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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:19 am

First topic message reminder :

IBF meeting next week to decide on the matter.

Question, if IBF don't order immediate rematch do you think Peterson will only put WBA belt on the line as a safety measure so that if he loses he still retains a title?

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Post by azania Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:15 pm

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azania wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Well he is, nothing he's said makes any sense.

It made perfect sense, but to me it was a pack of lies. Surprisingly it took him 2 weeks to come up with that story.

Who could possibly have been scored three nines in the first three rounds, neither of them, it's a complete impossibility.

Yep. The guy was lying through his teeth.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:58 pm

Nore Staat wrote:Who is Mr Welsh? The three judges were, George Hill, Valerie Dorsett and Nelson Vasquez.

Their score cards are photocopied here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/8997850/How-the-scoring-was-calculated-in-the-Amir-Khan-v-Lamont-Petersen-bout.html

The BBC Report of the "mystery mans" comments is here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/16618791.stm

Those aren't the original scorecards, they are the copy compiled by the fight supervisor after the fight has finished. We have never seen the original score cards. Which is another reason why this Ameen dick is lying through his teeth, the guy he was talking to wasn't a judge therefore mid-fight he couldn't have been alerting him to anything.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:01 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:My god that was cringeworthy - playing it all over the news - his cowardice. He was begging to go on the rescue boat.

The harbourmaster demanded he go back to the ship but instead he snook off into the port and caught a taxi home!! Disgusting, hope he goes to jail and is never allowed to work in the ship/cruise industry again.

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Post by manos de piedra Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:06 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:My god that was cringeworthy - playing it all over the news - his cowardice. He was begging to go on the rescue boat.

The harbourmaster demanded he go back to the ship but instead he snook off into the port and caught a taxi home!! Disgusting, hope he goes to jail and is never allowed to work in the ship/cruise industry again.

He claims he tripped and fell into a lifeboat while trying to coordinate the rescue. Has to be one of the worst excuses ever.

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Post by azania Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:07 pm

manos de piedra wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:My god that was cringeworthy - playing it all over the news - his cowardice. He was begging to go on the rescue boat.

The harbourmaster demanded he go back to the ship but instead he snook off into the port and caught a taxi home!! Disgusting, hope he goes to jail and is never allowed to work in the ship/cruise industry again.

He claims he tripped and fell into a lifeboat while trying to coordinate the rescue. Has to be one of the worst excuses ever.

Exactly. A bit like Ameen's excuse.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:09 pm

manos de piedra wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:My god that was cringeworthy - playing it all over the news - his cowardice. He was begging to go on the rescue boat.

The harbourmaster demanded he go back to the ship but instead he snook off into the port and caught a taxi home!! Disgusting, hope he goes to jail and is never allowed to work in the ship/cruise industry again.

He claims he tripped and fell into a lifeboat while trying to coordinate the rescue. Has to be one of the worst excuses ever.

Shah summed it up perfectly - cringeworthy!

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Post by manos de piedra Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:15 pm

azania wrote:
manos de piedra wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:My god that was cringeworthy - playing it all over the news - his cowardice. He was begging to go on the rescue boat.

The harbourmaster demanded he go back to the ship but instead he snook off into the port and caught a taxi home!! Disgusting, hope he goes to jail and is never allowed to work in the ship/cruise industry again.

He claims he tripped and fell into a lifeboat while trying to coordinate the rescue. Has to be one of the worst excuses ever.

Exactly. A bit like Ameen's excuse.

Probably. But I just think the guy wasnt supposed to be there and certainly not meant to be talking to Welsh and now hes just trying to cover his own ass.

I cant believe there would actually have been a plan for this guy to go in and sit there and rig the cards in full view of everyone. Theres just way too many holes and its such a stupid idea. If this was an out and robbery that produced cards that were impossible to justify then I might be suspicious but the 113-112 matched my own scorecard, was a fair enough reflection of the fight and there wasnt any guy in a hat sitting near me when I watched it.

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Post by azania Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:28 pm

I dont for one minute claim some sort of conspiracy going on. But one thing for some is that Ameen is lying (imo). Some sort of conspiracy would be easy to expose especially infront of a camera and in such an obvious manner. Not even boxing is that stupid. But who knows what Ameen said to Walsh? Could he have influenced him to change cards by saying he made an error? Who knows? As ghosty for him to score 3 nines for the first 3 rounds is simply a lie because its impossible for any boxer to score a 9 in the first round.

I had it 113-112 Khan even with the deductions.

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:52 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Those aren't the original scorecards, they are the copy compiled by the fight supervisor after the fight has finished. We have never seen the original score cards. Which is another reason why this Ameen dick is lying through his teeth, the guy he was talking to wasn't a judge therefore mid-fight he couldn't have been alerting him to anything.
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Post by lovely_london Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:19 pm

azania wrote:I dont for one minute claim some sort of conspiracy going on. But one thing for some is that Ameen is lying (imo). Some sort of conspiracy would be easy to expose especially infront of a camera and in such an obvious manner. Not even boxing is that stupid. But who knows what Ameen said to Walsh? Could he have influenced him to change cards by saying he made an error? Who knows? As ghosty for him to score 3 nines for the first 3 rounds is simply a lie because its impossible for any boxer to score a 9 in the first round.

I had it 113-112 Khan even with the deductions.

which rounds did you have as khan winning?

