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Post by mckay1402 Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:53 am

Superb grinding out of a result in Castres. Stephen Jones with the penalty to win at the end. anybody know where that leaves us with regards the Amlin?
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:55 am

Yes happy with that,
On Sky they are saying we are through to the last 8 in the Amlin

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Post by Cymroglan Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:57 am

Good win Priestland's injury is a worry.

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Post by mckay1402 Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:58 am

well if sky are saying it it must be true. was it Shingler that scored the second try? had to give my girl a bath...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:01 am

Yep Shingler with the second and i really hope Priestland is okay.

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Post by Thomond Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:02 am

Good stuff lads, Scarlets fans were a credit to rugby when they were over. Best of luck to you in the Amlin.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:03 am

Listened to game on radio wales and a great result should see them into the Amlin.

Few worrying injuries for Wales today Priestland and Lydiate, according to the radio Shingler had very good game so who knows depending on Lydiates injury.
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Post by mckay1402 Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:04 am

if we can get a bit more impact in our forwards I reckon we'd give the HEC a scare. maybe not winners we'd be up there.
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Post by Thomond Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:08 am

I'd say the Scarlets need a bit more grunt and they could be a very decent side. It's all backs, backs, backs. Your forwards win you the game.

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Post by mckay1402 Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:08 am

yeah shingler is certainly putting his hand up and would fit with the welsh game i think. showed his pace tonight and seems to be in the right place. maybe if Priestland is injured then it might be time for the Tovests to finally get their man in the Wales squad...
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:09 am

Cheers Thomond, as they say Rome wasn't built in a day but its all progress.

Agreed Mckay1402.

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Post by mckay1402 Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:10 am

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totally agree. we need a destructive prop and maybe an Ian Gough (not him though) type of second row. We will probably need a replacement for Ben Morgan too next season but the young lad (whos name escapes me) who played number 8 recently did look promising.
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:11 am

Our forwards were IMMENSE today!

A superb display, Pete Edwards locked the scrum in and Gilbert was magnificent at 8. And Shingler! Tackled his heart out and the pace on him for his intercept try!

Amazing.

Best performance since the away game at Saints, and defensively 2nd half.....amazing, just, I can't even put it into words. So proud. A truly superb win for us.

Bring on the Amlin! Very Happy

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:13 am

mckay - that would be Kieran Murphy at 8. Gilbert was fantastic today though, that adds to his great 2nd half away against Saints too Smile

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Post by Cymroglan Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:23 am

Is Matt Gilbert deaf ?

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:23 am

Amlin QF's;

1 (ACC 1) v 8 (ACC 5)
2 (ACC 2) v 7 (Heineken Cup 3)
3 (ACC 3) v 6 (Heineken Cup 2)
4 (ACC 4) v 5 (Heineken Cup 1)

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:31 am

Cymro - yes he is.

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Post by glamorganalun Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:34 am

Another good away performance, I wish they could do the same at home. Well done Scarlets some good results for the Pro12 league, probably 5 through to last * of HC, 2 from France and 1 from the Aviva. Yahoo

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:36 am

so do I alun! Don't know why in the HEC we play better away, tis most strange!

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Post by Cymroglan Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:43 am

As in profoundly deaf or can he hear the whistle ?The reason I ask is that I noticed Richie Pugh giving him signals with hand gestures as in numbers.

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Post by KickAndChase Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:46 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:Amlin QF's;

1 (ACC 1) v 8 (ACC 5)
2 (ACC 2) v 7 (Heineken Cup 3)
3 (ACC 3) v 6 (Heineken Cup 2)
4 (ACC 4) v 5 (Heineken Cup 1)

That's just bizarre. I get that the reward for being top seed in the Amlin is not having to play a HC competitor, but saying that ACC4 is 4 seeds better than ACC5 is just ... to put it in Brian Moore speak, dull.

Shouldn't logical consistency make it:

1 (HC 1) v 8 (ACC 5)
2 (HC 2) v 7 (ACC 4)
3 (HC 3) v 6 (ACC 3)
4 (ACC 1) v 5 (ACC 2)

I still think that's incentive to come top 2 in the Amlin?

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:58 am

Cymroglan wrote:As in profoundly deaf or can he hear the whistle ?The reason I ask is that I noticed Richie Pugh giving him signals with hand gestures as in numbers.

I think profoundly, I know he's played for the England deaf team before. Not sure though, will see if I can find out....

