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Post by bogbrush Fri 20 Jan 2012, 9:34 am

So Federer will pass the 1000 match milestone on Sunday, hopefully against Dolgopolov. It would be fitting to celebrate this great achievement against a talented shot maker rather than Tomic's pushing style, hopefully they would bring the best from each other.

Congratulations to Federer, thanks from a long time fan of the game who lost interest through most of the 90's and who was brought back to the game only by the Swiss genius. I hope he can stick another few hundred onto his tally! Bubbly
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 20 Jan 2012, 9:37 am

I'd love to watch Federer vs Dolgo, should be very entertaining.

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Post by Jahu Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:24 pm

Well its with Tomic now, but what a nice number. thumbsup
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Post by break_in_the_fifth Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:30 pm

Dolgopolov would have been the more fitting opponent. Oh well after Fed has 20 slams he can pass the torch on then.

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Post by Simple_Analyst Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:39 pm

Yah let us build a shrine and worship Federer Fed's #1000 3602195817

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:40 pm

After he wins 20 slams I guess that would be worth considering.

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Post by Tenez Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:43 pm

Simple_Analyst wrote:Yah let us build a shrine and worship Federer Fed's #1000 3602195817

Finally coming to sense!Fed's #1000 732107 I knew you woudl not be impartial to his talent for ever.

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Post by Simple_Analyst Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:46 pm

Talent? Who?

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Post by bogbrush Fri 20 Jan 2012, 12:51 pm

Only someone so passionate for Federer as Simplistic could obsess so fully.

He knows he's the man.
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Post by Jahu Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:37 pm

We know SA is the man too.
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Post by luciusmann Fri 20 Jan 2012, 1:50 pm

We can let SA lay the first block of the shrine! Yahoo


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Post by Guest Fri 20 Jan 2012, 4:48 pm

It would be interesting to know which other players (active and retired) have played the most matches. I'm assuming Connors and Lendl will be at the top.

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Post by laverfan Fri 20 Jan 2012, 5:10 pm

emancipator wrote:It would be interesting to know which other players (active and retired) have played the most matches. I'm assuming Connors and Lendl will be at the top.

Name - W/L

Connors - 1242/277
Lendl - 1071/239
Vilas - 923/284
McEnroe - 875/198
Agassi - 870/274
Federer - 810/186 (till Doha 2012) - 999 + AO 2012 (3) = 999 matches total.
Edberg - 806/270



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Post by banbrotam Fri 20 Jan 2012, 6:04 pm

Come on Roger!!

Yes. Shock Horror, I'm hoping that the GOAT grinds the cocky Aussie into the ground

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Post by laverfan Fri 20 Jan 2012, 6:17 pm

banbrotam wrote:Come on Roger!!

Yes. Shock Horror, I'm hoping that the GOAT grinds the cocky Aussie into the ground

Tomic did play well against Dolgo and kept his nerve to close it out. He has played 14 sets in 3 matches. It is a tough ask. He has shown character so far, though.

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Post by banbrotam Fri 20 Jan 2012, 6:48 pm

laverfan wrote:
banbrotam wrote:Come on Roger!!

Yes. Shock Horror, I'm hoping that the GOAT grinds the cocky Aussie into the ground

Tomic did play well against Dolgo and kept his nerve to close it out. He has played 14 sets in 3 matches. It is a tough ask. He has shown character so far, though.


I think Dolgo's back, played a big part.

For me Tomic's a little bit too cocky. A declaration that the Sydney tournament was 'wide open', when you had a clear favourite playing it was exhibit No.1. Now we've got the injury comments (for the Verdasco match) and the appeal farce

Indeed they get worse, the latter incident should have resulted in him volunteering to replay a point, such was the gravity of his error

Goodness knows what would happen if Serena does this at the French Open against one of the French girls censored

Seriously, it may just be Tomic's youth -but I can now fully understand why he's had 'issues' with the Aussie authorities.

I've a feeling Roger will want to remind him who's boss

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Post by laverfan Fri 20 Jan 2012, 6:55 pm

Agreed. Perhaps a bit of youthful exuberance. The Hewitt 'not good enough' comment was also a bad choice.

