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Post by Knowsit17 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 4:56 pm

15. Perseus
14. Pelops
13. Great Ajax
12. Odysseus
11. Achilles
10. Heracles (c)
9. Theseus
1. Atlas (good at lifting at the lineout)
2. Antiphates
3. Polythemus
4. Briareus (100 hands, again useful at the lineout)
5. Alcyoneus
6. Midas (got to have him somewhere)
7. Sisythus
8. Typhon

Head coach - Zeus
Attack coach - Ares
Defence coach -
Forwards coach -
Kicking coach -
Chief medic - Asclepius

Any ideas? Could still use some help on some of the coaching staff and of course if you disagree with any of my selections feel free to say so and suggest your own preferences.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 16 Dec 2011, 5:36 pm

Surely Achilles would be keeping Tait company in the hospital?
7? surely Pleades
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:09 pm

Knowsit17 wrote:15. Perseus
14. Pelops
13. Great Ajax
12. Odysseus
11. Achilles
10. Heracles (c)
9. Theseus
1. Atlas (good at lifting at the lineout)
2. Antiphates
3. Polythemus
4. Briareus (100 hands, again useful at the lineout)
5. Alcyoneus
6. Midas (got to have him somewhere)
7. Sisythus
8. Typhon

Head coach - Zeus
Attack coach - Ares
Defence coach -
Forwards coach -
Kicking coach -
Chief medic - Asclepius

Any ideas? Could still use some help on some of the coaching staff and of course if you disagree with any of my selections feel free to say so and suggest your own preferences.
I had that once, but they sorted me out down the STD clinic OK

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Post by Knowsit17 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:16 pm

I thought he might be useful as undoubtedly a crafty individual, a trait which might come in handy at the breakdown. If he fooled death he can fool the ref can't he?

Great workrate as well Smile

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Post by Scot Abroad Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:26 pm

Attack Coach - Prometheus
Team Entertainment - Dionysus

I'd maybe have Jason of the Argonauts fame in at 9 instead of Theseus. Has a great throw on him.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:29 pm

Aphrodite as physio.
Gimme a rub down baby, she'll take gooood care of you honey.

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Post by Looseheaded Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:36 pm

No Minotaur? Great ball carrier in the midfield.

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Post by Knowsit17 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:57 pm

Looseheaded wrote:No Minotaur? Great ball carrier in the midfield.

I suppose. Was trying not to include mythological beasts originally but just couldn't resist the services of a cyclops and two giants so why not.

If the Minotaur is in then the Cretan Bull could also be a front row option.

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Post by wales606 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:59 pm

12. Odysseus?

Really? Surely he should be at 10 to organise the attack (get all the wingers in a giant wooden horse etc)

Id move Hercules to 6, strong in the tackle...
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Post by wales606 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:01 pm

Forwards coach - Hades. He would take the dark arts of the front row to a whole new level.
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Post by Looseheaded Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:06 pm

Also, Hermes at scrumhalf, he was the messenger and would be great to have him talking at the rucks. Tiresias the sooth sayer as coach, the wise man knows his stuff.


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Post by Knowsit17 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:07 pm

That's one way of looking at it, on the other hand he could be seen as a creative force to have in midfield. Slit through the Trojan defence as simple as you'd like.

Didn't really consider the fundamentals of Hercules as a player, just thought he could slot in anywhere without any trouble. Could always just bench him as a supersub.

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Post by Knowsit17 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:10 pm

Sorry, no gods allowed in the side, only in coaching roles. Hercules is the only exception as he was born a human and his human form would be the one playing.

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Post by Looseheaded Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:11 pm

Fair enough, no hermes then.

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Post by Gatts Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:16 pm

A george north xv would take on this bunch of whoopsies and kick some Greek butt

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Post by Gatts Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:18 pm

Btw Midas golden touch is surely required in the 3/4s

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Post by wales606 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:40 pm

Knowsit17 wrote:Sorry, no gods allowed in the side, only in coaching roles. Hercules is the only exception as he was born a human and his human form would be the one playing.

Im fairly sure that Hermes isn't a god either - he is a demi-god like Hercules.
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Post by donkeyprop Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:59 pm

Polyphemus, the blind cyclops as ref.
His brother taking over from Johnathan Davies in the commentary box.

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Post by Looseheaded Fri 16 Dec 2011, 8:14 pm

wales606 wrote:
Knowsit17 wrote:Sorry, no gods allowed in the side, only in coaching roles. Hercules is the only exception as he was born a human and his human form would be the one playing.

Im fairly sure that Hermes isn't a god either - he is a demi-god like Hercules.

I thought so as well but it turns out he was born on Mount Olympias and as such is recognized as an Olympian God.

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Post by TycroesOsprey Fri 16 Dec 2011, 11:53 pm

Hermes is definitely a god and Im not sure about Hercules at 10, he sort of strikes me as a no 8. Surely Achilles the perfect one would be nailed on for outside half?

Castor and Pollux in the centre, drop pelops(dirty turncoat), Odysseus out to the wing and Ajax into the second row, Midas going onto the other wing.

