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Post by BorrisTheBlade Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:17 pm

I would like to start off by saying I was a huge Amir Khan fan but have recently thought twice about fighting his corner each time a debate surfaces. I often see alot of Khan bashing on this board and have occasionly defended him but im begining to agree with alot of his doubters.

Here's a few reasons why my support for him is on the decline...

1) He has become extremely arrogant since the Maidana fight and it has showed. As soon as he squashed the doubts surrounding his chin, a more cocky and reckless Amir has developed.

2) Maidana gave Khan a good close fight, some were even insisting on a rematch. However, Khan felt there was no need and continued with his career (Fair Enough).

3) Khan loses to Peterson in another close fight. However, he is absoloutely furious for not getting an immediate rematch. Yet was happy to refuse Maidana a rematch after they had the fight of the year.

4) He clearly overlooked Peterson in this fight and was exposed as a limited inside fighter.

5) He talks absoloute rubbish and creates the infamous 'Khanspiracy.'

6) Before the fight, he refers to himself as a 'Road Warrior' and how he goes into opponents backyards to fight them. Well, had he of spoken to Glen Johnson prior to the fight negotiations, old Glen would hav explained why that isn't a good idea.

7) Khan spoke to BHOP before the Paterson fight, who advised him that he would be down 2 rounds even before the bell rang. Khan took on board this advice.

8) Khan then knowing what he knows, goes into this fight, and hopes to win on a close decision?? In my opinion, the fight should have been called a draw but like Degale-Groves it was awfully close and could have gone either way.

9) Khan went into the fight in the hope that his championship status would bag him the close rounds, however because he was fighting in Petersons back yard, this made the close rounds go to the judges discretion.

10) I won't be too surprised if Mayweather-Peterson is announced tommorow, because Mayweather fought Ortiz off the back of one big win against Berto (totally off topic but i heard Mayweather bet heavily on Berto to beat Ortiz, so he thought he'd get his money back by fighting and kicking Ortiz's ass). Khan was tipped to fight Mayweather this year or next, so Petersons victory has surely allowed him to get his arse handed to him first.

A message to Khan- get over this fight and get on with your career. Peterson wont give you a rematch for the same reasons you didnt give Maidana one- because it is a dangerous fight!!

Stop being so desperate and respect your opponents in future!!

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:25 pm

Why is it hard being an Amir Khan fan? Daft question really a bit like asking why is it hard to take a dump with your bum cheeks clenched together?

He's a horrible person and 'Team Khan' are just as bad.
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Post by John Bloody Wayne Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:29 pm

It's frustrating supporting a guy with many natural gifts in terms of speed and coordination, who doesn't use them.

A guy who could be Britain's top boxer, and represents us by b!tching and moaning at everything that doesn't go his way.

Makes me think finding stardom at his age has growth-stunting effect. How old was he when he won the silver medal? 17? It must be hard to have normal interaction and grow up at the same rate a normal person would.

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Post by BorrisTheBlade Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:30 pm

Why is it hard being an Amir Khan fan? Daft question really a bit like asking why is it hard to take a dump with your bum cheeks clenched together?
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I take it thats what you were doing when reading the title?

Read it again and notice how rearranging two simple words can make a huge difference.. call it a rhetoric question..!!

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:33 pm

Hard/difficult pretty much the same question!

My point is still the same he's a vile human being and so are his team and his promoters.
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Post by Steffan Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:35 pm

Khan is a very exciting fighter and comes across as a decent enough guy (a bit think at times I do agree). Really cannot understand why he doesnt get the support from the Isles like Hatton, Calzaghe and Haye got as he wants to fight the best and is always in a good fight

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:38 pm

Nobody gets support like Hatton and no boxer will probably ever get that sort of support on these shores again.

Haye is a heavyweight. People like the big guys for some reason.

Calzaghe was Welsh like us Scots you lot don't have much else to cheer about. Wink

Look at the likes of Froch it's hard to build yourself superstar status in Britain unless you are a freakish talent like Nas or a man of the people like Hatton.
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Post by BorrisTheBlade Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:39 pm

Why is it hard being an Amir Khan fan? Daft question really a bit like asking why is it hard to take a dump with your bum cheeks clenched together?

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Post by BorrisTheBlade Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:40 pm

just read the title again and lets move on..SugarRayRussell..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:41 pm

Think Khan needs a Pr man....I mean the if the guy put on the pretence of being humble even if he isn't (like Bruno) it could open more doors and up his ppv numbers etc...

Ideally he would have just said he fought the wrong fight against Lamont, slapped him out in a rematch and all would've been forgiven..

He lacks class, has a poor Boxing brain and now has frozen out a lot of would be fans with his attitude..