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Post by newballs Fri 20 Jan 2012, 6:58 pm

Tomic for sure is more than just a little bit "cocky" even by Australian sportsmen's attitude in general.

Mind you, it has to be said, he has quite a lot to be arrogant about and might give Federer a decent run for his money.

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Post by laverfan Fri 20 Jan 2012, 7:20 pm

His interview here does show some glimpses of the said 'cockiness'.

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/articles/2012-01-21/201201201327070034877.html

The references to the Dolgopolov incident and the associated comments are fairly negative.

Was it last year that he was up 4-1 against Nadal? chin

As this link indicates, his success seems to be heady wine for a young player.

Tournament director Craig Tiley confirmed Tomic was chosen as the headline act over two of the game's greatest players after a five-hour scheduling meeting yesterday.
Asked if this meant Tomic had top billing, Tiley told The Australian: "He does. It is hard, in Australia, to put anything ahead of Tomic and Dolgopolov."


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/bernards-tv-talent-rubs-out-nadal-federer/story-fnbe6xeb-1226248779917

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Post by newballs Fri 20 Jan 2012, 7:30 pm

Laverfan you can understand why Tomic gets top billing. After all, all we hear about at Wimbledon is Andy and his chances.

There's something about Tomic. No, not in a nasty way but more in his cocky youthful confidence/arrogance. Maybe, just maybe he has in him already what it takes to cause a big shock here. And wouldn't that just spoil Federer's party celebrations if he did?

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Post by Guest Fri 20 Jan 2012, 8:03 pm

I think the only way Federer loses to Tomic is if he (federer) is rusty or injured. I think having the w/o and then playing Karlovic hasn't allowed Roger time to sharpen his game yet. So with that in mind he may be a little vulnerable. If, however, he is sharp, then Tomic has nothing to hurt him with. Slicing and dicing will never bother Roger, especially not on a HC. He'll just run around and spank some FH winners. Hopefully Roger wins but Tomic makes him hit a lot of balls in the process; I think that would be the ideal scenario.

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Post by banbrotam Fri 20 Jan 2012, 9:52 pm

newballs wrote:Laverfan you can understand why Tomic gets top billing. After all, all we hear about at Wimbledon is Andy and his chances.

There's something about Tomic. No, not in a nasty way but more in his cocky youthful confidence/arrogance. Maybe, just maybe he has in him already what it takes to cause a big shock here. And wouldn't that just spoil Federer's party celebrations if he did?


You're correct there is something about Tomic, it's caused by being talked up as the 'next great hope, caused by a dearth of talent in under 21's. If Tomic has Harrison's grace, then he'd be in the Top 10 by June - still might be of course

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Post by banbrotam Fri 20 Jan 2012, 9:55 pm

emancipator wrote:I think the only way Federer loses to Tomic is if he (federer) is rusty or injured. I think having the w/o and then playing Karlovic hasn't allowed Roger time to sharpen his game yet. So with that in mind he may be a little vulnerable. If, however, he is sharp, then Tomic has nothing to hurt him with. Slicing and dicing will never bother Roger, especially not on a HC. He'll just run around and spank some FH winners. Hopefully Roger wins but Tomic makes him hit a lot of balls in the process; I think that would be the ideal scenario.

Roger has being known to get a tad frustrated when he meets players with variety, his record against such players relative to his record against the speed merchants is actually quite poor. Slicing and dicing bothers as much as anything else

Not usually in a Slam though and I can see Fed winning easily

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 20 Jan 2012, 11:21 pm

Hopefully Federer will do a "Tomic" for his good pal Dolgo (raise his hand as if to challenge then deny he did it!) I really liked Tomic before this match, now I hope the f***er gets his just deserts at GOATs hands, beat him SENSELESS Rog thumbsup
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Post by Guest Fri 20 Jan 2012, 11:37 pm

banbrotam wrote:
emancipator wrote:I think the only way Federer loses to Tomic is if he (federer) is rusty or injured. I think having the w/o and then playing Karlovic hasn't allowed Roger time to sharpen his game yet. So with that in mind he may be a little vulnerable. If, however, he is sharp, then Tomic has nothing to hurt him with. Slicing and dicing will never bother Roger, especially not on a HC. He'll just run around and spank some FH winners. Hopefully Roger wins but Tomic makes him hit a lot of balls in the process; I think that would be the ideal scenario.

