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Benn v Mclellan reversed
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Hi all
So with the whole Benn - Mclellan saga being re surfaced recently and the documentary the other night it got me thinking more about the person Mclellan was and who he would have become if the outcome of that fight was reversed.
Mclellan was painted by Steward as the most violent man he had trained (words may differ) and the general consensus was he was a nasty piece of work. I believe it when it was said that he went to the fight with Benn with every intention to kill him in there and that he took that attitude with him to every fight.
Now afterwards upon knowing Mclellan was in hospital Benn said 'rather him than me' and to an extent I can relate to him there as I believe Benn only took the mind to win into that fight and nothing else. Mclellans sister had also previously stated she wished Benn dies and questioned how he could sleep at night knowing what he did to which we found out - not very well. There was a lot of emotion when he met Mclellan and it's never nice seeing a warrior cry, a clear indication of remorse.
Had the roles been reveresed I do not believe Mclellan would have been as impacted as Benn and tbh I think he would have gloated (maybe not in public but deffinately to his peers) over what he accomplished. From dog fighting to running over birds to punching his trainers teeth out "just because thats the type of person he was" just goes to show he was an emotionless human being with a thirst for violence. Just how would his sister react to Mclellan if Benn had become brain damged? sat on her dis-illusioned perch thats where!
Not one of us want to see injuries to the extent that Mclellan has endured, but out of the 2 in this particular fight he has recieved more charity then should the injury be the other way round.
My point of this article is that Benn has no cause to feel responsible for what happened - in my eyes he was fighting for his life against a nasty SOB and since has done more for his opponent then what he would have recieved.
"Rather him then me" - well for me too
Hi all
So with the whole Benn - Mclellan saga being re surfaced recently and the documentary the other night it got me thinking more about the person Mclellan was and who he would have become if the outcome of that fight was reversed.
Mclellan was painted by Steward as the most violent man he had trained (words may differ) and the general consensus was he was a nasty piece of work. I believe it when it was said that he went to the fight with Benn with every intention to kill him in there and that he took that attitude with him to every fight.
Now afterwards upon knowing Mclellan was in hospital Benn said 'rather him than me' and to an extent I can relate to him there as I believe Benn only took the mind to win into that fight and nothing else. Mclellans sister had also previously stated she wished Benn dies and questioned how he could sleep at night knowing what he did to which we found out - not very well. There was a lot of emotion when he met Mclellan and it's never nice seeing a warrior cry, a clear indication of remorse.
Had the roles been reveresed I do not believe Mclellan would have been as impacted as Benn and tbh I think he would have gloated (maybe not in public but deffinately to his peers) over what he accomplished. From dog fighting to running over birds to punching his trainers teeth out "just because thats the type of person he was" just goes to show he was an emotionless human being with a thirst for violence. Just how would his sister react to Mclellan if Benn had become brain damged? sat on her dis-illusioned perch thats where!
Not one of us want to see injuries to the extent that Mclellan has endured, but out of the 2 in this particular fight he has recieved more charity then should the injury be the other way round.
My point of this article is that Benn has no cause to feel responsible for what happened - in my eyes he was fighting for his life against a nasty SOB and since has done more for his opponent then what he would have recieved.
"Rather him then me" - well for me too
No1Jonesy- Posts : 306
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
Scottrf wrote:If the foxes chose to get hunted I wouldn't have a problem.milkyboy wrote:Am i the only one who finds a sense of irony in a bunch of boxing fans, a sport where people are paid to batter each other, getting all sensitive about fox hunting
i hate fox hunting myself scott, because its people enjoying the sport of killing an animal for fun as opposed to food. But then the foxes don't choose to get shot or poisoned either... nobody bothered to ask them their preferred mode of execution. I found the spat on the subject rather amusing to appear on a boxing board, but clearly there's some sensitive souls here.
You and i both choose to watch a 'sport' that despite references to the sweet science is fundamentally 2 guys beating each other up and leads to numerous heath issues. If no-one paid for it or supported it, it wouldn't happen. We aid and abet legalised gbh. That's ok of course because it keeps the participants off the streets and out of our jails, so we don't have to shoot them or poison them or worse still support them with our taxes.
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
Amateur boxing would disagree.milkyboy wrote:You and i both choose to watch a 'sport' that despite references to the sweet science is fundamentally 2 guys beating each other up and leads to numerous heath issues. If no-one paid for it or supported it, it wouldn't happen. We aid and abet legalised gbh. That's ok of course because it keeps the participants off the streets and out of our jails, so we don't have to shoot them or poison them or worse still support them with our taxes.
