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The official 6N squad for Scotland.
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Scotland squad (sponsor RBS) for the matches against England (4 February) and Wales (12 February) in the 2012 RBS 6 Nations Championship:
Backs: Joe Ansbro (London Irish), Mike Blair (Edinburgh Rugby), Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors), Simon Danielli (Ulster), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh Rugby), Max Evans (Castres), Stuart Hogg, Ruaridh Jackson (both Glasgow Warriors), Lee Jones, Greig Laidlaw (both Edinburgh Rugby), Rory Lamont (Glasgow Warriors), Sean Lamont (Scarlets), Rory Lawson (Gloucester), Graeme Morrison (Glasgow Warriors), Dan Parks (Cardiff Blues), Steven Shingler (London Irish) and Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors)
Forwards: John Barclay (Glasgow Warriors), Kelly Brown (Saracens), Geoff Cross, David Denton (both Edinburgh Rugby), Alasdair Dickinson (Sale Sharks), Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby), Richie Gray, Dougie Hall (both Glasgow Warriors), Jim Hamilton (Gloucester), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Allan Jacobsen (Edinburgh Rugby), Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors), Scott Lawson (Gloucester), Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors), Fraser McKenzie (Sale Sharks), Euan Murray (Newcastle Falcons), Ross Rennie (Edinburgh Rugby), Alasdair Strokosch (Gloucester) and Richie Vernon (Sale Sharks).
SIX UNCAPPED PLAYERS IN SCOTLAND SQUAD
Thursday, 05 January 2012
Head coach Andy Robinson has selected six uncapped players in Scotland’s 36-man squad for the opening two matches of the 2012 RBS 6 Nations Championship. They are Lee Jones, the 23-year-old Edinburgh Rugby wing; Stuart Hogg, the 19-year-old Glasgow Warriors full-back; his team-mates, stand-off Duncan Weir, 20 and flanker/lock Robert Harley, 21; Sale Sharks’ former Edinburgh and Dunfermline flanker/lock, 23-year-old Fraser McKenzie; and 20-year-old London Irish centre Steven Shingler.
All 28 available players from last year’s Rugby World Cup squad are included – Chris Paterson and Nathan Hines have now retired – while potential Six Nations debuts could lie ahead for the Edinburgh duo, Greig Laidlaw and David Denton, both of whom have been capped in the EMC Test windows.
Jones, a product of Selkirk has graduated from both Scotland 7s and Scotland A team and has scored six tries in 28 appearances for Edinburgh since making his debut in a pre-season friendly against London Irish in 2010.
Hogg – whose father John was a championship winning full-back and top-notch referee from Hawick, and brother Graham played both age-grade and 7s for Scotland – has won promotion from the Scotland under-20 squad. He made his Glasgow debut last February against the Dragons and has now played 17 times for the Warriors, scoring two tries. Last week Hogg signed a contract that will keep with Glasgow Warriors until at least May 2015.
Weir is currently the top-scorer in the RaboDirect PRO 12 league (145 points) and has represented Scotland at A, 7s and age-grade levels, while both Harley and McKenzie have been part of Scotland squads in the recent past and made a considerable impact in the Scotland A team.
Shingler, born in Swansea and who joined London Irish from Scarlets at the start of this season, qualifies for Scotland through his Dumfries born mum, Jeanette.
He told www.scotlandrugbyteam.org: “I would be massively proud to play for Scotland. My upbringing from my mother means I’ve always known about Scotland.
“I’ve got my gran, auntie, two uncles and two cousins in Langholm and other than the past year I’ve been up 15 years on the bounce to see them around the time of the Common Riding and I’ve competed in the Games as well.”
Robinson said: “I am pleased to reflect on the winning displays we have seen from both Edinburgh Rugby and Glasgow Warriors over the last two months and the contribution a number of our uncapped players have made to them.
“I think what’s also encouraging is that a number of players who have forced their way into contention in that period and who have not made the squad this time, are really knocking on the door and that competition for places can only raise our standards, so this Scotland squad can be very much a work in progress over the coming months.
