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Post by Gregers Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:21 pm

I do not take credit for this, felt it needed to be shared tho:

Thanks to Jack Foley for the following:


These videos are hyping a potential WM28 feud between CM Punk and Chris Jericho and here's why: In the video the little boy is representing Jericho and the little girl is representing Punk. Keep this in mind throughout my explanation. Notice, how the little boy continues to write in his notebook and the little girl keeps trying to look at what he is writing. Once the boy goes into the corner (Jericho's time off from WWE), The girl tries to do the work herself, but can't come up with anything. Keep in mind that she looked at the boy's notebook and this is implying that she has stolen the boy's work, which represents Jericho going to come back and claim that Punk is a fraud and has stolen his ideas and gimmick and what not. Also the ball in the video represents Jericho "dropping the ball" by leaving and Punk "taking the ball and running with it". The ball belonged to the boy and the girl took. At the end the girl, is standing in the spotlight and the boy is in the dark with his head down indicating that we have forgotten about Jericho and that Punk is the new guy we all know and love. This will lead to WM match with Punk and Jericho. Look within the video not what the kid is saying....

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Post by Bull Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:23 pm

100% Agree !!!

people say its too dark to be Jericho but he said him self he would only come back if he had a new Gimmick ! , and its not dark enough to be Taker anyway

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Post by Crimey Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:34 pm

The only problem with Jericho returning and facing CM Punk is that just because he's a big name returning Jericho will surely get a face reaction?

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Post by The Awesome Giz Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:37 pm

I think people are reading way to much into this. I admire the enthusiasm though.

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Post by Bull Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:40 pm

A Face feud could work? with the crowd picking there side? (Christian v Orton before his heel turn)

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Post by Crimey Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:49 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:A Face feud could work? with the crowd picking there side? (Christian v Orton before his heel turn)

Not good for CM Punk though who has the potential to be the company's top face, putting him in a feud where people have to choose will make him lose even more momentum.

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Post by Bull Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:53 pm

ah ok , well i think Jericho will be heel even with the return? and Punk could say if you want a shot at me win the rumble?

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Post by JamesLincs Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:16 pm

i buy it. also agree that it is not dark enough for taker. and that because the last one was so obviously jericho in 07 or whenever it was, i think theyd want this one to keep us guessing. i also think jericho is playin a return down way too much. jericho said himself since he was a child he wanted to be a wrestler, it just doesnt make any sense that any wrestling related questions posed to him now are just completely brushed away by him.

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Post by JoshSansom Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:18 pm

If Jericho returned he would have the initial face reaction but they could quickly remove that by aligning him with John Laurenitis

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Post by Crimey Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:23 pm

JoshSansom wrote:If Jericho returned he would have the initial face reaction but they could quickly remove that by aligning him with John Laurenitis

Because Johnny Ace is such a heat magnet....?

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Post by Don Caboose Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:14 pm

It's obviously Jericho, and that interpretation of the videos make perfect sense, but I still have reservations about a Punk-Jericho programme going into Wrestlemania. It's just not something I want to see, but from what I've read, a lot of people do.

I'm certainly not complaining about having Chris Jericho back. It's a shame we wont see a reunion of JeriShow. Probably my favourite Tag Team since the WGTT/Los Guerreros days.

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Post by JoshSansom Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:18 pm

invincibleILeak (CL-6WF) wrote:
JoshSansom wrote:If Jericho returned he would have the initial face reaction but they could quickly remove that by aligning him with John Laurenitis

Because Johnny Ace is such a heat magnet....?

He could be the mystery text recipient?...

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Post by Bull Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:20 pm

yeah why does the guy keep Texting? his not a Teenager

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Post by JamesLincs Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:26 pm

he is cool like one though

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Post by MtotheC Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:36 pm

That's a great shout Josh, if so could it the beginins of a company stable with ace, y2j, otunga and clay?

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Post by hodge Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:50 pm

pausing the video when the notebook hits the floor, from what i could see 'Chris' is crossed out on the front.

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Post by Bull Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:51 pm

OK yep so that gives it straight away , they did say that this weeks raw would give a clue anyway

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Post by Fernando Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:00 pm

hodge wrote:pausing the video when the notebook hits the floor, from what i could see 'Chris' is crossed out on the front.

Seem too long to spell chris tbh what i did notice was a leaf in a puddle disappear quite early on rather similar to the one on the canadian flag OK

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Post by Bull Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:04 pm

there are 2 things on the notepad something like Comperation and then blow chris is crossed out and yeah paused the video just seen the Canadian Maple Leaf

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Post by Gregers Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:05 pm

The notebook does say Chris and has it crossed out with the straight edge cross.

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Post by longrangeeffort Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:49 pm

It does look like its Jericho. I do wonder if he is coming back with a new gimmick though..the videos have the feel that he is going to come back and have a BIG impact. Especially the line in the 4th one about things never being the same again...or something along those lines.

The "i cant help you anymore" line also has me thinking too... It doesnt look like Punk needs much help at the moment! Maybe, if it is Jericho, he will be involved in turning Cena heel somehow? Clutching at straws but that would be making sure things arent the same ever again and finally pushing Cena to the heel turn we all know/hope will happen at some point.

Jericho will then look like this devious evil underhand heel (with various other things he gets up to as well, not just messing with Cena) going against Punk who the fans love at WM.