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Post by azania Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:22 pm

lovely_london wrote:
azania wrote:I dont for one minute claim some sort of conspiracy going on. But one thing for some is that Ameen is lying (imo). Some sort of conspiracy would be easy to expose especially infront of a camera and in such an obvious manner. Not even boxing is that stupid. But who knows what Ameen said to Walsh? Could he have influenced him to change cards by saying he made an error? Who knows? As ghosty for him to score 3 nines for the first 3 rounds is simply a lie because its impossible for any boxer to score a 9 in the first round.

I had it 113-112 Khan even with the deductions.

which rounds did you have as khan winning?

Off head I cant remember. I recall saying that in the aftermath of the fight and seeing it a few days later.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:28 pm

I had it as a Khan win even with the deductions too but can't argue with Peterson getting the nod either way, think you could make a case for each fighter winning 7/8 rounds but no more than that.

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Post by lightsout Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:02 am

Imperial Ghosty wrote:What is with the full stops?
Do they not teach kids how to write proper sentences nowadays?

Not a chance in hell should the fight against Maidana have been stopped and you should possibly watch any Hearns interview from early on in his career, he's always talked like that.

Apologies for not punctuating my comment to your exacting standards............... don't read them in future..........................Hearns has not always spoken the way he does today............. he is victim.........

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:02 pm

Actually can't make sense of that, watch the build up to the fight with Hagler and you will soon notice that he's always talked with a slurred voice.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:24 pm

I've just heard that the immediate rematch can be put off for a unification bout.
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Post by lightsout Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:52 am

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Actually can't make sense of that, watch the build up to the fight with Hagler and you will soon notice that he's always talked with a slurred voice.

Shocked ................ so you're saying that the fight with Hagler was Hearns first ever fight now and that he'd no previous experience in the ring up till that point in time ie never received any previous damage which may have been influenced through his fighting style which was exciting ( if you're into a mash up ) but left him open..........ie never could have possibly had any damage to the brain previous to that point through the sport of boxing ie that was the first ever time he'd taken to the sport and through good luck had landed himself with a top professional bout 'totally amazing'...............that is what you're saying..............and you want to engage in discussions with other members of this forum in a reasonble fashion .................the most accurate comment you've made has been about my punctuation but then again this not an English Language forum so was a petty comment born of what? Are you frustrated in your day to day life ..............................................

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Post by Union Cane Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:25 am

lightsout wrote: Shocked ................ so you're saying that the fight with Hagler was Hearns first ever fight now and that he'd no previous experience in the ring up till that point in time ie never received any previous damage which may have been influenced through his fighting style which was exciting ( if you're into a mash up ) but left him open..........ie never could have possibly had any damage to the brain previous to that point through the sport of boxing ie that was the first ever time he'd taken to the sport and through good luck had landed himself with a top professional bout 'totally amazing'...............that is what you're saying..............and you want to engage in discussions with other members of this forum in a reasonble fashion .................the most accurate comment you've made has been about my punctuation but then again this not an English Language forum so was a petty comment born of what? Are you frustrated in your day to day life ..............................................

Calm down mate.
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Post by lightsout Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:46 am

Union Cane wrote:
lightsout wrote: Shocked ................ so you're saying that the fight with Hagler was Hearns first ever fight now and that he'd no previous experience in the ring up till that point in time ie never received any previous damage which may have been influenced through his fighting style which was exciting ( if you're into a mash up ) but left him open..........ie never could have possibly had any damage to the brain previous to that point through the sport of boxing ie that was the first ever time he'd taken to the sport and through good luck had landed himself with a top professional bout 'totally amazing'...............that is what you're saying..............and you want to engage in discussions with other members of this forum in a reasonble fashion .................the most accurate comment you've made has been about my punctuation but then again this not an English Language forum so was a petty comment born of what? Are you frustrated in your day to day life ..............................................

Calm down mate.

errrrr.....O.K I can see I hit a nerve there........can you point out to me where my previous comment alters from the tone set by the previous comments.......

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Post by Rowley Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:46 am

Az writing a "do brits love losers" thread, lightouts using an excessive amount of full stops. Someone tell Truss his act is being ripped off.

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Post by Union Cane Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:50 am

lightsout wrote:
Union 'Michaels' Cane wrote:Calm down mate.

errrrr.....O.K I can see I hit a nerve there........can you point out to me where my previous comment alters from the tone set by the previous comments.......

Yeah that's it, you hit a nerve.

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I can't point anything out because I can't understand what you are saying. This is not, as you mentioned, an "English Language Forum", but it is a forum in which we all use the English language. Littering your post with runs of full stops makes you appear, well, illiterate, and frankly makes me disinclined to go to the effort to make out what you are trying to say.


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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:51 am

rowley wrote:Az writing a "do brits love losers" thread, lightouts using an excessive amount of full stops. Someone tell Truss his act is being ripped off.

laughing laughing laughing

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:55 am

Union Cane wrote:
I can't point anything out because I can't understand what you are saying. This is not, as you mentioned, an "English Language Forum", but it is a forum in which we all use the English language. Littering your post with runs of full stops makes you appear, well, illiterate, and frankly makes me disinclined to go to the effort to make out what you are trying to say.

You.........'re such...................a..........sn.............ob..................................Unio.................n

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by Union Cane Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:57 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:You.........'re such...................a..........n.............ob..................................Unio.................n

Fixed that for you.

Can we get back to the topic please.
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Post by Union Cane Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:05 am

WBC is Morales
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:25 am

alma wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:I've just heard that the immediate rematch can be put off for a unification bout.

Who's WBC champion? Bradley is WBO 140 champ and he's fighting Pacquiao if what we hear is true.

Morales is the WBC and Bradley still holds a version the a WBC belt as well along with the WBO strap.
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