Tonight's Boxing - Who's Watching? (No non-boxnation spoilers please.)

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Jarno Rosberg vs Manuel Alberto Pucheta next up.

All nighter for me.

lets hope the people of finland are fair

skimpton wrote:hel 9/4 Chis 4/9 bookies now firmly have chis winning

Bookies got the Marquez vs Pacman decision wrong as well.

Fists of Fury wrote:Del Boy took the last. Got to get the decision, a disgrace if he doesn't, in my view, and there have been too many of them in boxing lately.

I gave the last to Helenius. Landed more power shots that looked more effective.

Overall - I'd give the fight to Chisora, but I'd understand if it went the other way. He's away from home - and, even though he walked forwards, there were frequent occaisions where his output was landing on gloves or missing. Referee was hopeless/biased.

Jesus.

SD. Ah well. It was close.

Poor poor poor...

Chisora deserved that. He won that fight by 3 rounds for me.

What??!? Absolute joke, this sport drives me mad.

oxring wrote:SD. Ah well. It was close.

However - it wasn't the way I'd have given it.

Finland, the new home of the robbery.

NOOOOO

Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

I feel physically sick

joke, saw it coming a mile off after the second round.

this sport of ours is horrible sometimes.

I had Chisora by 5 rounds outworked Helenius. That kind of decision ruins boxing

now THAT was a robbery

I predicted Del Boy win. I wasn't wrong.

1 nice thing this fight has proved - Helenius is not the next big thing.

Terrible terrible terrible decision 3 rounds to Chisora easy, this can't keep happening all we keep talking about now are wrong decisions!!!

shocking decision.. chisora had that won on body work alone..

azania wrote:I predicted Del Boy win. I wasn't wrong.

You don't get points for that in the prediction league.

Why would anyone ever want to go and fight away from home - you can see why people don't do it!! They get stick for it, but it's probably right given that they get jobbed left right and centre.

Haye Valuev was about the only fair one we have seen in years!

im flagging hard now guys been a long day... dunno if i can manage cotto

Enzo's right that Chisora takes Fury out

Bring back fights to the finish.

What is the point! Judges must be accountable, some of them get away with murder!!

AlexHuckerby wrote:im flagging hard now guys been a long day... dunno if i can manage cotto

Man up - you're only 19. When I was 19, in heady days of yore, I'd go all night and be in lectures in the morning.

was a disgrace that though

Derek doesn't carry enough pop imo to be beyond euro level, maybe as he continues to lose weight he will hit harder as his hand speed should get better. Helenius looked dead at times and if chisora had a harcer punch he could have got a KO

Really was, Alex. Worst one in a while that.

heh didnt sleep for the friday then didnt sleep much last night and been working both days from 8.30am-7pm im gone

Dan Rafael reported as having it hugely to Chisora.

Warren promising to record an objection.

Rematch then?

I'm off gents.

To those brave chaps staying up for the duration - good luck and enjoy!

Catch you tomorrow for the fallout, keep it clean!

Night.

there has to be a rescore because that was a joke

night fists mate

oxring wrote:1 nice thing this fight has proved - Helenius is not the next big thing.

I said that in the begining of this thread (or was it another - regardless I said that anyway). You guys should listen to me more often.

if i stop commenting its cos i fell asleep

jaime moore beats SRR was enough to take away all the credibility away az

AlexHuckerby wrote:there has to be a rescore because that was a joke

Neither man helped himself. Its not the way I'd have scored it - true. But away from home - Chisora shouldn't have gone AWOL in those rounds. He gave the finn a chance he didn't deserve.

Secondly - Fury is probably a better boxer than we'd thought. I know - Chisora was woefully out of shape - however - Fury understood a simple need to exert physical dominance. Helenius, a taller man, allowed himself to be meekly pushed backwards. Half the time - pushed backwards without Chisora jabbing his way in?!!