“We said after the Rugby World Cup that the challenge the Scotland squad must confront is to get on with the business of winning international rugby matches. Potential counts for nothing if you don’t deliver results.”
The squad will gather at St Andrews on the week beginning Monday 23 January before it is trimmed for match specific preparations for Scotland’s opening game of the championship against England at Murrayfield on Saturday 4 February.
Tickets for that match are sold-out, however you can still buy tickets for the Scotland v France game at Murrayfield on Sunday 26 February, kick-off 3pm via the website www.scottishrugby.org.
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From today's Hootsman, and if true, the reason why Robinson must go:
Why pick the man who mustered his side to 7 tries ni the Heino pool when the alternative (Laidlaw) contrived to lead his to 17?
"Dan Parks set to get No 10 nod but Duncan Weir and Greig Laidlaw also have something to offer
by David Ferguson on Friday 27 January 2012
SELECTION has always been cast up as a potential weak spot of Andy Robinson from his days with England where he had a surfeit of talent to try to meld into one successful team, and struggled, through a run of nine wins in 22 Tests.
From the point when the garrulous Brian Moore famously commented that Robinson was a good coach but a poor selector, it was also always going to be an easy tag to hang around his neck as coaches are labelled in the same way players are invariably pigeon-holed. While there were again question marks raised through the World Cup as Robinson switched players about, selection in team sport is never an exact science, so it remains a point of contention.
However, what is clear is that Robinson, along with assistants Gregor Townsend, Graham Steadman and Massimo Cuttitta have a difficult few days to come up with the perfect XV, and indeed 22, to face England in arguably the biggest game in their recent coaching lives.
And, once again, it starts with the No 10 jersey. It is odds-on that Robinson will return to the most experienced option, Dan Parks, simply because he and Parks know what each other expects and understands where the coach wants to take the gameplan. In effect, you know what you get with Parks and that kind of knowledge is always a boon to a coach.
Parks’ kicking game is up there with the best in Test rugby, as a small man among modern rugby’s beasts, his defence needs support and attacking the line and bringing Scottish backs on to the ball at pace will hinge on the amount of confidence he carries into and through the game.
Duncan Weir and Greig Laidlaw are the first choices of Glasgow and Edinburgh supporters, respectively and inevitably, but both have real merit. Weir is the most exciting young stand-off emerging in the Scottish game, with Harry Leonard coming up behind, and is beginning to improve his attacking game to a point where he could conceivably lead the line well at international level.
Laidlaw has a rugby brain like few others in Scotland. He makes few errors, reads where attacks can be most potent, has a box of tricks to alter the direction of attack and possesses a much more creative and accurate boot than many give him credit for.
Is it time to take a chance? England will. Coach Stuart Lancaster is ready to pitch 20-year-old Owen Farrell into the fray after his confident performances with Saracens and his big question appears to be in the centre and who will help guide Farrell through the game. Robinson has experience in Chris Cusiter or Mike Blair at scrum-half, while Sean Lamont, Graeme Morrison, Nick De Luca, Joe Ansbro and Max Evans are all now experienced individuals vying for centre spots, with Evans also a contender for the wing.
So Weir or Laidlaw would have support around them. One senses that Robinson is already reining in his drive for a more expansive style of play as he contemplates the pragmatic option of pairing Parks and Lamont at 10 and 12. But Weir and Laidlaw can kick – bearing in mind Chris Paterson contributed 34 of Scotland’s 82 points in last year’s Six Nations they also need a reliable replacement goalkicker – as well as a more attacking style.
If they go with the experienced Parks, and it’s easy to understand why, then the least the coaches should do is hand Weir or Laidlaw the chance to push their case further off the bench. Both could do with more time at stand-off to develop their game control and knowledge of the role under pressure and at the non-stop, frenetic pace of Test rugby. Both players have something to offer, and could learn hugely from being involved.
Weir is a tempting choice because of the energy he brings to the game, and one would be happy to see him given the opportunity were Laidlaw not there. But Laidlaw can cover both scrum-half and stand-off and not only deserves a chance to come off bench at least, with the way he has gripped Edinburgh as captain this season and led from the front in both the No 9 and 10 jerseys. But, more importantly, the astute Borderer has shown himself to have the ability to make the right decisions to steer a team to victory in the final quarter of matches.
