry I of course meant Pacqiaou's promoter*

Don't think he will ever drop it. Mosley had to take one, and I'm sure Ortiz did as well.

Well, I guess Manny may have realised that he might want to prove he isn't on PEDs or has submitted to it for the fight. Not that it's a big deal in my opinion, prove you're clean big deal. Makes you wonder a bit as to why he wouldn't want to submit to random blood testing.
This whole idea that it "gives Mayweather a psychological advantage" is a bit of phooey in my opinion.

Well, can't see him dropping it now as it'd leave him open to all kinds of criticism. I hope it doesn't drag out over that again though, it is so tedious. Just obey the commission, or let the random tests stop a couple days before, whatever.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Well, I guess Manny may have realised that he might want to prove he isn't on PEDs or has submitted to it for the fight. Not that it's a big deal in my opinion, prove you're clean big deal. Makes you wonder a bit as to why he wouldn't want to submit to random blood testing.
This whole idea that it "gives Mayweather a psychological advantage" is a bit of phooey in my opinion.

I don't see any psychological advantage, but it served as a reason not to fight Pacquiao a couple of years ago. In that case, it has done it's job effectively!

Fists of Fury wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Well, I guess Manny may have realised that he might want to prove he isn't on PEDs or has submitted to it for the fight. Not that it's a big deal in my opinion, prove you're clean big deal. Makes you wonder a bit as to why he wouldn't want to submit to random blood testing.
This whole idea that it "gives Mayweather a psychological advantage" is a bit of phooey in my opinion.

I don't see any psychological advantage, but it served as a reason not to fight Pacquiao a couple of years ago. In that case, it has done it's job effectively!

I agree, Pacquiao seems ripe for picking now which is why there is a chance this fight will happen now.

The Galveston Giant wrote:

Fists of Fury wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Well, I guess Manny may have realised that he might want to prove he isn't on PEDs or has submitted to it for the fight. Not that it's a big deal in my opinion, prove you're clean big deal. Makes you wonder a bit as to why he wouldn't want to submit to random blood testing.
This whole idea that it "gives Mayweather a psychological advantage" is a bit of phooey in my opinion.

I don't see any psychological advantage, but it served as a reason not to fight Pacquiao a couple of years ago. In that case, it has done it's job effectively!

I agree, Pacquiao seems ripe for picking now which is why there is a chance this fight will happen now.

Or maybe Pacquiao knows he's on the slide and wants to make sure he gets the pay day.

Bit of both probably, Kev! Can't imagine he is short of cash, though, but with all these hangers on and charities he gives to etc, can see why another £40 mil wouldn't go amiss!!

They would both be stupid to turn down the massive pay day this will bring.

Pains me to say it but Trussman could have had a point when he suggested that Pacquiao should under perform against Marquez in order to draw Mayweather out.

Could that be what has happened?

Union Cane wrote:Pains me to say it but Trussman could have had a point when he suggested that Pacquiao should under perform against Marquez in order to draw Mayweather out.

Could that be what has happened?

I find it very hard to believe that some one could under perform intentionally at world level. The danger of getting KO'd would be too great. His reputation and potential for super fights would go straight out of the window.

Yeah, don't think that was the case at all. Risked a loss far too much, though at least one of the judges seemed intent on him winning!!

Fists of Fury wrote:Yeah, don't think that was the case at all. Risked a loss far too much, though at least one of the judges seemed intent on him winning!!

Haha!!

Fists of Fury wrote:Yeah, don't think that was the case at all. Risked a loss far too much, though at least one of the judges seemed intent on him winning!!

116-112 was disgusting.

Well yeah, said it elsewhere and don't want to go into it again, but I can live with a round either way or whatever, not Manny by 4 rounds, though. Garbage.

rowley wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

Come on Coxy! Get a little excited would ya! It's nearly Christmas - gotta have hope!

Christmas is the most depressing time of the year.

A time of year when you get to spend time with all the people who love you and exchange gifts and love with those people, can't understand why you wouldn't .....oh hang on.

I don't get along with my sister or dad all that well.

I enjoy everything about xmas once it's all over and i get to go down the pub for numerous days on the bounce with friends.

Sadly the fight isn't happening this month, as seeing all the pachuggers crying would probably lighten my mood somewhat!

D4 would mysteriously disappear or tell anyone and everyone when the fight should have happened or some controversy with Pac's shoelaces causing him to lose the fight.

Really hope this fight can finally be made sooner rather than later. Will be totally unmissable. I Won't get too excited until its 100% confirmed though as this fight has been failing to get made for over 2 years now.

I'be seen on twitter mayweather repeatedly tweeting things like: "May 5th, lets do it" and "May 5th, sign the contract". Pacquiao has reportedly told Arum he wants mayweather next. Oscar was letting rip at Arum on twitter last night for blocking this fight and generally keeping all TR fighters in house. If the fighters want it - as it seems they finally both do - then the chances of it happening increase massively. I'll believe it when I see it, but it does seem to have suddenly become more likely.

Fists of Fury wrote:Bit of both probably, Kev! Can't imagine he is short of cash, though, but with all these hangers on and charities he gives to etc, can see why another £40 mil wouldn't go amiss!!

Manny has invested fortunes of his own dough into his political campaigns in the phillipines, and will need to continue to do so if he wants to remain in office - money talks over there and many of his opponents are wealthy families. Also he's been badly managed, with Arun taking a huge slice of his purses, GBP still getting a cut and I think Roach is on about 15%, so he's nowhere near as wealthy as he could/should be. He needs the mega bucks this fight brings. Add that to the struggle he had against Marquez which has clearly brought mayweather out of the woodwork and you have the reasons why this fight will most likely happen next.

has enough cash to just splash out on a nice 250k ferrari in the lead up to the marquez fight.

He might have got it on tic!

The reason why this fight will go ahead on May 5th is because of all the hard work of Arum. Give him his props. He deserves it. Why? Its simple. Arum sees Manny as beatable now. Better cash in with the biggest payday now than risk it being derailed by the next opponent and impartial judges.

If Pac had dismantled JMM, the fight wouldn't be happening in May. He would have milked Happy Manny for more dollars. What did Tex Cobb say about Arum again?

That cynical logic sort of works for me there has been people from Pacquiaos team saying it was Arum who stopped the fight happening.

prettyboykev wrote:That cynical logic sort of works for me there has been people from Pacquiaos team saying it was Arum who stopped the fight happening.

And now he's letting it happen. He sees his cash cow as beatable so why not cash in now. Strickly business.