This may be controversial.....but I've noticed ethnicity is a sensitive thing in parts of this Country and with millions out of work and many waiting for say Council houses....Khan coming from a minor ethnic group has less scope than others for transgression....

It's true and it shouldn't be...

Certainly needs a PR man because all this anti-Khan garbage could be reversed should he ever show the maturity he lacks..

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:44 pm

BorrisTheBlade wrote:Why is it hard being an Amir Khan fan? Daft question really a bit like asking why is it hard to take a dump with your bum cheeks clenched together?

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I think you'll find there was a question in my post! I said is it not it is so it appears you have made a bit of a Holly Wilaboobie of yourself!
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Post by Steffan Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:49 pm

SugarRayRussell wrote:Nobody gets support like Hatton and no boxer will probably ever get that sort of support on these shores again.

You could be right on that one. Difference is he attracted a lot of "casual" fans to his fights

SugarRayRussell wrote:Haye is a heavyweight. People like the big guys for some reason.

I guess so. No one ever seemed to complain when Haye was being arrogant or cocky though everyone just said he is just hyping up his fight


SugarRayRussell wrote:Calzaghe was Welsh like us Scots you lot don't have much else to cheer about. Wink

I was one of the thousands of Welsh who travelled to Vegas and New York for Calzaghes American fights. I hope Burns and Cleverly get the same support. To be fair we did make it to the semi-final of the rugby world cup where as you lot went out in the group stages Wink

SugarRayRussell wrote:Look at the likes of Froch it's hard to build yourself superstar status in Britain unless you are a freakish talent like Nas or a man of the people like Hatton.

Doesnt help that Froch has the personality of a goldfish


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Post by Rowley Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:49 pm

I try not to be too harsh on what he says because for me he is just a bit thick which is not a crime and much prefer to judge him on what he does in the ring, which in terms of opposition has been pretty good post Prescott, also he is a kid, dread to think that every comment I made at 24 would be printed and published nationally.

However Truss is bang right that he needs someone better managing his PR because he does have some disasters, he makes a lot of comments that make him seem money orientated and obsessed, nothing wrong with this but would be of benefit in the depths of a recession to reign it in a bit. Also have to say his actions post Petersen have been hard to justify, whatever the truth of what happened which appears to be little more than a harsh ref he has come across as a very poor loser which is never an endearing quality, as Truss says admit you fought the wrong fight, knuckle down on your flaws and win the rematch.

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Post by BorrisTheBlade Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:51 pm

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Why is it hard being an Amir Khan fan? Daft question really a bit like asking why is it hard to take a dump with your bum cheeks clenched together?

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i know you were trying to be sarcy with the title of this article and it backfired but moving on.... OK

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:53 pm

Never backfired on me. You tried to be smart but you were wrong.

Learn to use the quote button I don't need to know my location and how many posts I've made!
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 5:53 pm

Come on guys...kiss and make up..

Rowley I think you're right..he is a bit thick..

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Post by BorrisTheBlade Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:01 pm

SugarRayRussell wrote:Why is it hard being an Amir Khan fan? Daft question really a bit like asking why is it hard to take a dump with your bum cheeks clenched together?

He's a horrible person and 'Team Khan' are just as bad.


Oh so you were asking a question in your post and then dismissing it with an unfunny sarcastic comment..yup makes perfect sense.. OK

or....you were trying to take the mick out of the title..read it incorrectly..and now are trying to justify your stupidity...give it a rest..

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Post by BorrisTheBlade Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:03 pm

i agree with Rowley also..needs a new team..but blood is thicker then water in this case..

Cant stand Asif Vali..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:05 pm

Mate you've written a thread that's only slightly shorter than "War and peace"...

A worthy piece...

Why insist on ruining your own thread with pedantic garbage!!!!

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:10 pm

Sweet Jesus. Khan is no different from most boxers. Sure he is not the most humble guy around. He is cocky and sometimes comes across as arrogant. I'd rather see that as self belief and sure of himself. If a boxer enters the profession and wants to be the best, not possessing self belief and being arrogant are attributes he should have. If not, give up.

Sure the latest episode has put a few backs up. But if you understand the business of boxing, you will realise that Khan is just a passenger. Of course he believes he was robbed. Ask any boxer who lost a close (discount the points deduction) to rewatch their fight again, they will only see the punches they land and the fouls their oponent commits.

To this very day Marvin Hagler gets wound up at the mere mention of SRL. He said he had sleepless nights for over 10 years, became very bitter about it all. Cost him his marriage. That is boxers for you. Some can move on, some can't so easiy.

The bottom line is, GBP launched the appeal. Do you think Khan went banging into Oscar ad Schaefer's door demanding that they launch an enquiry? The fact Khan supports the enquiry is neither here nor there. He hasn't once said that Peterson should be stripped of the title. When asked, he says he wants a rematch. Fair play. But his detractors will find some excuse to berate him for that. Khan gets the flack because Khan gets interviewed.