There have been numerous occasions of selections changing and heroes emerging as a tournament progresses, and one feels that Weir and Laidlaw could do that – if given the chance."
Why pick the man who mustered his side to 7 tries ni the Heino pool when the alternative (Laidlaw) contrived to lead his to 17?
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I agree AsLong
If Parks gets a sniff of the starting 22, then we should club together and hire a sniper up at St Andrews.
If he's looking for experience, then he'll find it with Blair, Lamont etc.
Laidlaw has done more than enough to cement the 10 jersey.
Come on Robinson - grow some balls and go for it. England are there for the taking!!
If Parks gets a sniff of the starting 22, then we should club together and hire a sniper up at St Andrews.
If he's looking for experience, then he'll find it with Blair, Lamont etc.
Laidlaw has done more than enough to cement the 10 jersey.
Come on Robinson - grow some balls and go for it. England are there for the taking!!
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If Parks starts the game we'll lose IMO. England will not be expecting a running game. The way Blair and Laidlaw kept LI under the cosh for long periods of time was the perfect way to strain the LI defence to the breaking point.
I would Expect England to defend in much the same way. Laidlaw and Blair showed how to create the spaces on the wings.
If Parks starts Robinson must go. I'm going to keep the faith with him for the moment. Even if we do win I won't be happy if Parks played.
He couldn't open England up in the RWC why does he merit another chance now?
I would Expect England to defend in much the same way. Laidlaw and Blair showed how to create the spaces on the wings.
If Parks starts Robinson must go. I'm going to keep the faith with him for the moment. Even if we do win I won't be happy if Parks played.
He couldn't open England up in the RWC why does he merit another chance now?
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I just read bits of that article again and I don't think any of my true feelings would make it past the censors on my work PC or this Form.
Suffice to say Robbo can't really be considering playing Parks after everything Laidlaw has done in the HC can he?
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"And, once again, it starts with the No 10 jersey. It is odds-on that Robinson will return to the most experienced option, Dan Parks, simply because he and Parks know what each other expects and understands where the coach wants to take the gameplan. In effect, you know what you get with Parks and that kind of knowledge is always a boon to a coach."
If this is the selection criteria - he knows what Parks will do - then he has to go
We all know what Parks can do - sweet FA
We all know what I would do - run 5 yards, attempt a side step, fall over, asked to be subbed off before someone runs over me, then have 6 pints talking about how I could have been great in the bar - does that mean I am a shoe in for the Scotland team?
This IMO is Robinson last chance saloon and if he fails to expand the squad, then he has to go -
In fact I am less bothered about results and more about how we approach the selection -
If this is the selection criteria - he knows what Parks will do - then he has to go
We all know what Parks can do - sweet FA
We all know what I would do - run 5 yards, attempt a side step, fall over, asked to be subbed off before someone runs over me, then have 6 pints talking about how I could have been great in the bar - does that mean I am a shoe in for the Scotland team?
This IMO is Robinson last chance saloon and if he fails to expand the squad, then he has to go -
In fact I am less bothered about results and more about how we approach the selection -
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Riskysports wrote:"And, once again, it starts with the No 10 jersey. It is odds-on that Robinson will return to the most experienced option, Dan Parks, simply because he and Parks know what each other expects and understands where the coach wants to take the gameplan. In effect, you know what you get with Parks and that kind of knowledge is always a boon to a coach."
If this is the selection criteria - he knows what Parks will do - then he has to go
We all know what Parks can do - sweet FA
We all know what I would do - run 5 yards, attempt a side step, fall over, asked to be subbed off before someone runs over me, then have 6 pints talking about how I could have been great in the bar - does that mean I am a shoe in for the Scotland team?
This IMO is Robinson last chance saloon and if he fails to expand the squad, then he has to go -
In fact I am less bothered about results and more about how we approach the selection -
How many times does a little boy wee all over the toilet seat before he learns to put it up? It seems AR is failing to learn a fundamental lesson, a lesson Cardiff Blues fans are learning all too well. He is a 1 dimensional liability.