Pathetic, really.

azania wrote:

oxring wrote:1 nice thing this fight has proved - Helenius is not the next big thing.

I said that in the begining of this thread (or was it another - regardless I said that anyway). You guys should listen to me more often.

Said it last year. Scottrf KO1 Azania.

Had Chsiora by 2 rounds in the end, had it level going into 9 and gave Chisora 9,10,11 before just giving Helenius the last due to his power shots.

Think Chisora was desperately unlucky tonight and didn't gas as much as I thought he would... though that might be just due to Helenius gassing even more. Chisora still needs to lose another stone or so for me.

oxring wrote:

azania wrote:I predicted Del Boy win. I wasn't wrong.

You don't get points for that in the prediction league.

Thats why I haven't joined it. Needs new system of scoring there.

azania wrote:

oxring wrote:1 nice thing this fight has proved - Helenius is not the next big thing.

I said that in the begining of this thread (or was it another - regardless I said that anyway). You guys should listen to me more often.

After the war chat and the overrated debate, especially after Johnson's fundamentals - I'm finding myself wondering whether I'm listening to you too much

A blind man throwing darts at a board is bound to hit the bullseye once in a while...

oxring wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:there has to be a rescore because that was a joke

Neither man helped himself. Its not the way I'd have scored it - true. But away from home - Chisora shouldn't have gone AWOL in those rounds. He gave the finn a chance he didn't deserve.

Secondly - Fury is probably a better boxer than we'd thought. I know - Chisora was woefully out of shape - however - Fury understood a simple need to exert physical dominance. Helenius, a taller man, allowed himself to be meekly pushed backwards. Half the time - pushed backwards without Chisora jabbing his way in?!!

Pathetic, really.

Chisora made Fury uncomfortable every time he threw. If he was fit for that fight he would have won, no doubt.

Freddie Roach had it 118-110 to Chisora in the Epix studio

agreed scott

KP4959 wrote:Freddie Roach had it 118-110 to Chisora in the Epix studio

That guy knows what he's talking about.

AlexHuckerby wrote:jaime moore beats SRR was enough to take away all the credibility away az

It would be but thankfully that ridiculous statement wasn't made by me. Jamie Moore couldn't beat an egg.

Scottrf wrote:

oxring wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:there has to be a rescore because that was a joke

Neither man helped himself. Its not the way I'd have scored it - true. But away from home - Chisora shouldn't have gone AWOL in those rounds. He gave the finn a chance he didn't deserve.

Secondly - Fury is probably a better boxer than we'd thought. I know - Chisora was woefully out of shape - however - Fury understood a simple need to exert physical dominance. Helenius, a taller man, allowed himself to be meekly pushed backwards. Half the time - pushed backwards without Chisora jabbing his way in?!!

Pathetic, really.

Chisora made Fury uncomfortable every time he threw. If he was fit for that fight he would have won, no doubt.

Correction - Chisora made Fury uncomfortable every time he landed. I don't necessarily disagree with the second sentence - but it ignores the point that most of Chisora's punches - even in the first 3 rounds when he wasn't totally gassed - where incredibly telegraphed and Fury was able to lean out of the way of them, for the most part.

azania wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:jaime moore beats SRR was enough to take away all the credibility away az

It would be but thankfully that ridiculous statement wasn't made by me. Jamie Moore couldn't beat an egg.

he would knock you out

oxring wrote:

azania wrote:

oxring wrote:1 nice thing this fight has proved - Helenius is not the next big thing.

I said that in the begining of this thread (or was it another - regardless I said that anyway). You guys should listen to me more often.

After the war chat and the overrated debate, especially after Johnson's fundamentals - I'm finding myself wondering whether I'm listening to you too much

A blind man throwing darts at a board is bound to hit the bullseye once in a while...

Hahaha. I study the fundermentals of all fighters before making my decision

I also said Haye would beat Vit. Watch this space. I'll make you a believer sooner rather than later.