Name your rivals

Easy. Name your home nation, then the nation that you consider your main rival & then name the nation you "love passionately" .
Scores will be collated and announced at the end of the evening.

Here's mine.

WALES
ENGLAND
ENGLAND

South Africa.

Main rival New Zealand.

No country I hate, but you could put Bruce under the category of dislike.

I thought England was Saffa's biggest rival, traditionally? I guess SA need a competitive rival so makes sense.

Well you gave me only one rival to mention.

In order of rivalry.

New Zealand
Australia
France
England

In our current form The Women's Auxiliary Balloon Corps 7s team

Why do people 'hate' other rugby nations?

Anyway
Welsh
England
Cayman Islands

How can you hate a whole nation?!?!

Anyway, as an England fan the teams I see as our toughest rivals and always enjoy beating are:

France
Ireland
Austrailia

South Africa and New Zealand provide huge scalps but I personally get more satisfaction from beating the other 3.

England

Not sure about the term rival. NZ is obviously usually the biggest win, but in terms of natural opponent, Australia or France.

I don't hate anyone.

New Zealand
Probably biggest rivals are the Aussies..our shackle dragging cousins know and understand us better than anyone else.
But the team we most respect,dread,and anything else you want to call it( other than hate) is South Africa....

NZ

Rival: South Africa (followed closely by Australia)

Fear: France in September/October every four years.

(Support) England
(Rivals)Wales

Don't hate other teams - I leave that crap to football fans. Probably enjoy beating NZ the most followed by the French but I certainly don't hate either of them and in general appriciate all other rugby playing nations.

As an England fan, our main rivalry has to be the French, followed closely by the Aussies. I know Wales and scotlands whole season can be made by beating England, but those games just don't do it for me.

Anyone who 'hates' a whole country has issues!

Country

Wales
England
Not hate anyone

Region

Dragons
Blues

Club

Ebbw Vale
Newport

My nation: England
Feel the most rivalry with: France and Australia.
Don't hate any nation. What a weird thought.

Bless you sound so diplomatic and nice. I am so glad you have come on here to show how you are such fantastic human beings for letting us all know you don't "hate" anyone. Good for you.

I meant it in a rivalry sense and to dislike to sporting team. Not a country or an entire nation.

Man Utd hate Man City when they play each other etc etc..

Ireland
hmmm England, Wales and France in recent times I suppose. Everyone really.
Don't hate anyone. I have love and respect for all nations

My nation:
New Zealand
Rivals: South Africa then Australia
I don't waste my time hating anyone

My other teams
Crusaders
Rivals: Blues, Brumbies

Marlborough
Rival: Nelson Bays

Tasman (the team resulting from the merger of the Marlborough and Nelson Bays)
Rival: ??

New Zealand.

South Africa is the main rival followed up by Australia.

Hate's too strong a word. The team we can´t bear losing to apart from SA and Australia and that incredibly disruptive but equally impressive French team has to be England.

Rugby doesn´t have the fanatical support of football where hate comes into it based on the colour of your shirt.

My side, Wallabies

Dislike losing to the kiwis, boks and England more than any other sides, but never mind losing to the Scots cause I have a soft spot for them!

Though of course hate losing any game at all!!!! But if we have to as I said don't mind the Scots, or the game against the Irish in Ireland a few years ago when BOD scored in the last minute on his 100th game, a grand try for a very good player, that I didn't mind at all.

Well this backfired on you a tad westernosprey...

England
France or Oz

I also love the rivalries england have with Ireland and scotland, particularly when interacting with their fans. The banter goes up another level

Im Irish. Currently I consider Wales our biggest rivals. It used to be England up until about 2008 or 2009.

Support: Wales
Rivals:
1 Canada,
2 England,
3 Samoa,
4 Fiji,
5 Ireland

Support: Ospreys & Dragons
Rivals:
1 Scarlets
2 Blues

Support Wales

Hate everyone.

viewtothegym wrote:Support Wales

Hate everyone.

Merry xmas view!

How does anyone hate a whole country?
Odd question. History is littered with it particularly in the northern parts.

Sport not necessarily so but still. Good to hear its on odd concept these days. Hope for us all.

I tend to agree with laurie. Oz understand the kiwi psyche better as we are in eachothers back yards in almost every sense of the word...sporting, culture, economy etc...nzers usually ending up second best across the board.

Whereas SA do their thing regardless. We have the highest respect, I just dont think we understand some of their motivations in doing stuff sometimes.

The campese and eales eras were times we were really under the gun.

SA as a playing nation are more dangerous as theyre more inward looking, preferring to close shop and do the job. Oz are optimists. Its in their nature. Get an inch...take a mile sort of thing. They have a never say die approach to all sport and for kiwis sometimes its very intimidating.
Anyway. Xmas hams up soon. Laptops going away for an hour or so.

Morning Taylorman, merry christmas.

The SA psyche is really a simple one. We believe unwaveringly in our own abilities, unfortunately to the point where our determination of our beliefs of doing things our way backfires some times.

It has come through centuries of having to fight for everything we want. There is no faltering in our beliefs, to the point where particularly in sport we are a step behind other leading countries in the way they have already realised that sport has different ways of being played, not just what is in fron of you.

Oh, of course then we also derail ourselves every now and then due to our political situation.

Support: England
Rival: France

And I suppose I take most displeasure in losing to Ireland (maybe because it happens so frequently now days and is just a cumulative thing). Nothing against the country or the people, but if we won just one game this year I'd want it to be the Ireland game.