A painful lesson is always less painful if it is learned from. Parks would never even have made my Squad with Jackson, Weir, laidlaw and Leonard taking the 10 slots. Parks would have been my Scotland A flyhalf and here we have rumours and phrases like "odds on" that we have to put up with this clown again!
The last time I saw him play at Murrayfield was the opening home game of the 6N last year.....look how that turned out. FFS Robbo get a grip!
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To be honest, I simply don't believe this article.
I know it sounds like I'm sticking my head in the sand, but playing Parks wouldn't make any sense. We need chances to score tries, Laidlaw creates these chances and Parks wastes them.
I wouldn't be surprised if Parks was on the bench, since Laidlaw at 10 with Weir on the bench would be a risk too far, but I can't see the gameplan being built around Parks.
I know it sounds like I'm sticking my head in the sand, but playing Parks wouldn't make any sense. We need chances to score tries, Laidlaw creates these chances and Parks wastes them.
I wouldn't be surprised if Parks was on the bench, since Laidlaw at 10 with Weir on the bench would be a risk too far, but I can't see the gameplan being built around Parks.
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Selecting Parks would be indefensible. It should be Laidlaw starting with Weir on the bench. They are the form players and deserve to be there on merit.
I would be staggered if Robinson picked Parks. It would be an awful selection. In the past he's had little choice, now he has choice. There will be plenty of experienced players on the pitch. Blair should be at 9 and Sean Lamont and Nick De Luca in the centres. All these guys have plenty caps and experience. Added to that there is a reasonable expectation that our pack might actually be better than the English pack. A perfect time to blood a new option or two at 10. Merely doing that from the bench, with Scotland likely chasing the game, will not suffice.
I'm pretty loyal to coaches generally, but if Parks starts at 10 then I'd back Robinson being removed after the 6 Nations.
I would be staggered if Robinson picked Parks. It would be an awful selection. In the past he's had little choice, now he has choice. There will be plenty of experienced players on the pitch. Blair should be at 9 and Sean Lamont and Nick De Luca in the centres. All these guys have plenty caps and experience. Added to that there is a reasonable expectation that our pack might actually be better than the English pack. A perfect time to blood a new option or two at 10. Merely doing that from the bench, with Scotland likely chasing the game, will not suffice.
I'm pretty loyal to coaches generally, but if Parks starts at 10 then I'd back Robinson being removed after the 6 Nations.
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funnyExiledScot wrote:Selecting Parks would be indefensible. It should be Laidlaw starting with Weir on the bench. They are the form players and deserve to be there on merit.
I would be staggered if Robinson picked Parks. It would be an awful selection. In the past he's had little choice, now he has choice. There will be plenty of experienced players on the pitch. Blair should be at 9 and Sean Lamont and Nick De Luca in the centres. All these guys have plenty caps and experience. Added to that there is a reasonable expectation that our pack might actually be better than the English pack. A perfect time to blood a new option or two at 10. Merely doing that from the bench, with Scotland likely chasing the game, will not suffice.
I'm pretty loyal to coaches generally, but if Parks starts at 10 then I'd back Robinson being removed after the 6 Nations.
I don't think I could wait that long. Playing Parks is the best way to hamstring our backs. As the game moves ever nearer I'm having horrible visions of Parks and Morrison starting.
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I didnt like reading that article as much as anyone, but when the hell did the Scotsman become experts in Scottish rugby?
I agree picking Parks is a regressive step, as I set out in my previous post, but I support Robinson. I will not be calling for his head if we beat the English.
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by nickj on Fri 20 Jan 2012 - 10:05
.Guys. Come on. Aren't some of you getting a bit carried away here?
I am a big supporter of Robinson. Look where we were when he took over. Aren't you giving him any credit for the lift in standards, moral, gates etc over the last year? I'm not saying its solely down to him but you have to give him some credit. Surely?