Jason has to be in there somewhere, maybe a backrow or Hector at 6 Hercules at 8 and Jason as openside. I think Typhon having a 100 dragon heads excludes him personally.

Hephaestus for forwards coach. Chiron for attack coach.

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Post by Gatts Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:43 am

donkeyprop wrote:Polyphemus, the blind cyclops as ref.
His brother taking over from Johnathan Davies in the commentary box.

Lets keep Rolland as ref, then we can get the Minotaur to tear him a new Poopie hole

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Post by stlowe Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:37 pm

Chiron has to be one of the top coaches

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Post by Glas a du Sun 18 Dec 2011, 8:24 am

Cyclops not in the back row? Or is he too busy supporting the Scarlets?
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Post by TycroesOsprey Sun 18 Dec 2011, 11:10 am

Glas a du wrote:Cyclops not in the back row? Or is he too busy supporting the Scarlets?

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Post by Glas a du Sun 18 Dec 2011, 12:19 pm

Very Happy I can say that because I'm a Scarlets fan.

But, look out if anybody else had said it warning

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Post by Poorfour Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:28 am

Odysseus on the wing? It took him 10 years to get back from Troy. Not going to beat many defences with that kind of pace.

As a blind side, though, he's the obvious choice. Agamemnon can take his place in the centres.

Chiron on the wing, perhaps?
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Post by Poorfour Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:44 am

They've also got to have someone to play against. How about a Norse XV? I've cheated a little by assembling it mostly from Aesir, but they're more comparable to Greek heroes than to the gods.

15 Tyr – can always be trusted to put his body on the line
14 Frey – wouldn’t want to ruin his good looks in the forwards
13 Odur – Sun god, apt to go missing but can turn up the heat when needed
12 Heimdall – gatekeeper of Asgard, the obvious choice for a defensive captain
11 Thialfi – his name is Norse for “thought”
10 Baldur – untouchable at 10
9 Mimir – the smartest of the gods, even after being decapitated
1 Hoenir – not the brightest god, but physically imposing
2 Vidar – I’m assuming they’d run a silent lineout. The enforcer in the pack
3 Niord – you might as well try to push back the sea
4 Thor – has to be in the team, despite disciplinary problems
5 Siegfried – dragonslayer and the son of a Valkyrie
6 Odin – Almost as tricky as his blood brother at 7
7 Loki – Really ought to be playing blindside, but then where would you put Odin?
8 Beowulf – the edda telling of his performance in the inaugural RWC is sadly lost to us.
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Post by Gatts Mon 19 Dec 2011, 1:40 am

Oh ffs this is rapidly turning into a geeks-who-played-dungeons-and-dragons-at-school-because-they-couldn't-get-into-the-1ST XV-thread. Pathetic.

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Post by Looseheaded Mon 19 Dec 2011, 8:36 am

Gatts wrote:Oh ffs this is rapidly turning into a geeks-who-played-dungeons-and-dragons-at-school-because-they-couldn't-get-into-the-1ST XV-thread. Pathetic.

Except it hasn't turned to that, it's just people who have an interest in and knowledge about Greek mythology. It's a pretty interesting subject. So sorry for being a geek and a rugby player Gatts, we should all just fall into the groups of jocks and geeks if you say so sir. Also, what's more pathetic, people exhibiting knowledge, or a person belittling that knowledge as well as their interest?

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Post by beshocked Mon 19 Dec 2011, 8:38 am

1.Gaia - embodiement of Earth
2.Cronus - King of the Titans
3.Atlas - massive Titan
4.Ares - god of war
5.Cerberus - 3 headed dog
6.Hercules - Demi god, super strength
7.Hades - master of the dark arts, god of the underworld
8.Typhon - powerful monster
9.Odysseus - one of the most cunning greek heroes
10.Athena - tactical genius, goddess of wisdom and war.
11.Hermes - messenger god, quick
12.Achilles - hero of the war vs troy
13.Theseus - slayer of the minotaur and numerous others.
14.Apollo - god of sun and music
15.Zeus -king of the gods

If no gods then this

XV
1.Gaia
2.Cronus
3.Atlas
4.Scylla
5.Cerberus
6.Hercules
7.Chimera
8.Typhon
9.Perseus
10.Odysseus
11.Nemean Lion
12.Achilles
13.Theseus
14.Minotaur.
15.Echidna


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Post by Gatts Mon 19 Dec 2011, 8:43 am

Looseheaded you are a one

apparently it has also turned into a no-sense-of-humour-taking-yourself-a-tad-too-seriously-don't-you-think thread! relax, you'll split your toga.

Yours ever

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p.s. did you belittle me using some Greek mythological magic or was it your rapier like wit?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 19 Dec 2011, 11:09 am

Wasn't the Kraken part of norse mythology? Now that's what I'd call a full back, little to no chance of running round or kicking over those tentacles!

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Post by TycroesOsprey Mon 19 Dec 2011, 11:12 am

Gatts wrote:Looseheaded you are a one

apparently it has also turned into a no-sense-of-humour-taking-yourself-a-tad-too-seriously-don't-you-think thread! relax, you'll split your toga.

Yours ever

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p.s. did you belittle me using some Greek mythological magic or was it your rapier like wit?