Khan said he wanted to fight Floyd. Khan gets called arrogant. Instead of praising him for wanting to be the best, he gets criticised. Regardless of what he says of does, he will always attract negative attenion from his detractors.

As for his boxing, he probably thinks he is betetr than he actually is. Is that really a crime>? A reason to hate him? I think his boxing is seriously flawed. I've said that since the begining of his career. But fair play to the kid to trying to be the very best. And I'm on record here in saying that Peterson will win a rematch convincingly because Khan has a very poor jab and cant control range. Seeing as his inside game is shockingly bad, it spells trouble against Peterson who is a better more rounded fighter.

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Post by Steffan Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:13 pm

Totally agree with Az on this one

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:16 pm

Just because others have shown no class doesn't mean this guy gets a free pass...

the kid has blamed everyone and everybody...don't remember Hagler doing that!!

He was sore at the decision but didn't go around slandering all and sundry..

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:20 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Just because others have shown no class doesn't mean this guy gets a free pass...

the kid has blamed everyone and everybody...don't remember Hagler doing that!!

He was sore at the decision but didn't go around slandering all and sundry..

Everytime he was asked Hagler said he won. Never gane credit to SRL. Plus at the time we didn't have the same type of communication we have now.

Ah, so berating boxers who show no class sharts with Khan. Interestngly getting points deducted for pushing opponents away also starts with Khan. The kid should accept it all.....with class and be humble also.

Maybe future boxers should have lessons taught about showing class when they feel they've been royally screwed.

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Post by Steffan Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:22 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Just because others have shown no class doesn't mean this guy gets a free pass...

I agree there Truss. I just think maybe he shouldnt be given such a hard time either

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:30 pm

But he's different than everybody else...People from his ethnic origin aren't exactly very popular over here at the moment..(sad but true)

Whether he likes it or not he has to be more mature than others....because some people don't really need an excuse to dislike him..and ideally he needs to show class and unite.....

Unfortunately his origin is a blessing and a stone round his neck at the same time..

logistics are different for him..

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:36 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:But he's different than everybody else...People from his ethnic origin aren't exactly very popular over here at the moment..(sad but true)

Whether he likes it or not he has to be more mature than others....because some people don't really need an excuse to dislike him..and ideally he needs to show class and unite.....

Unfortunately his origin is a blessing and a stone round his neck at the same time..

logistics are different for him..

I'll let others respond and deny that.

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Post by Steffan Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:36 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:But he's different than everybody else

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Post by Rowley Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:39 pm

azania wrote:

Everytime he was asked Hagler said he won. Never gane credit to SRL. Plus at the time we didn't have the same type of communication we have now.


To be fair Az think a lot of people did go off Marv when he launched his appeal against the Leonard result.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:42 pm

Will Khan really care if he is liked? He's making a lot of money. Nobody seemed to like Nas but he made big money so he never cared. If your a boxing fan you'll watch his fights maybe even buy them if they are PPV so I doubt he really cares.
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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:45 pm

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azania wrote:

Everytime he was asked Hagler said he won. Never gane credit to SRL. Plus at the time we didn't have the same type of communication we have now.


To be fair Az think a lot of people did go off Marv when he launched his appeal against the Leonard result.

Fair enough. GBP are launching the appeal to overturn the decision. Silly of them. That's the reason for the appeal.

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:48 pm

SugarRayRussell wrote:Will Khan really care if he is liked? He's making a lot of money. Nobody seemed to like Nas but he made big money so he never cared. If your a boxing fan you'll watch his fights maybe even buy them if they are PPV so I doubt he really cares.

Nas was hugely popular in his day. He was a little like marmite to many but more popular that not.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:51 pm

azania wrote:
SugarRayRussell wrote:Will Khan really care if he is liked? He's making a lot of money. Nobody seemed to like Nas but he made big money so he never cared. If your a boxing fan you'll watch his fights maybe even buy them if they are PPV so I doubt he really cares.

Nas was hugely popular in his day. He was a little like marmite to many but more popular that not.

Plenty of people who are old enough to remember say they never liked Sugar Ray Leonard. I would have to imagine he never cared when he was making big money. Floyd Mayweather is another hated figure but he clearly doesn't care he loves it.

Maybe Kahn is trying to replace Floyd as the pantomime villain of boxing. Even if you buy the fight just to see him get beat he doesn't care because you are buying it.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 6:57 pm

Always thought as many people wanted to see Naz destroyed as wanted him to win...

Never thought he was popular...just divisive like the popular Eubank..

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:11 pm

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SugarRayRussell wrote:Will Khan really care if he is liked? He's making a lot of money. Nobody seemed to like Nas but he made big money so he never cared. If your a boxing fan you'll watch his fights maybe even buy them if they are PPV so I doubt he really cares.