No, I don't want him to pick Parks and /or Morrison, but if he did and we beat the English, I'd be chuffed, so I hope would you. I bet you nobody would be calling for his head either.
Yes, we need to blood our youngsters, but I don't think we can blood a new 8, a new 10 and a new 15 at the same time. Especially against the English.
Don't worry Good God Man doesnt have a cat's chance in hell of playing, Jackson may still be fit for the England game but Godman was brought in to make sure AR has two full teams to play against each other for the next fortnight.
I agree that its a regressive step but I think Parks may feature against England. Particularly if Jackson doesnt recover from his injury. But, anyway, look who England are set to play at 10. Hodgson. Yes he's got a pass, but I rate all of our 10's ahead of him.
I'd like Weir or Laidlaw to start, but I'm not sure they will. I think Laidlaw may start on the bench (5/2 split with Morrison) and I think Weir will get the A shirt.
Denton looks set to play at 8. Even if I'm not sure he should, as its not his club position. I know Brown is a natural 6 but he is the more experienced player, so I'd say shift him to 8 and start Dumper at 6 for his debut. I dont rate Vernon but he's a line out option so I think he'll make the bench.
Here's my predicted (not preferred) 22:
R Lamont
J Ansbro
N De Luca
S Lamont
M Evans
R Jackson / D Parks
C Cusiter
D Denton
K Brown
J Barclay / R Rennie
J Hamilton
R Gray
E Murray
R Ford
A Jacobsen
G Morrison
G Laidlaw
R Vernon
A Kellock
A Dickinson
G Cross
S Lawson
I would love to see Hogg, Jones and Scott play, but I see the England game as the barometer for the 6N's and the Scottish season. Win it and we (you) and the press will get off Robbo's back and he continues the feelgood factor around the Scottish game. Lose it and well, its a major negative.
As for the A team, that's our future and I can't wait to see all our young guns go for it. Bring on the big tour in the summer, that wil be the birth of our new team and the swansong for some of the older guys.
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I agree picking Parks is a regressive step, as I set out in my previous post, but I support Robinson. I will not be calling for his head if we beat the English.
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by nickj on Fri 20 Jan 2012 - 10:05
.Guys. Come on. Aren't some of you getting a bit carried away here?
I am a big supporter of Robinson. Look where we were when he took over. Aren't you giving him any credit for the lift in standards, moral, gates etc over the last year? I'm not saying its solely down to him but you have to give him some credit. Surely?
No, I don't want him to pick Parks and /or Morrison, but if he did and we beat the English, I'd be chuffed, so I hope would you. I bet you nobody would be calling for his head either.
Yes, we need to blood our youngsters, but I don't think we can blood a new 8, a new 10 and a new 15 at the same time. Especially against the English.
Don't worry Good God Man doesnt have a cat's chance in hell of playing, Jackson may still be fit for the England game but Godman was brought in to make sure AR has two full teams to play against each other for the next fortnight.
I agree that its a regressive step but I think Parks may feature against England. Particularly if Jackson doesnt recover from his injury. But, anyway, look who England are set to play at 10. Hodgson. Yes he's got a pass, but I rate all of our 10's ahead of him.
I'd like Weir or Laidlaw to start, but I'm not sure they will. I think Laidlaw may start on the bench (5/2 split with Morrison) and I think Weir will get the A shirt.
Denton looks set to play at 8. Even if I'm not sure he should, as its not his club position. I know Brown is a natural 6 but he is the more experienced player, so I'd say shift him to 8 and start Dumper at 6 for his debut. I dont rate Vernon but he's a line out option so I think he'll make the bench.
Here's my predicted (not preferred) 22:
R Lamont
J Ansbro
N De Luca
S Lamont
M Evans
R Jackson / D Parks
C Cusiter
D Denton
K Brown
J Barclay / R Rennie
J Hamilton
R Gray
E Murray
R Ford
A Jacobsen
G Morrison
G Laidlaw
R Vernon
A Kellock
A Dickinson
G Cross
S Lawson
I would love to see Hogg, Jones and Scott play, but I see the England game as the barometer for the 6N's and the Scottish season. Win it and we (you) and the press will get off Robbo's back and he continues the feelgood factor around the Scottish game. Lose it and well, its a major negative.