Roger has being known to get a tad frustrated when he meets players with variety, his record against such players relative to his record against the speed merchants is actually quite poor. Slicing and dicing bothers as much as anything else

Not usually in a Slam though and I can see Fed winning easily

the only slicer-dicer that's bothered fed is Murray and that's because he has the wheels and engine to retrieve shots that would be winners against other players. Tomic has neither (yet) to the degree that it should bother federer. Federer like nadal deals with slice very well because he has the movement to run around slices to his bh and then dictate with the FH.

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Post by banbrotam Fri 20 Jan 2012, 11:40 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Hopefully Federer will do a "Tomic" for his good pal Dolgo (raise his hand as if to challenge then deny he did it!) I really liked Tomic before this match, now I hope the f***er gets his just deserts at GOATs hands, beat him SENSELESS Rog thumbsup


Yep! It was certainly one of the most odious occurrences of recent times. Not certain why Tomic wants to set himself up as the 'spoilt brat with attitude'. He's going to have enough of a job catching the likes of Nole, Murray, Nadal and Del Potro in the next few years, the last thing he needs is to motivate them with his behaviour

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Post by banbrotam Fri 20 Jan 2012, 11:45 pm

emancipator wrote:
banbrotam wrote:
emancipator wrote:I think the only way Federer loses to Tomic is if he (federer) is rusty or injured. I think having the w/o and then playing Karlovic hasn't allowed Roger time to sharpen his game yet. So with that in mind he may be a little vulnerable. If, however, he is sharp, then Tomic has nothing to hurt him with. Slicing and dicing will never bother Roger, especially not on a HC. He'll just run around and spank some FH winners. Hopefully Roger wins but Tomic makes him hit a lot of balls in the process; I think that would be the ideal scenario.

Roger has being known to get a tad frustrated when he meets players with variety, his record against such players relative to his record against the speed merchants is actually quite poor. Slicing and dicing bothers as much as anything else

Not usually in a Slam though and I can see Fed winning easily

the only slicer-dicer that's bothered fed is Murray and that's because he has the wheels and engine to retrieve shots that would be winners against other players. Tomic has neither (yet) to the degree that it should bother federer. Federer like nadal deals with slice very well because he has the movement to run around slices to his bh and then dictate with the FH.


I largely agree. But out of all the type of players that bother him, i.e. win 2 in 10 rather than 1 in 10!!, players with variety are the ones. It's as though he sometimes gets bored. However, I don't see an issue with this one. At the moment Tomic hasn't the game to compete with the GOAT

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Post by laverfan Fri 20 Jan 2012, 11:59 pm

Yesterday, against Dr Ivo, the topspin BH, when used was awesome, IMVHO.

Tomic can be jerked around the court a lot with the angles that the FH and BH from Federer create. As BanBro says, Tomic currently lacks the wheels that Murray has to hurt Federer.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sat 21 Jan 2012, 1:40 am

As BanBro says, Tomic currently lacks the wheels that Murray has to hurt Federer.
Tomic isn't the melodramatic headcase that Murray is...
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Post by laverfan Sat 21 Jan 2012, 4:53 am

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
As BanBro says, Tomic currently lacks the wheels that Murray has to hurt Federer.
Tomic isn't the melodramatic headcase that Murray is...

It is an interesting first match tomorrow evening on RL.

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Post by banbrotam Sat 21 Jan 2012, 11:29 am

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
As BanBro says, Tomic currently lacks the wheels that Murray has to hurt Federer.
Tomic isn't the melodramatic headcase that Murray is...


When that occurs, Murray is damaging himself - not disrespecting other players

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sat 21 Jan 2012, 11:37 am

He disrespected Ofcom with his constant swear words in afternoon matches.

