Semi-Final Thread - Djokovic V Murray

[CaledonianCraig]

First topic message reminder :

All set for the off. I hope it is a great match and best of luck Andy.

Discuss....

[Jahu]

woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[prostaff85]

Even if Murray breaks, will he be able to close out the set?

We will know very soon!

[Guest]

Oh minions...

[break_in_the_fifth]

Come on Murray you're the true GOAT.

[luciusmann]

Murray breaks!

He might do what Nadal has never done last year: take 2 sets off Djokovic!!!

[JuliusHMarx]

Great rally - Djoko had a chance to kill it off mid-rally but just shoved it back down the middle where Andy could reach it. C'mon!

[dummy_half]

Wow - fantastic defence from Murray, then suddenly turned round with a superb backhand, and Djoko forced into the error. Break to Andy, now to serve for a set that 10 minutes ago nearly slipped away.

[Tenez]

Again, as said before, if fans have a problem with the time taken by players, then then they should write to the ATP and ask for the way the 25s rules is applied to be changed. Currently the 25s starts after the umpire calls the score, rather than when the ball goes out of play, as many on here mistakenly think it is. The reason for the disparity is that crowd noise is not taken into account by the standard rules and so the players are deemed to be allowed 25s of relative 'quiet' to prepare for the next point. To accommodate this the Umpire only calls score after the crowd noise starts to dwindle - and it is at this moment that the last point is deemed to have ended.
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You cannot be serious!

[Simple_Analyst]

Might be game over for Djokovic.

[LuvSports!]

15-40

[bogbrush]

Again, as said before, if fans have a problem with the time taken by players, then then they should write to the ATP and ask for the way the 25s rules is applied to be changed. Currently the 25s starts after the umpire calls the score, rather than when the ball goes out of play, as many on here mistakenly think it is. The reason for the disparity is that crowd noise is not taken into account by the standard rules and so the players are deemed to be allowed 25s of relative 'quiet' to prepare for the next point. To accommodate this the Umpire only calls score after the crowd noise starts to dwindle - and it is at this moment that the last point is deemed to have ended.
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You cannot be serious!

Making the rules up as he goes along.

Earlier the idea was that it was on fans to write in to have the rules enforced.

Beyond parody.

[Guest]

oh minions the moment draws close



emancipator

[reckoner]

tie break? yawn

[Guest]

Fault second serve 15-0 Murray
First serve 15-15
Fault Double Fault 15-30 flash photography warning
First serve 15-40
Fault challenge upheld Second serve Djokovic challenge 30-40
First serve Break to 30.

Tie Break

[Tenez]

It's a poor match!

I am tempted to bring the weak strong era debate again. ;~)

[bogbrush]

It's a poor match!

I am tempted to bring the weak strong era debate again. ;~)

Well it's depthless, that's beyond question.

[Guest]

It's a poor match!

I am tempted to bring the weak strong era debate again. ;~)

The strong man era ?

[Simple_Analyst]

Djokovic's mental strength is amazing, he doesn't know when beaten he keeps fighting.

[reckoner]

it's the Soviet athlete era!

[Guest]

I have envisioned a time when the two players neutralise each other with endless continuous rallies. Only then might they suggest changing the rules or court conditions.

However the Mahut-Isner endless match didn't change anything.

[reckoner]

ok as it is the tie break - whose gf is hotter?

[reckoner]

dreadful point

[Guest]

Clearly Murray needs to improve his serving. That will take longer for Lendl to work on.

[Tom_____]

Again, as said before, if fans have a problem with the time taken by players, then then they should write to the ATP and ask for the way the 25s rules is applied to be changed. Currently the 25s starts after the umpire calls the score, rather than when the ball goes out of play, as many on here mistakenly think it is. The reason for the disparity is that crowd noise is not taken into account by the standard rules and so the players are deemed to be allowed 25s of relative 'quiet' to prepare for the next point. To accommodate this the Umpire only calls score after the crowd noise starts to dwindle - and it is at this moment that the last point is deemed to have ended.
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You cannot be serious!