As for the A team, that's our future and I can't wait to see all our young guns go for it. Bring on the big tour in the summer, that wil be the birth of our new team and the swansong for some of the older guys.
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RuggerRadge2611 wrote: Playing Parks is the best way to hamstring our backs.
To be honest I think its playing rugby thats the problem for Scotland....
Joking aside its an odd thing with Parks. I agree hes been a pretty ,limited player and at times hotrrible. But most of Scotlands best games habvve been with him. It really depends on where yous ee Scotlands strengths lieing.
Is the game against England one where they are likley to get a lot off clean ball from their forwards and have the conditions to attck with slick back moves ( and then the argument are you centers really that good?)
Or is it likely to be another mud fest with two sides still finding their feet ( literaly and metahporicaly) where a stunning display of tactical kicking and a rampaging backrow ( which scotland did have 2 years ago ) is more likely to see Scotland through? The backs are still in existance for when the chances do come, you just arent relying on them to do the meat and drink work.
Its maybe negative thinking, but it used to work pretty well for England when they had Wilko and the rest of the golden boys.
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PSW - you're right. Our best performances in recent times have been with Parks at 10, and he's been quite rightly selected on many occassion where there have been no other options. But that is history. Now there are options. There are better players to choose, players with a more rounded skill set and on better form. Parks remains the best kicker of a ball, but both Laidlaw and Weir are decent kickers, and Blair showed against LI that he hasn't forgotten how to do the tactical stuff.
Nickj is right about one thing though, this is the Scotsman. Lazy journalism haunts Scottish rugby.
Nickj is right about one thing though, this is the Scotsman. Lazy journalism haunts Scottish rugby.
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Lazy or not it defenitly got my back up!
I just can't see how Robinson who was present for the London Irish game has any doubts about who his half back pairing should be.
I just can't see how Robinson who was present for the London Irish game has any doubts about who his half back pairing should be.
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Perhaps he doesn't. This could well just be a journalist struggling to fill column inches.
As you say, there really shouldn't be much debate about the 10 jersey. The big debates for me are at 8, wing and full back.
As you say, there really shouldn't be much debate about the 10 jersey. The big debates for me are at 8, wing and full back.
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Unfortunately DF is usually remarkably well informed
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AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Unfortunately DF is usually remarkably well informed
In that case it's perhaps a calculated move to throw England off the scent? That must be murder for the Morale of players like Laidlaw and Weir who are in form and ignored because of Robbo's flawed game plan.
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When is the team named? Is it usually the Wednesday before the game?
I was under the impression the squad was due to be trimmed soon too?
I was under the impression the squad was due to be trimmed soon too?
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Presumably Tuesday or Wednesday. Don't know about trimming the squad.
Hopefully at the very least we can assume that Danielli won't be needed!
Hopefully at the very least we can assume that Danielli won't be needed!
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Why in pity's sake would anyone want to read the bloody Scotsman anyway ?
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21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Why in pity's sake would anyone want to read the bloody Scotsman anyway ?
Because they spend so much time whinging about the "English" media?
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21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Why in pity's sake would anyone want to read the bloody Scotsman anyway ?
Ferguson and Morrison are rubbish in the Hootsmon, but still better than Ferrie in the Herald, and better than no coverage in the English heavies. Don't even mention the Record.
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Team confirmed to be named on Tuesday just before 2pm.
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Joe Ansbro has failed to recover from a back injury so is heading back to London Irish. http://www.scotlandrugbyteam.org/content/view/2815/2/
This must make a debut for at least one of Hogg or Jones a certainty.
Denton has recovered from the injury that kept him out of Edinburgh's last game though.
This must make a debut for at least one of Hogg or Jones a certainty.
Denton has recovered from the injury that kept him out of Edinburgh's last game though.
Pat_Mustard- Posts : 601
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
I suspect it'll be Jones. Hogg is a waste on the wing.
Scot Abroad- Posts : 531
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Yes - NDL guaranteed to play 13 now unless his injury prevents it.