Hmm gatts the greeks didnt wear togas that was the romans. Anyway I played first team rugby through school uni and club level whilst maintaining a healthy interest in D and D and getting a masters in History so this thread appeals on many levels thumbsup

I would have Oddysseus on the wing for his tricky running, getting back to Ithaca took time cos the gods picked on him not because of a lack of genuine pace.

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Post by beshocked Mon 19 Dec 2011, 11:31 am

Sam how could I forget the kraken? Knew I forgot someone! thumbsup

Kraken is greek. Perseus killed it with medusas' head.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 19 Dec 2011, 11:44 am

I thought the Kraken appeared in Norse mythology as well due to the giant squid sometimes seen off of the coast of Iceland and Scandanavia?

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Mon 19 Dec 2011, 11:47 am

Why not through in the Cyclops as well?
Medusa would be handy too!!!

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Post by beshocked Mon 19 Dec 2011, 11:55 am

Apologies I am getting mixed up by the clash of the titans films.

The sea monster Perseus killed is called Cetus.

Not sure I have room for Medusa and Cyclops. Plus it wouldn't be right if Medusa turned everyone to stone.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:30 pm

Plus it wouldn't be right if Medusa turned everyone to stone..

Be like playing against the England RWC defence...

Sorry couldn't resist that one.

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Post by Bathman_in_London Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:34 pm

Surely Nike as the winged goddess of victory should play a part? Maybe team motivator if nothing else!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 19 Dec 2011, 12:58 pm

Gatts you seem to have forgotten that the entire England team studied classics at prep school.

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Post by pontylad Mon 19 Dec 2011, 2:44 pm

If you could get a shirt on Cerebus he'd be a whole front row on his own .

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Post by Looseheaded Mon 19 Dec 2011, 3:19 pm

Gatts wrote:Looseheaded you are a one

apparently it has also turned into a no-sense-of-humour-taking-yourself-a-tad-too-seriously-don't-you-think thread! relax, you'll split your toga.

Yours ever

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p.s. did you belittle me using some Greek mythological magic or was it your rapier like wit?

I don't think anybody on here's taking the subject matter seriously, just because actual debate was entered into surrounding mythological beings and where they'd fit on a rugby pitch it doesn't mean anybody's taking it seriously. There are no insults or arguments (apart from the one you brought to the discussion). Also, I never claimed ot have belittled you. I said that you attempted to belittle others, which in turn is pathetic. I didn't exhibit any wit, nor did I attempt to. I don't understand what your problem is, just because you don't like it doesn't mean others have to agree.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Dec 2011, 5:24 pm

I'd have two women standing side-by-side in my team :

Cassandra, to make a loud wailing noise.
Medusa, to turn the opposition to stone when they look to see where the noise is coming from!

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Post by Gatts Mon 19 Dec 2011, 7:03 pm

Oh ffs, looseheaded don't be so dull, one too many knocks on the head for you methinks. I was slating the thread in mock derision, though some on here need to take a long hard look at themselves and ask themselves if long term they would be happier playing chess not rugby

1. You are taking yourself far far too seriously
2. You are right that you have not exhibited any wit, you have no banter.
3. The reference to being Belittled was irony. I was not attempting to belittle anyone, if you are that sensitive you do not belong in the front row, become a scrum half where being high maintenance and suffering from small man syndrome as you clearly do, is de rigeur.
4. Relax, its Christmas, go toss a dwarf


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Post by Gatts Mon 19 Dec 2011, 7:05 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Gatts you seem to have forgotten that the entire England team studied classics at prep school.

And you seem to have forgotten England are Poopie

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Post by Gatts Mon 19 Dec 2011, 7:09 pm



Hmm gatts the greeks didnt wear togas that was the romans. Anyway I played first team rugby through school uni and club level whilst maintaining a healthy interest in D and D and getting a masters in History so this thread appeals on many levels
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Shame on you Tycoes.

and you can take your Toga and shove it up your Mt Ararat thumbsup

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Post by Glas a du Mon 19 Dec 2011, 8:42 pm

From Welsh legends

15 Arthur
14 Guto Nyth Bran
13 Culhwch
12 Cai
11 Dic Penderyn
10 Gwydion
9 Gareth Edwards

1 Pwyll
2 Y Twrch Trwyth
3 Efnisien
4 Ysbyddaden Bencawr
5 Bendigeidfran
6 Mabon
8 Owen Lawgoch
7 Merlin
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:12 pm


Gatts, if you can't be constructive go play somewhere else.

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Post by Gatts Mon 19 Dec 2011, 9:47 pm

Why exactly does a MOD need to wade into this?

So now we have to be 'constructive'...one can't make an observation about the thread and opine in a way that indicates disdain?

Isn't this entirely subjective wielding of the red pen rather indicative of censorship...hardly the democracy these greek heroes fought to create and preserve is it? But the 606v2 MODS love to wield their red pens like the sword, significantly less mighty though they are.

By constructive you mean what exactly?

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Post by doctornickolas Mon 19 Dec 2011, 10:47 pm

No one has selected the one true god in their XV.......Gareth Edwards

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