Making the rules up as he goes along.

Earlier the idea was that it was on fans to write in to have the rules enforced.

Beyond parody.

Write to the ATP and ask them how the rule is applied - just try it and post the reply.

[Guest]

ok as it is the tie break - whose gf is hotter?

Are you suggesting this should be the final tie-breaker if they can't finish the match?

[barrystar]

Right now - the most important service point yet in Murray's career coming up

[gallery play]

There's only one winner today: Nadal

[bogbrush]

Again, as said before, if fans have a problem with the time taken by players, then then they should write to the ATP and ask for the way the 25s rules is applied to be changed. Currently the 25s starts after the umpire calls the score, rather than when the ball goes out of play, as many on here mistakenly think it is. The reason for the disparity is that crowd noise is not taken into account by the standard rules and so the players are deemed to be allowed 25s of relative 'quiet' to prepare for the next point. To accommodate this the Umpire only calls score after the crowd noise starts to dwindle - and it is at this moment that the last point is deemed to have ended.
.

You cannot be serious!

Making the rules up as he goes along.

Earlier the idea was that it was on fans to write in to have the rules enforced.

Beyond parody.

Write to the ATP and ask them how the rule is applied - just try it and post the reply.

So the crowd is louder for longer when Djokovic and Nadal are serving?

[Guest]

Tom______ I believe it is 20 seconds not 25 seconds for grand slams.

[Tom_____]

Have to think if Murray loses this set then he out of there 6-2 in the 4th

[Guest]

From having to save three set points, Murray now has three set points of his own. Who would have thunk it

[break_in_the_fifth]

Lendl for his 9th slam.

[reckoner]

ok as it is the tie break - whose gf is hotter?

Are you suggesting this should be the final tie-breaker if they can't finish the match?

Genius idea, I am now!!!

[LuvSports!]

he deserves that. just.

[Tom_____]

Tom______ I believe it is 20 seconds not 25 seconds for grand slams.

Well your wrong, it 25s as per ATP standard rules - it was changed many many years ago.

20s was and old ITF rule since abandoned.

[barrystar]

2-1 - now we are talking. Fantastic performance.

[Guest]

Have to think if Murray loses this set then he out of there 6-2 in the 4th

I wouldn't be so sure. But anyway Murray wins the set to go two sets to one up. Are you rooting for Djokovic?

[lydian]

wow....an 88 minute set...ridiculous!

[Tenez]

It's a poor match!

I am tempted to bring the weak strong era debate again. ;~)

Well it's depthless, that's beyond question.

I'd say there are more quality players in the depth than at the top. They are simply not as fit.

[reckoner]

he deserves that. just.

+1

[dummy_half]

reckoner
I think your tie breaker is as close as this match

[Simple_Analyst]

He made a big deal out of this set but won it at the end. Good tie break.

[Guest]

I think we can hand the trophy to Nadal if this goes to five

[break_in_the_fifth]

Any chance for Novak now with his "injury"?

[reckoner]

reckoner
I think your tie breaker is as close as this match

lol I dunno about the 80s hair though

[barrystar]

There's only one winner today: Nadal

Don't agree at all. If Murray wins this he won't have time to be tired for the final.

[Guest]

Djokovic has to be more aggressive. Murray looks stronger in the longer rallies

[barrystar]

Oooof - steady the nerves, that's why Djoko is a champion.

[JuliusHMarx]

Tom______ I believe it is 20 seconds not 25 seconds for grand slams.

Well your wrong, it 25s as per ATP standard rules - it was changed many many years ago.

20s was and old ITF rule since abandoned.

What? That's just plain wrong - it's in ITF event, not an ATP event. Check the ITF web-site for the rules - http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_54584_original.PDF

Rule 29 - Nothing about the umpire stating the score either.

[reckoner]

volley fail, I despair

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