If NDL is injured then I'd slot Max Evans in at 13 and play Rory Lamont and Lee Jones on the wings with Stuart Hogg at 15.
If NDL is injured then I'd slot Max Evans in at 13 and play Rory Lamont and Lee Jones on the wings with Stuart Hogg at 15.
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Of course there's always Danielli! Or Lamont on a wing with Morrison at centre! Plenty of ways to avoid giving youth a chance!
Pat_Mustard- Posts : 601
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Pat_Mustard wrote:Of course there's always Danielli! Or Lamont on a wing with Morrison at centre! Plenty of ways to avoid giving youth a chance!
DON'T!!!!
I'm having enough trouble controlling my temper on the other thread!
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Morrison at 12 and S Lamont on the wing is a possibility (certainly not what I'd go for) but I think Danielli is out of the equation. Apparently not fit, hasn't played for weeks and before being dropped from the Ulster squad he was on terrible form.
With Danielli out, Walker injured and now Ansbro ruled out, Lee Jones will surely make his debut on the wing.
With Danielli out, Walker injured and now Ansbro ruled out, Lee Jones will surely make his debut on the wing.
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
What scares me most about this game is people are almost writing England off already, including the English themselves. Leaving an England team with something to prove is very dangerous indeed, I feel like we'd be best off going all out and picking Laidlaw and Blair and hit this match full on. I'd love to see a performance like the France match last year, except with the scoreline in Scotland's favour obviously. We need to be brave in our selections, otherwise we'll only ever be low table, out at quarter/before quarters.
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I haven't seen anyone write England off. They are still favourites to win the game in my book. Don't think we have a single back that would get into the England team.
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
nickj - playing Jackson makes less sense than Parks. He is being kept out team the team by Weir.
Laidlaw is the most exciting Scots player I have seen for a long time, Weir the pragmatic option.
If Robinson plays Parks he will lose the support of the fans and be out of a job by the end of the 6 nations
Laidlaw is the most exciting Scots player I have seen for a long time, Weir the pragmatic option.
If Robinson plays Parks he will lose the support of the fans and be out of a job by the end of the 6 nations
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
OK, with much dismay, here is my final prediction on the matchday squad that I think Robbo will go with:
15 Lamont
14 Jones
13 De Luca
12 S. Lamont
11 Evans
10 Parks
9 Cusiter
1 Jacobson
2 Ford
3 Murray
4 Gray
5 Hamilton
6 Strokosch
7 Rennie
8 Denton
Subs: S Lawson, Dickinson , Kellock, Barclay, Blair, Laidlaw, Morrison
3 completely wasted inclusions, half-backs should switch between bench and starting, and where the f is Hogg?
15 Lamont
14 Jones
13 De Luca
12 S. Lamont
11 Evans
10 Parks
9 Cusiter
1 Jacobson
2 Ford
3 Murray
4 Gray
5 Hamilton
6 Strokosch
7 Rennie
8 Denton
Subs: S Lawson, Dickinson , Kellock, Barclay, Blair, Laidlaw, Morrison
3 completely wasted inclusions, half-backs should switch between bench and starting, and where the f is Hogg?
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Agreed - although I think he'll start Barclay and have Rennie on the bench, but that's the team I'd predict as well. He may also switch Dickinson for Cross based on the Edinburgh vs LI game.
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Id put Shingler at 12
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Dickinson out with injury, Cross will presumably now be on the bench
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
That means we'll concede half as many penalties now Asbo.AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Dickinson out with injury, Cross will presumably now be on the bench
Sorry to hear about Ansbro but he really doesn't sound right at the moment.
I think that Robinson's greatest adventure will be Laidlaw at 10 and I agree that he's more likely to 'risk' Jones on the wing than Hogg at 15. I would love to think he's got big enough stones to make both changes and opt for an internationally inexperienced but flair attacking back 3.
This would buck everything that we know about Robinson, however.
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Re: The official 6N squad for Scotland.
Accodring to the Hootsman this morning Rory Lawson was training with the A team - so that's at least one selection issue made slightly clearer!
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