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
you don't mclellan..you don't know how he'd react....everything we do know is secondhand...
Guy is down enough these days..just let him be..
As for Benn's comment....
1. People shouldn't comment on a situation like that when it's still raw..
2. It wasn't a very good thing to say!
Guy is down enough these days..just let him be..
As for Benn's comment....
1. People shouldn't comment on a situation like that when it's still raw..
2. It wasn't a very good thing to say!
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
milkyboy wrote:Scottrf wrote:If the foxes chose to get hunted I wouldn't have a problem.milkyboy wrote:Am i the only one who finds a sense of irony in a bunch of boxing fans, a sport where people are paid to batter each other, getting all sensitive about fox hunting
i hate fox hunting myself scott, because its people enjoying the sport of killing an animal for fun as opposed to food. But then the foxes don't choose to get shot or poisoned either... nobody bothered to ask them their preferred mode of execution. I found the spat on the subject rather amusing to appear on a boxing board, but clearly there's some sensitive souls here.
You and i both choose to watch a 'sport' that despite references to the sweet science is fundamentally 2 guys beating each other up and leads to numerous heath issues. If no-one paid for it or supported it, it wouldn't happen. We aid and abet legalised gbh. That's ok of course because it keeps the participants off the streets and out of our jails, so we don't have to shoot them or poison them or worse still support them with our taxes.
In fairness milky, the spat wasn't really about fox hunting, it was just used as an example. The spat was about the application of reason.
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
ok scott, you got me... that'll be professional boxing for money that wouldn't exist without a market for it... the thing that most amateur boxers aspire to.
g'day truss... it wasn't a great thing to say by benn but given the timing of it, i think it's understandable/forgiveable.
Tell me when does this parenting business get a bit more interesting, my little one is 6 weeks now and he can't even walk yet never mind say 'daddy' . Ho hum, sounds like another nappy needs changing as i type.
g'day truss... it wasn't a great thing to say by benn but given the timing of it, i think it's understandable/forgiveable.
Tell me when does this parenting business get a bit more interesting, my little one is 6 weeks now and he can't even walk yet never mind say 'daddy' . Ho hum, sounds like another nappy needs changing as i type.
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
milkyboy wrote:ok scott, you got me... that'll be professional boxing for money that wouldn't exist without a market for it... the thing that most amateur boxers aspire to.
g'day truss... it wasn't a great thing to say by benn but given the timing of it, i think it's understandable/forgiveable.
Tell me when does this parenting business get a bit more interesting, my little one is 6 weeks now and he can't even walk yet never mind say 'daddy' . Ho hum, sounds like another nappy needs changing as i type.
Either you kept that quiet or I missed it, milky.
Many congratulations, mate, and also to Mrs milky. Hope all is well.
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
[/quote]
In fairness milky, the spat wasn't really about fox hunting, it was just used as an example. The spat was about the application of reason.[/quote]
i was buying that for a moment top, until you mentioned the word 'reason' - there's no place for reason on internet forums... the domain of uninformed opinion and rhetoric. But enough about me.
In fairness milky, the spat wasn't really about fox hunting, it was just used as an example. The spat was about the application of reason.[/quote]
i was buying that for a moment top, until you mentioned the word 'reason' - there's no place for reason on internet forums... the domain of uninformed opinion and rhetoric. But enough about me.
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
HumanWindmill wrote:milkyboy wrote:ok scott, you got me... that'll be professional boxing for money that wouldn't exist without a market for it... the thing that most amateur boxers aspire to.
g'day truss... it wasn't a great thing to say by benn but given the timing of it, i think it's understandable/forgiveable.
Tell me when does this parenting business get a bit more interesting, my little one is 6 weeks now and he can't even walk yet never mind say 'daddy' . Ho hum, sounds like another nappy needs changing as i type.
Either you kept that quiet or I missed it, milky.
Many congratulations, mate, and also to Mrs milky. Hope all is well.
it's the only thing that's been kept quiet round hear windy! I didn't announce it... been a bit full on, and is the reason my appearances round here have been fleeting of late.
Thanks for the good wishes. Mrs Milky and milky junior are both good. I named him after my favourite boxing legends. Marvelous sugar ray trussman Milkyboy.
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
milkyboy wrote:HumanWindmill wrote:milkyboy wrote:ok scott, you got me... that'll be professional boxing for money that wouldn't exist without a market for it... the thing that most amateur boxers aspire to.
g'day truss... it wasn't a great thing to say by benn but given the timing of it, i think it's understandable/forgiveable.