Like i said, really clutching at straws here but would it really be a surprise? Random decisions happen all the time! Very Happy


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Post by Buzzman Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:10 pm

if only they spent as much time and effort with storylines as they did with return promos One fans view on the It Begins videos 1347041234

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Post by Kay Fabe Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:47 am

For me it's definitely Jericho although in fairness to WWE they have branched it off enough for it to be someone else if worst case scenario happens (first choice doesn't sign)

I've also thought the girl represents the WWE title and that's what he is coming back to reclaim however the opinion of "Jack Foley" does make more sense

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Post by Bull Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:11 pm

https://2img.net/h/oi42.tinypic.com/2r7ofx2.png

At the far bench there seems to be a man standing there ....Jericho

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Post by Sara Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:21 pm

If this is Jericho, it will be awesome. I am not getting my hopes up too much just in case its not him, but I am also not going to check spoilers when 02/01 happens just in case it is! Exciting!! Very Happy

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Post by adamk Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:32 am

i reckon its jericho as i came across this link

http://bible.cc/2_kings/2-5.htm

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Post by UpsideDownFace Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:23 pm

On Raw tonight the last one will air, apparently it will reveal who it is.

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Post by hodge Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:37 pm

I don't get why, would take all the supprise from the actual return

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Post by HitmanOwl Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:23 pm

I'm sure jericho has mentioned in a video he likes tantric the rock band. Also in the latest one it sure a world globe spinning.

Nailed in Jericho for me Wink

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Post by Celtic Warrior Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:44 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:https://2img.net/h/oi42.tinypic.com/2r7ofx2.png

At the far bench there seems to be a man standing there ....Jericho

Got to be honest Bull, that just looks like a tree trunk with something leaning against it to me.

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Post by Fernando Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:32 pm

Have to admire people who make these rumors Laugh


Super Luchas Magazine out of Mexico, which has been a credible source in the past, has started the rumor online that current TNA star and #1 contender to their World Heavyweight Title Jeff Hardy is the man behind WWE's cryptic January 2nd, 2012 videos and that Hardy will make his return to WWE soon.


I mean really Laugh Laugh

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Post by HitmanOwl Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:00 pm

That is the funniest thing I've heard all my time watching wrestling lol


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Post by Bull Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:03 pm

fernando wrote:Have to admire people who make these rumors Laugh


Super Luchas Magazine out of Mexico, which has been a credible source in the past, has started the rumor online that current TNA star and #1 contender to their World Heavyweight Title Jeff Hardy is the man behind WWE's cryptic January 2nd, 2012 videos and that Hardy will make his return to WWE soon.


I mean really Laugh Laugh

Haha and im The Rock ...no really!

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Post by Fernando Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:27 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:
fernando wrote:Have to admire people who make these rumors Laugh


Super Luchas Magazine out of Mexico, which has been a credible source in the past, has started the rumor online that current TNA star and #1 contender to their World Heavyweight Title Jeff Hardy is the man behind WWE's cryptic January 2nd, 2012 videos and that Hardy will make his return to WWE soon.


I mean really Laugh Laugh

Haha and im The Rock ...no really!

It appears its april fools day in Mexico Doh

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Post by Bull Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:50 pm

i think this is an easter egg thing but on WWEO the site which works fine if you type in Jericho on the search bar it will say Malware detected , you may catch a virus etc we believe it may of been hacked by a hacker ? Easter egg?

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Post by Fernando Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:52 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:i think this is an easter egg thing but on WWEO the site which works fine if you type in Jericho on the search bar it will say Malware detected , you may catch a virus etc we believe it may of been hacked by a hacker ? Easter egg?

It ain't coming up for me so may actually be a virus bull

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Post by Guest Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:53 pm

Laugh

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Post by Crimey Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:55 pm

fernando wrote:
TheBrahmaBull wrote:i think this is an easter egg thing but on WWEO the site which works fine if you type in Jericho on the search bar it will say Malware detected , you may catch a virus etc we believe it may of been hacked by a hacker ? Easter egg?

It ain't coming up for me so may actually be a virus bull

Laugh

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Post by Bull Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:56 pm

but if you search anything else it comes up fine

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Post by Crimey Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:00 pm

To be fair, I got the same thing, but I don't think it's anything to do with Jericho. Are you using Chrome Bull?

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Post by Bull Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:01 pm

yes

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Post by ncfc_Tooze Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:04 pm

doesnt do it on IE

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Post by Bull Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:05 pm

censored

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Post by Ché Guerrero Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:16 pm

The biggest clue has to be the end line of the video shown on RAW where the kid says "do you understand" surely that has to be Jericho its his line afterall

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Post by Kay Fabe Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:18 am

After everything that's been dropped, thats what you think is the clincher?

What about when they said "thing's will never be the same again"?

The fact the vocabulary used all the way through has been Jericho-esque

The J on the buttons on the boys blazer

The fact the Globe has always been prominant anytime the kid spoke about 'taking back what is his' - the best in the world moniker (which Jericho nicked himself)

Or for me, the most obvious in the very first promo, the return date

Year 2012
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Post by Bull Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:16 am

not only that the clock is easy the hands are at a Y shape under it where the company logo normal goes there is an upside down J and you can see the clock go to the 2 slowly through out the video

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