Greek Mythology XV

by Knowsit17 Fri 16 Dec 2011, 4:56 pm

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15. Perseus
14. Pelops
13. Great Ajax
12. Odysseus
11. Achilles
10. Heracles (c)
9. Theseus
1. Atlas (good at lifting at the lineout)
2. Antiphates
3. Polythemus
4. Briareus (100 hands, again useful at the lineout)
5. Alcyoneus
6. Midas (got to have him somewhere)
7. Sisythus
8. Typhon

Head coach - Zeus
Attack coach - Ares
Defence coach -
Forwards coach -
Kicking coach -
Chief medic - Asclepius

Any ideas? Could still use some help on some of the coaching staff and of course if you disagree with any of my selections feel free to say so and suggest your own preferences.

by formerly known as Sam Tue 20 Dec 2011, 10:59 am

From Welsh legends
7 Merlin.

Slightly cheating. Just have him stand over a ruck mutter a few words then turn round and hand the scrummy the ball. Would be similar to the flanker combination of Hill and Back I suppose.

by Glas a du Tue 20 Dec 2011, 11:52 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:
From Welsh legends
7 Merlin.

Slightly cheating. Just have him stand over a ruck mutter a few words then turn round and hand the scrummy the ball. Would be similar to the flanker combination of Hill and Back I suppose.

I did type his proper name Myrddin to start but then realised you wouldn't necessarily make the connection. However Gwydion at 10 is another magician who made a living girl out of flowers, turned people into eagles so they could come back to life, made a spear that could pass through boulders killing people hiding behind them etc.

by beshocked Tue 20 Dec 2011, 11:55 am

An alternative classics XV

1. Marcus Claudius Marcellus
2.Pompeius Magnus
3.Milo of Croton
4.Spartacus
5.Agrippa
6.King Leonidas
7.Phyrrus of Epirus
8.Julius Caesar
9.Xenophon
10.Alexander the Great
11.Pheidippides
12.Hannibal
13.Philip of Macedon
14.Massinissa
15.Scipio Africanus

Defence Coach - Cicero
Attack Coach - Archimedes

Aristotle,Plato and Socrates can fit in somewhere too.

by Bathman_in_London Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:20 pm

Plenty of leaders in there beshocked, would it lead to a divided dressing room I wonder...

by Glas a du Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:22 pm

So what are you saying, they would only gain Pyrrhic victories?

by formerly known as Sam Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:25 pm

I did type his proper name Myrddin to start but then realised you wouldn't necessarily make the connection

Funnily enough I wouldn't, having only visited Wales twice my Welsh isn't really up to scratch I'm afriad.

However Gwydion at 10 is another magician who made a living girl out of flowers, turned people into eagles so they could come back to life, made a spear that could pass through boulders killing people hiding behind them etc. .

Handy.

by beshocked Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:32 pm

Bathman it's always great to have leaders. True though I am sure some of them wouldn't get along:

Marcellus and Archimedes, Hannibal and Scipio, Caesar and Pompeius, Spartacus and the Romans. Probably more likely to kill each other than beat the opposition!

Maybe someone could come up with a Roman XV vs Rest of the classics world XV?

by Effervescing Elephant Tue 20 Dec 2011, 12:45 pm

Beshocked, suprised you've got Cicero as defence coach. Would have gone for Vercingetorix myself, held back Caesar himself for a fair while!

by beshocked Tue 20 Dec 2011, 1:05 pm

Carpe Diem Vercingetorix would probably be more suited to the pack surely? Big 2nd row?

Cicero is in there for his brains. Plus he was an excellent orator. Would give a great team talk. Was a defence lawyer too at the beginning of his career.

by Effervescing Elephant Tue 20 Dec 2011, 1:10 pm

Good point. Definitely room for him in the SR or even marauding from the back row, would have to remove the chains first though...

by TycroesOsprey Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:13 pm

Romans vs rest of the classical world. Personally I think the romans would be hammered.

1. Marius
2. Aulus Plautius
3. Pompey Magnus
4. Germanicus
5. Aetius
6. Bellisarius
7. Horatio
8. Trajan
9. Scipio Africanus
10. Caeser
11. Octavian
12. Romulus
13. Remus
14. Sulla
15. Tarquin the proud

vs

1. Spartacus
2. Arminius
3. Leonaidus
4. Alaric
5. Vercingetorix
6. Rameses
7. Ptolemy
8. Obelix
9. Hannibal
10. Alexander
11. Darius
12. Caratacus
13. Attila
14. Asterix
15. Cyrus the Great

Getafix as coach Whistle

by beshocked Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:16 pm

Yup a 2nd row partnership of Vercingetorix and Spartacus would be pretty ruthless. Not sure how effective they would be in the lineout but would certainly add grunt to the scrum.

