Re: Pass the Parcel Quiz.

by Imperial Ghosty Thu 17 Mar 2011, 12:34 pm

First topic message reminder :

We're talking 1860/70's here

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:33 pm

I can safely say I would never have got that one Windy.

Which fighter started his career as a flyweight, and retired as a heavyweight?

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:37 pm

Union Cane wrote:I can safely say I would never have got that one Windy.

Which fighter started his career as a flyweight, and retired as a heavyweight?

They're easy when you know the answer, mate ( !! )

Is the answer to yours Georges Carpentier ?

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:39 pm

That's the feller...

Your go!

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:45 pm

Okay, easier one.

Which heavyweight champion, not regarded today as having been lightheavy champ, fought and won a bout billed in some quarters and by some newspapers as being for the lightheavyweight championship, and duly claimed the title ?

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:46 pm

Stanley Ketchel?

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:47 pm

Union Cane wrote:Stanley Ketchel?

No, mate. Sorry.

Don't forget that this fighter is a heavyweight champion.

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:48 pm

Ha !

Just caught your edit. Very droll.

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:49 pm

Wouldn't be Tommy Burns, would it? I know that after he drew with O'Brien the 175 lb divisions wasn't recognized officially between 1906 and 1912, could he have made a cheeky claim to it then?

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:53 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Wouldn't be Tommy Burns, would it? I know that after he drew with O'Brien the 175 lb divisions wasn't recognized officially between 1906 and 1912, could he have made a cheeky claim to it then?

Good shout, Chris, but not the one I'm after, I'm afraid.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 1:59 pm

It wasn't Primo Carnera was it?

by Rowley Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:00 pm

Was it Hart, now he was around during the infancy of the lh division, if I'm wrong should hurry up reading his biography save me making an idiot of myself on here

by Imperial Ghosty Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:01 pm

Gene Tunney

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:06 pm

Union, Carnera only claimed the flyweight title, I believe.

jeff, Ghosty, sorry fellas but no, not the ones I'm after.

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:08 pm

I know the 175 lb division was pretty fragmented in the late twenties and early thirties, so I'll have a guess at Schmeling.

by John Bloody Wayne Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:12 pm

Charles?

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:12 pm

88Chris05 wrote:I know the 175 lb division was pretty fragmented in the late twenties and early thirties, so I'll have a guess at Schmeling.

Sorry mate, but no.

Small clue. The man GENERALLY accepted as the true champion at the time is often compared, stylistically, to the heavyweight who claimed the title.

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:13 pm

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Charles?

Sorry John, but no.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:15 pm

Jacks Sharkey or Dempsey?

Tommy Morrison?

by John Bloody Wayne Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:16 pm

Patterson? (last stab in the dark)

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:21 pm

Union Cane wrote:Jacks Sharkey or Dempsey?

Tommy Morrison?

Union gets it. Very well done.

Jack Dempsey's 1916 fight against Kellar at the Alhambra was billed as being for the lightheavyweight championship. The New York Times covered the fight and also supported the claim for the winner to be crowned champ. Jack Dillon was regarded in most quarters as ' the man, ' having claimed the title in 1914.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:23 pm

That's known as the 'scattergun' approach. Still, three more points on the board for me...

Joe Louis holds the record for the most consecutive heavyweight title defences with 25, but who is the holder of this record for the cruiserweight division?

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:25 pm

If we're talking organizational titles here, then it wouldn't happen to be our very own Johnny Nelson would it?

by coxy0001 Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:27 pm

I was only young, and the memory is awful - but i've got Ramba or Rambo or something in my head. Possibly late 80s reign?

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:29 pm

WBO doesn't count, sorry Chris!

John J. Rambo? Nope, it wasn't him...

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:32 pm

In that case, I'll plump for either Wamba or Ralf Roccighiani (not sure of the spelling, mind you!)

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:34 pm

Yep, WBC champion Anaclet Wamba with 7 defences between 1991 and 1994.

(Sorry coxy!)

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:35 pm

Ah well, I'll let coxy have that if he wants to take the lead, he more or less had it.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:36 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Ah well, I'll let coxy have that if he wants to take the lead, he more or less had it.

Wrong name and wrong decade, but yeah, it was near enough... Rolling Eyes

by coxy0001 Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:40 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Ah well, I'll let coxy have that if he wants to take the lead, he more or less had it.

Yes, all mine. I would blame a typo but i did type "R" twice...!

Ok.... (and i'm struggling)

What was Azumah Nelson's original name?

Easy but my head's gone blank!

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:40 pm

Nelson Azumah?

by coxy0001 Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:42 pm

oh dear

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:43 pm

Azumah Nelson, perhaps?

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:50 pm

How was Arnold Raymond Cream better known?

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:52 pm

Jersey Joe Walcott, I believe.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:54 pm

Correcto...

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:55 pm

Which British boxing great had a wife who often used to double up as a sparring partner for him in training?

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 2:59 pm

Derek Chisora?

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:01 pm

Ha ha, nice effort Union but not the one I'm after.

by The Galveston Giant Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:03 pm

John conteh

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:07 pm

Conteh isn't the one I'm after either, Galveston. I'll throw in a clue; as well as a wife and sometimes sparring partner, the fighter's wife would also go on to become his manager.

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:08 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Conteh isn't the one I'm after either, Galveston. I'll throw in a clue; as well as a wife and sometimes sparring partner, the fighter's wife would also go on to become his manager.

I'm guessing it would need to be a small fighter to spar with his wife, so I'll take a flier at Jimmy Wilde.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:09 pm

Ivan Drago?

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:10 pm

Spot on, Windy. The 'Mighty Atom' used his manager wife for sparring too. Interestingly, she was the daughter of the old bare knuckler Dai Davies, who was the first thing that Wilde ever had resembling a coach of sorts.

And on we go.

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:15 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Interestingly, she was the daughter of the old bare knuckler Dai Davies, who was the first thing that Wilde ever had resembling a coach of sorts.

We live and learn, mate.

On the death of an all time great fighter, news was wired to his manager. The manager immediately wired back :

" Start to count ten over him. He'll get up. "

Who was the fighter who had died ?

by Imperial Ghosty Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:16 pm

Stanley Ketchel

by **88Chris05** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:17 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:On the death of an all time great fighter, news was wired to his manager. The manager immediately wired back :

" Start to count ten over him. He'll get up. "

Who was the fighter who had died ?

Not a clue, but that's a quality tale! I'll take a guess and say Billy Miske? Must have died relatively young if his manager outlived him, you'd assume.

by The Galveston Giant Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:18 pm

Since it's you windy my first guess will be Harry Greb, and will choose my others wisely in case they are still alive.

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:20 pm

Chris, Galveston,

Props to you both for excellent shouts, but our Ghosty has trumped you.

It was, indeed, Stanley Ketchel.

Very well done.

by **Union Cane** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:20 pm

Mr Windmill sir, what's "wired"?

by **HumanWindmill** Wed 23 Mar 2011, 3:21 pm

Union Cane wrote:Mr Windmill sir, what's "wired"?

Now that's not very nice, Union. Haven't you young'uns got any respect these days ?

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