Of course I hate Tomic and his underhand cheat to affect Dolgopolov's focus, but he doesn't go out of his way to annoy spectators with petulant behaviour.
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Post by Guest Sat 21 Jan 2012, 11:50 am

Yeah Tomic had a Henin moment

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sat 21 Jan 2012, 12:09 pm

emancipator wrote:Yeah Tomic had a Henin moment
Tomic went with the flow and wouldn't disappoint the home crowd, I think if he had put his arm up to challenge in a different tournament he wouldn't have lied about it. Sad but understandable when 99% of crowd are pulling for you.
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Post by bogbrush Sun 22 Jan 2012, 10:01 am

Arghhh! I got it wrong!

The scratch in the 2nd round means the 1000th against Del Potro. A suitable match for the ocassion.
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Post by laverfan Sun 22 Jan 2012, 10:28 am

bogbrush wrote:Arghhh! I got it wrong!

The scratch in the 2nd round means the 1000th against Del Potro. A suitable match for the ocassion.

I counted the Beck walkover otherwise there are discrepancies between ATP and some other counts.

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Post by bogbrush Sun 22 Jan 2012, 10:38 am

It can't be a match if he never walks on court.
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Post by newballs Sun 22 Jan 2012, 1:07 pm

bogbrush wrote:So Federer will pass the 1000 match milestone on Sunday, hopefully against Dolgopolov. It would be fitting to celebrate this great achievement against a talented shot maker rather than Tomic's pushing style, hopefully they would bring the best from each other.

Congratulations to Federer, thanks from a long time fan of the game who lost interest through most of the 90's and who was brought back to the game only by the Swiss genius. I hope he can stick another few hundred onto his tally! Bubbly

bogbrush isn't his 1000th actually against Del Potro in the next round? The commentator on Eurosport at the end certainly thought so.

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Post by bogbrush Sun 22 Jan 2012, 1:21 pm

Look a few posts up. I missed the 2nd round walkover.
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Post by newballs Sun 22 Jan 2012, 4:25 pm

bogbrush OK

Yep guilty of firing one off without checking first.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 22 Jan 2012, 5:44 pm

Straight forward win over Kohli by Delpo, I can see a few tiebreakers in this.
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Post by Tenez Sun 22 Jan 2012, 7:14 pm

I don;t think Tomic is that slow. He looks slower than he is. He flattened some good FH on points where I thought he would not get to teh ball. He stands very far back and that is what makes him look slow cause he has to cover more grounds.

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Post by gallery play Sun 22 Jan 2012, 7:43 pm

Tomic reminds me of the young Djoko:
Moving a bit rigid
instinctively not pro-active but reactive
cocky attitude
very consistent in rallies
Strength = absence of weaknesses

Give the guy a gluten fee diet and he'll become unstoppable :-)

In all seriousness, Tomic is definitely a descendant of the generation Nadal-Djoko-Murray.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Jan 2012, 8:15 pm

fantastic stuff from federer..one of the best of all time clap

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Post by Tenez Sun 22 Jan 2012, 8:35 pm

gallery play wrote:Give the guy a gluten fee diet and he'll become unstoppable :-)

He has his diet over Xmas...according to the Aussie papers.

gallery play wrote:In all seriousness, Tomic is definitely a descendant of the generation Nadal-Djoko-Murray.

That's very clear! Absence of weakness means "let's not have talent, this hasardous trait, get in the way of our slams."

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Post by gallery play Sun 22 Jan 2012, 8:55 pm

Tenez wrote:
gallery play wrote:Give the guy a gluten fee diet and he'll become unstoppable :-)

He has his diet over Xmas...according to the Aussie papers.


Really? Soon he'll be beating top 10 players Wink

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Post by laverfan Tue 24 Jan 2012, 7:39 am

Done and dusted beating Del Potro in straight sets.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Tue 24 Jan 2012, 7:41 am

Yep here's to the next 1000.

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Post by laverfan Tue 24 Jan 2012, 7:55 am

break_in_the_fifth wrote:Yep here's to the next 1000.

That would be astonishing, but possible. Wink

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Post by bogbrush Tue 24 Jan 2012, 10:25 am

Lovely celebration of #1000.

He'll leave a hole the size of the Yucatan crater when he goes.
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