I suppose with so many leaders lineouts wouldn't be a problem.

Very nice Tyrcoes Osprey. Agree looks like a strong rest of the world side.

by Effervescing Elephant Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:25 pm

Wouldn't be too confident of Asterix and Obelix passing a drugs test mind. Wink

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:27 pm

TycroesOsprey wrote:Romans vs rest of the classical world. Personally I think the romans would be hammered.

1. Marius
2. Aulus Plautius
3. Pompey Magnus
4. Germanicus
5. Aetius
6. Bellisarius
7. Horatio
8. Trajan
9. Scipio Africanus
10. Caeser
11. Octavian
12. Romulus
13. Remus
14. Sulla
15. Tarquin the proud

vs

1. Spartacus
2. Arminius
3. Leonaidus
4. Alaric
5. Vercingetorix
6. Rameses
7. Ptolemy
8. Obelix
9. Hannibal
10. Alexander
11. Darius
12. Caratacus
13. Attila
14. Asterix
15. Cyrus the Great

Getafix as coach

Why is Matt Stevens only coaching? Wink

by Effervescing Elephant Tue 20 Dec 2011, 2:28 pm

by Bathman_in_London Tue 20 Dec 2011, 3:08 pm

Good teams Tycroes.

I can't imagine anyone would be able to stop Obelix from 5m out!

Although once the romans got their tortoise/rolling maul going, that would be pretty effective too!

by Mickado Tue 20 Dec 2011, 4:14 pm

Poorfour wrote:They've also got to have someone to play against. How about a Norse XV? I've cheated a little by assembling it mostly from Aesir, but they're more comparable to Greek heroes than to the gods.

15 Tyr – can always be trusted to put his body on the line
14 Frey – wouldn’t want to ruin his good looks in the forwards
13 Odur – Sun god, apt to go missing but can turn up the heat when needed
12 Heimdall – gatekeeper of Asgard, the obvious choice for a defensive captain
11 Thialfi – his name is Norse for “thought”
10 Baldur – untouchable at 10
9 Mimir – the smartest of the gods, even after being decapitated
1 Hoenir – not the brightest god, but physically imposing
2 Vidar – I’m assuming they’d run a silent lineout. The enforcer in the pack
3 Niord – you might as well try to push back the sea
4 Thor – has to be in the team, despite disciplinary problems
5 Siegfried – dragonslayer and the son of a Valkyrie
6 Odin – Almost as tricky as his blood brother at 7
7 Loki – Really ought to be playing blindside, but then where would you put Odin?
8 Beowulf – the edda telling of his performance in the inaugural RWC is sadly lost to us.

Loki is Odin's son, not his brother.

Thank you very much Marvel Comics!

by beshocked Tue 20 Dec 2011, 4:32 pm

Mickado if we are being pedantic then Loki's real father is Laufey.

by Mickado Tue 20 Dec 2011, 4:52 pm

Must stay out of these conversations.
I took metal work instead of classical studies lads. Carry on!

by ChequeredJersey Fri 23 Dec 2011, 5:44 pm

Knowsit17 wrote:15. Perseus
14. Pelops
13. Great Ajax
12. Odysseus
11. Achilles
10. Heracles (c)
9. Theseus
1. Atlas (good at lifting at the lineout)
2. Antiphates
3. Polythemus
4. Briareus (100 hands, again useful at the lineout)
5. Alcyoneus
6. Midas (got to have him somewhere)
7. Sisythus
8. Typhon

Head coach - Zeus
Attack coach - Ares
Defence coach -
Forwards coach -
Kicking coach -
Chief medic - Asclepius

Any ideas? Could still use some help on some of the coaching staff and of course if you disagree with any of my selections feel free to say so and suggest your own preferences.

Where is the biggest badass of the Iliad, Diomedes? Athenae should be defense coach, that's her specialty. Apollo as kicking coach

by Poorfour Sat 24 Dec 2011, 1:03 am

Mickado wrote:
Loki is Odin's son, not his brother.

Thank you very much Marvel Comics!

Only in the comics. In most versions of the actual mythology, Loki is a giant who becomes Odin's blood brother.

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