If we beat Ireland a couple of times on the bounce then my "hated" (not a word I'd use) might change, but definitely the team I support and probably our biggest rival should remain in place permanently.

Support - Australia
Main Rival - NZ
"love passionately" - SA/England

My home nation is Bath,
Biggest current rivalry is with the nation of Gloucester,
Nation passionately against - Leicester - of course.....

Merry Xmas!

Wales
Ireland
The nation I want to beat "for historical rather than only competitive reasons" England.

I like New Zealand abd their cricket team in particular but can't stand their rugby team.

Wales

Want to beat
England
Any Tri Nations team just because they tend to be the biggest teams

Want any of the celtic nations to do well

Support England.

Hate losing to Wales and Ireland and France.

Support All Blacks as ,i have always done since 1953/4 tho an Anglo-Scot.
Biggest rivals the Spring Boks,but in the Pro Era Australia have one more
win against them.
I don`t hate any one and support my native countries when not opposed to
All Blacks.

biltongbek wrote:Morning Taylorman, merry christmas.

The SA psyche is really a simple one. We believe unwaveringly in our own abilities, unfortunately to the point where our determination of our beliefs of doing things our way backfires some times.

It has come through centuries of having to fight for everything we want. There is no faltering in our beliefs, to the point where particularly in sport we are a step behind other leading countries in the way they have already realised that sport has different ways of being played, not just what is in fron of you.

Oh, of course then we also derail ourselves every now and then due to our political situation.

Hi ya Biltong,
Yes thats the part that worries me- the step behind thing. SA I believe have by far the most potential- one is the coaching/ realising the fulll sxv benefits which I think are the same issue, the other being the potential of the 'non-white' players where by generation the numbers will seep through to the upper levels through a sort of natural osmosis to a point where in 20, 30, 40 years or so the culture of the game in SA will look very different.

So for all of us while those wheels of change take a while to start turning we'll take what we can get.

Support the Wobblies, main rivals NZ and SA although losses to NZ seem to hurt more despite all the practice I've had at trying to come to terms with it. I don't know about 'love passionately' but I have a soft spot for P.I. teams.

"full credit" excellent name

Cheers Glas, originally went with "Full Credit to the Boys" but couldn't be bothered typing all that to sign in each time.

From Wales

Rivals: France

Not hate that's bad but want to beat NZ, Aus and SA.

Not really fussed about england.

Full Credit wrote:Cheers Glas, originally went with "Full Credit to the Boys" but couldn't be bothered typing all that to sign in each time.

Full credit to the boys...take the positives out of this...hard day in the office...not far from where we want to be...

It was either that or 'It was a game of 2 halves', another personal favourite. I always have a little side wager with the missus on post match interviews to see how many cliches they manage to rattle off but you can always bank on 'Full Credit to ...'.

Possible recipients of 'Full Credit to...' are, the boys, the lads, the guys, the coaching staff, the opposition, the crowd, my breakfast, etc... all good stuff.

I look forward to:

"yes well, we couldn't really be arsed, it was quite cold, one of the boys' missus has just dumped him and the rest of us took him to a strip joint last night to take his mind off things. Out hearts weren't in it you could say. Mind you the opposition were pants and the referee was awful as ever. Our crowd sounded as though they had a hangover and the pitch is Poopie. We could have pinched it if we'd have been bothered, but hey, there's always next week! The coach won't drop us as we actually did exactly what he wanted us to, even though he's a Cynthia..."

You're a hard man to please Glas, I'd be happy with a simple... "Partial / Some / No Credit to...". Why must it always be 'Full'?

"double cash back credit guarantee to the lads..."

Good work lads very funny...!

Glas a du wrote:Wales
Ireland
The nation I want to beat "for historical rather than only competitive reasons" England.

I like New Zealand abd their cricket team in particular but can't stand their rugby team.

Glas, out of interest, do you support the England and Wales cricket team?

I want the Wales bit to do well.

So you like our cricket team because we get troubled by Bangladesh and Zimbabwe but you don´t like our rugby team Glas a du. I get that. Everyone likes the underdog and everyone wants to topple the team on top.

For what it´s worth, I like Wales and their rugby team in particular but I can´t stand their all-harmony choirs.

At least that's where we can agree. The point about underdogs is spot on.

From: Ireland.

Rivals: Why talk about SH or even England and Wales as rivals when it's France that have scuppered so many of our Six Nations chances. They're the side that have perennially been in our way in the NH, that have stood between Ireland and top-dog position in Europe, and that makes them our biggest rivals.

The rugby nation I love most: - well, they happen to be the best too - New Zealand.

There is a side I least like (not close to hate) - and that goes back to a distinct period in the mid-00s when their then younger overly confident players spoke about Ireland's 'old' men. It lacked grace and mutual rugby respect and I remember it now and again when they play us.

I agree SecretFly, France are the bogey team for Ireland. Surprisingly, Scotland have got a few scalps off you home and away in the past decade but there´s no bickering like there is between you and Wales. It´s interesting how dynamics can change relations between fans.

The Springboks were the main foe for NZ and still are in my opinion. Their home record alone demands respect. But interestingly the younger fans don´t remember how SA used to have one over us and think Australia is the main rival. A few insecurities came over the fans in that semi final. That gloating at the end would never have happened against SA.