Nas was hugely popular in his day. He was a little like marmite to many but more popular that not.

Plenty of people who are old enough to remember say they never liked Sugar Ray Leonard. I would have to imagine he never cared when he was making big money. Floyd Mayweather is another hated figure but he clearly doesn't care he loves it.

Maybe Kahn is trying to replace Floyd as the pantomime villain of boxing. Even if you buy the fight just to see him get beat he doesn't care because you are buying it.

I was one of those who wanted SRL dumped on his rear end. But he wanted to mbe liked. He was the US boxing media darling. He even sold toothpaste if I recall correctly.

Thing is Khan wants to be liked I reckon. He says nothing controversial yet gets called allsorts.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:14 pm

What the hell has toothpaste got to do with it.....

Leonard had class...knew how to handle the media....said the right things and acted like a gentleman..apart from being ten times more talented...

I know you hate America but come on!!!

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:17 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What the hell has toothpaste got to do with it.....

Leonard had class...knew how to handle the media....said the right things and acted like a gentleman..apart from being ten times more talented...

I know you hate America but come on!!!

Of course he knew how to play the media. I just detested that suggary sweet attitude he came with. Class? Refusing to rematch Hearns and Hagler and then getting Duran after he knew Duran wouldn't be at his best due to partying.

As for hating America. I hate Yanks so much I decided to marry one. And for my hatred had my freaking inlaws stay during the holiday season. Thankfully they've gone.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:19 pm

Ever heard of divorce??????

Class = refusing to rematch Hearns and Hagler????

You really are scraping the barrel so far...it's pointless arguing with you!!

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:20 pm

He never says anything??????

He has issues with being liked or loved. Sort of like Carl Froch who is eager to be the fabled "household name" but he is as exciting as a potato. Khan wants legend status but he is not the type to click with the public. Ali could do it, so to Naz and Eubank. Its a gift you either have it or not Khan does not have it.

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Post by Steffan Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:20 pm

azania wrote:As for hating America. I hate Yanks so much I decided to marry one. And for my hatred had my freaking inlaws stay during the holiday season. Thankfully they've gone.

Didnt know you liked big women Az. Was there any food left after the inlaws stayed?

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:22 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Ever heard of divorce??????

Class = refusing to rematch Hearns and Hagler????

You really are scraping the barrel so far...it's pointless arguing with you!!

She's american. You dont divorce them unless you have hidden assets or want to be taken to the cleaners.

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Post by Steffan Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:23 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Sort of like Carl Froch who is eager to be the fabled "household name" but he is as exciting as a potato

Good comparision. Both are pretty tasteless at times as well

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:24 pm

Steffan wrote:
azania wrote:As for hating America. I hate Yanks so much I decided to marry one. And for my hatred had my freaking inlaws stay during the holiday season. Thankfully they've gone.

Didnt know you liked big women Az. Was there any food left after the inlaws stayed?

Laugh

Part of the wedding vows was not to go over size 8. 10 at a push. As for the food, her dad has an appetite. He looks like the Dad from the fresh prince.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:24 pm

Funny how you come out with the racial stereotyping you find so abhorrent in others....

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:27 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Funny how you come out with the racial stereotyping you find so abhorrent in others....

Who?

And since when have americans been a seperate race?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:40 pm

The American race.....

You're sensitive Az..it's why you can't ever let anything go or stop arguing..

Throw that chip away....

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:52 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:The American race.....

You're sensitive Az..it's why you can't ever let anything go or stop arguing..

Throw that chip away....
Give it a rest trussy and stop whining like a female dog. There's no such thing as an american race. American nationality only. USA is an immigrant nation composed of many races.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:54 pm

I'm not whining..I'm just suggesting you're too sensitive....

you could find an argument in an empty room!!!!

I've never been too ashamed to explore feminine side either.. Cool

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 7:58 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm not whining..I'm just suggesting you're too sensitive....

you could find an argument in an empty room!!!!

I've never been too ashamed to explore feminine side either.. Cool
god. You were the one who made the stupid allegation that I disliked SRL because he was American.....and you call me sensitive. You must be american make and change the rules as it suits you and expect others to forget instantly.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Jan 2012, 8:01 pm

Well you have previous.....

Maybe it's all the American bashing you do when remarking on Rocky Marciano....

But no that was "White America" wasn't it...a phrase you use so often...

No generalising there!!!!!!

Color stereotyping at it's worst!!!...

Yep no chip on your shoulder!!

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Post by azania Mon 09 Jan 2012, 8:05 pm

Look at context sonny boy. That comment was at a time when America practiced apartheid.

And no, I'm well balanced. The chip is on both shoulders.

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