Tell me when does this parenting business get a bit more interesting, my little one is 6 weeks now and he can't even walk yet never mind say 'daddy' . Ho hum, sounds like another nappy needs changing as i type.
Either you kept that quiet or I missed it, milky.
Many congratulations, mate, and also to Mrs milky. Hope all is well.
it's the only thing that's been kept quiet round hear windy! I didn't announce it... been a bit full on, and is the reason my appearances round here have been fleeting of late.
Thanks for the good wishes. Mrs Milky and milky junior are both good. I named him after my favourite boxing legends. Marvelous sugar ray trussman Milkyboy.
Excellent choices, mate.
Glad to know all is well.
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
milkyboy wrote:
In fairness milky, the spat wasn't really about fox hunting, it was just used as an example. The spat was about the application of reason.[/quote]
i was buying that for a moment top, until you mentioned the word 'reason' - there's no place for reason on internet forums... the domain of uninformed opinion and rhetoric. But enough about me.[/quote]
Ha, indeed, as I've now found out to my peril!
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
milkyboy wrote:HumanWindmill wrote:milkyboy wrote:ok scott, you got me... that'll be professional boxing for money that wouldn't exist without a market for it... the thing that most amateur boxers aspire to.
g'day truss... it wasn't a great thing to say by benn but given the timing of it, i think it's understandable/forgiveable.
Tell me when does this parenting business get a bit more interesting, my little one is 6 weeks now and he can't even walk yet never mind say 'daddy' . Ho hum, sounds like another nappy needs changing as i type.
Either you kept that quiet or I missed it, milky.
Many congratulations, mate, and also to Mrs milky. Hope all is well.
it's the only thing that's been kept quiet round hear windy! I didn't announce it... been a bit full on, and is the reason my appearances round here have been fleeting of late.
Thanks for the good wishes. Mrs Milky and milky junior are both good. I named him after my favourite boxing legends. Marvelous sugar ray trussman Milkyboy.
Congrats mate - My own is 4 weeks old and she waits for the nappy to come off before letting out the second lot. So I've been feigning sleep at night to avoid the violent discharges All the best to The Milky family.
Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
ShahenshahG wrote:milkyboy wrote:HumanWindmill wrote:milkyboy wrote:ok scott, you got me... that'll be professional boxing for money that wouldn't exist without a market for it... the thing that most amateur boxers aspire to.
g'day truss... it wasn't a great thing to say by benn but given the timing of it, i think it's understandable/forgiveable.
Tell me when does this parenting business get a bit more interesting, my little one is 6 weeks now and he can't even walk yet never mind say 'daddy' . Ho hum, sounds like another nappy needs changing as i type.
Either you kept that quiet or I missed it, milky.
Many congratulations, mate, and also to Mrs milky. Hope all is well.
it's the only thing that's been kept quiet round hear windy! I didn't announce it... been a bit full on, and is the reason my appearances round here have been fleeting of late.
Thanks for the good wishes. Mrs Milky and milky junior are both good. I named him after my favourite boxing legends. Marvelous sugar ray trussman Milkyboy.
Congrats mate - My own is 4 weeks old and she waits for the nappy to come off before letting out the second lot. So I've been feigning sleep at night to avoid the violent discharges All the best to The Milky family.
yes i'm familiar with that one, worse with a boy though... brought a whole new meaning to pea shooter for me! I get used as target practice. Never relieves himself on his mother, think he's trying to tell me something. Could be:
a) grow some breasts if you want some love and respect
b) learn to change nappies quicker, loser
c) I know somehting you don't... you're not my father
Its all great really, if a little fatiguing, as i'm sure you're finding... May i return my congrats to the shah family
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
Congratulations Milky. What did you really call him...Ray Leonard Milkyboy?
Atila- Posts : 1712
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
Atila wrote:Congratulations Milky. What did you really call him...Ray Leonard Milkyboy?
haha...you've rumbled me fella. Has a good ring to it though. I thought about marvin milkyboy but didn't want to name him after a loser.
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
milkyboy wrote:Atila wrote:Congratulations Milky. What did you really call him...Ray Leonard Milkyboy?
haha...you've rumbled me fella. Has a good ring to it though. I thought about marvin milkyboy but didn't want to name him after a loser.
I'm sure Marvins name will balance yours out
Re: Benn v Mclellan reversed
ShahenshahG wrote:milkyboy wrote:Atila wrote:Congratulations Milky. What did you really call him...Ray Leonard Milkyboy?
haha...you've rumbled me fella. Has a good ring to it though. I thought about marvin milkyboy but didn't want to name him after a loser.
I'm sure Marvins name will balance yours out
i see the parent solidarity didn't last long!
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