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:01 am

had a quick look and can't find anything. Don't suppose it matters a jot, he's still a great rugby player!


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Post by Cymroglan Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:12 am

RD Yes it would be great if you could find out for me. It's something that's close to my heart due to one of my sons being deaf.
I do a lot of charity work for the deaf and maybe somebody like Matt could provide a link with the Scarlets.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:14 am

KickAndChase wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:Amlin QF's;

1 (ACC 1) v 8 (ACC 5)
2 (ACC 2) v 7 (Heineken Cup 3)
3 (ACC 3) v 6 (Heineken Cup 2)
4 (ACC 4) v 5 (Heineken Cup 1)

That's just bizarre. I get that the reward for being top seed in the Amlin is not having to play a HC competitor, but saying that ACC4 is 4 seeds better than ACC5 is just ... to put it in Brian Moore speak, dull.

Shouldn't logical consistency make it:

1 (HC 1) v 8 (ACC 5)
2 (HC 2) v 7 (ACC 4)
3 (HC 3) v 6 (ACC 3)
4 (ACC 1) v 5 (ACC 2)

I still think that's incentive to come top 2 in the Amlin?

I think the current formula works since it rewards those teams who do better in the Amlin pool stages with potentially weaker opposition in the knockout phase. For the HEC failures it's a chance to continue in a European competition. It could be argued either way, but putting the names in a hat would be ok by me.

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Post by mckay1402 Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:37 am

who are we likely to face then? Any ideas?
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:39 am

If Stade win tonight (which I think they are), we will be facing Brive, I think.

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:41 am

Brive we could win that one.

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:43 am

I think so too, view, would be a great draw for us.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:16 am

Another battle of Brive would be good.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:31 pm

What an immense win froma team that had 20 players unavailable. Truly epic.

On to Brive then. Can do that one too!

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Post by Comfort Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:05 pm

From what I've heard Shingler had a stormer again, hes had a few games like that this season. (havent seen any of the game yet)

Can any scarlets fans tell me if he is being considered a 6 that can cover 4/5 or a lock than can cover the back-row if needed? Certainly would have been worthy of a call-up to the welsh training squad.


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Post by Guest Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:37 am

They are trying to convert him to 2nd row a bit this season, but I much, much prefer him at 6. Tis clearly his best position.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:27 pm

6 is his best position as he's a bit lightweight for a lock - and although he does quite well there, he pace is so electric he's great in the loose. I'd say his one problem is discipline

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Post by Chunky Norwich Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:46 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:They are trying to convert him to 2nd row a bit this season, but I much, much prefer him at 6. Tis clearly his best position.

Are they? I haven't seen any evidence of this.

They tried to beef him up to 2nd row weight 3 years ago but he couldn't put it on so he has played 6 since and that's clearly now his natural position.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:47 pm

He's played lock quite a few times last season and this season - though since Timani has come in he's generally been preferred as lock and Shingler at 6.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:55 pm

Smirnoffpriest wrote:He's played lock quite a few times last season and this season - though since Timani has come in he's generally been preferred as lock and Shingler at 6.

He's played a few times but I don't think they are trying to convert him anymore.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:09 am

IMO they still see him as a 4,5,6 player but they are now in a position they weren't in last season where they have more options at lock (because of Timani and Nige burying the hatchet with Welch) and less at 6 (because of Turnbull and McCuskers injuries)

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Post by Chunky Norwich Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:16 am

Smirnoffpriest wrote:IMO they still see him as a 4,5,6 player but they are now in a position they weren't in last season where they have more options at lock (because of Timani and Nige burying the hatchet with Welch) and less at 6 (because of Turnbull and McCuskers injuries)

That's about right but Shingler was only emergency cover in my opinion. Just as Mcusker is emergency cover for lock / 8.

I'm worried about Dom Day leaving though. Very worried.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:13 am

I am as well - we can ill afford to loose locks, particularly promising ones. I'd say Shingler is viewed as much more than emergency cover as he has been chosen above other locks on a number of times (these locks have then had to contend themselves with places on the bench) and if he was truely emergency cover then they would have put Turnbull at lock and Shingler at 6.

Also, although I don't like him there, I believe Nige wanted to develop McCucker as a 8 so he could play around the backrow. IMO it didn't work and he is now as you say emergency cover (which hopefully won't be needed with Gilbert, Murphy and Morgan there)

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Post by Chunky Norwich Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:28 pm

Nice to see Aaron Shingler in the Wales squad.

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