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Post by yappysnap Tue 31 Jan 2012, 1:17 pm

Does anyone know if the same presenters, commentators and pundits will be working for the Beeb this year as last?

As a few of them, like Guscott and Inverdale I find absolutely shocking.

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Post by Geordie Tue 31 Jan 2012, 1:48 pm

Brian Moore rocks though!!!! Best pundit in sport!

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Post by andy powells minder Tue 31 Jan 2012, 1:52 pm

The Butler and Moore show, worth the licence fee on its own, priceless Very Happy

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Post by Geordie Tue 31 Jan 2012, 1:56 pm

andy powells minder wrote:The Butler and Moore show, worth the licence fee on its own, priceless Very Happy

Most definately! Very Happy

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Post by pbuk0 Tue 31 Jan 2012, 2:06 pm

I have to admit I just find Jonathan Edwards annoying and is the worst Pundit on TV.. Guscott is also useless..

Brian Moore is superb along with Eddie Butler...

The nest Pundit on TV is Dean Ryan who talks with so much sense and understanding of the game...

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue 31 Jan 2012, 2:18 pm

I really like Healy, hes one of the few whos actually allowed ( able?) to make any kind of real tactical insight into teh game. They sometimes have that Welsh chap doing the same, ill be honest...I cant understand much of what he says ( and Im Wales qualified)
I hope they have him back on the beeb for this anyway, I enjoy his ESPN stuff.

Dalliligio has got a lot better, hes no longer just an advert for leather jackets and chin products. On the ITV world cup coverage of France Wales he did make a valiant atempt to talk about something other than the Warburton red card at half time, so points for that.

Hopefuly they will have refreshed the stock of blonde fluff and come up with some badly worded questions for them.

Moore is great, I hope they dont do with him what they have with many presenters of others shows and encourage him to be a charecature of himslef though. Its not the same when its forced.

Hopefuly they will pick a Frenchie who has some vague ability to speak English.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 31 Jan 2012, 2:22 pm

inverdale is pretty chilled out- he is more your des ,gary lineker type presenter who doesnt inflict his opinion to much. Mind you that little welsh fella edwards does my nut in!!

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Post by bedfordwelsh Tue 31 Jan 2012, 3:53 pm

InverDULL will be heading up the Beeb I guess so god help us. Then we have whats her name Irvine do pitchside reports.

Depsite being the player who most probably scored more tries against Wales than anyone else I wish the Beeb would try and poach Greenwood as I do like him as a pundit.

Butler and Moore will be doing all the games that the Beeb deem big I guess.
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 31 Jan 2012, 3:55 pm

From pre the last 6Ns:

John Inverdale is the main host and is joined by fellow presenters Gabby Logan and Jason Mohammed. Commentators are Eddie Butler, Andrew Cotter and Alastair Eykyn, with Jonathan Davies, Phillip Matthews, Brian Moore and Andy Nicol as co-commentators. The pitch-side reporting team includes Jill Douglas, Sonja McLaughlan and Graham Thomas.

John, Gabby and Jason are also joined by studio analysts Colin Charvis, Lawrence Dallaglio, Jonathan Davies, Jeremy Guscott, Andy Nicol and Keith Wood.

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Post by RubyGuby Tue 31 Jan 2012, 4:13 pm

Who the hell is Jonathan Edwards?? Jiffy on the other hand gets on my nerves along with Guscott and Dayglo. For me it's Lynagh, Fitzpatrick, Phillip Matthews and Brian Moore - Quinnell is also ok. Inverdale is a complete twax and as for Sonia whatever, just get that clueless woman off the rugby channell!!

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Post by Chjw131 Tue 31 Jan 2012, 4:42 pm

This is why I love Brian Moore:

https://www.youtube.com/​watch?v=jTQWT-B0EBw&feature=rel​ated

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Post by pbuk0 Tue 31 Jan 2012, 5:00 pm

RubyGuby wrote:Who the hell is Jonathan Edwards?? Jiffy on the other hand gets on my nerves along with Guscott and Dayglo. For me it's Lynagh, Fitzpatrick, Phillip Matthews and Brian Moore - Quinnell is also ok. Inverdale is a complete twax and as for Sonia whatever, just get that clueless woman off the rugby channell!!

God knows why I said Jonathan Edwards as I meant Jonathan Davies probably the worst and most annoying person on TV... For me the best line up would be; Brian Moore, Will Greenwood, Fitzpatrick, Dean Ryan, Austin Healey, Eddie Butler and Ieuan Evans.

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Post by HammerofThunor Tue 31 Jan 2012, 5:35 pm

Usually the BBC have "No Commentary" on their red button. They do the best commentary I think. Half time is the perfect chance to make a cup of tea (have a slash)

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 31 Jan 2012, 5:38 pm

i knew there was something wrong with the name jonathon edwards- he is a christian triple jumper lol

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Post by yappysnap Tue 31 Jan 2012, 7:49 pm

Didn't they have a token Irish interviewer as well? Or was that ITV?

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Post by HammerofThunor Tue 31 Jan 2012, 8:01 pm

I remember during the World Cup ITV had Thom? Evans on. When Scotland got knocked out they said "Well that's goodbye to Thom then" [while he was there]. Basically admitting he was the token Scotsman

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 31 Jan 2012, 8:04 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:I really like Healy, hes one of the few whos actually allowed ( able?) to make any kind of real tactical insight into teh game. They sometimes have that Welsh chap doing the same, ill be honest...I cant understand much of what he says ( and Im Wales qualified)
I hope they have him back on the beeb for this anyway, I enjoy his ESPN stuff.

Dalliligio has got a lot better, hes no longer just an advert for leather jackets and chin products. On the ITV world cup coverage of France Wales he did make a valiant atempt to talk about something other than the Warburton red card at half time, so points for that.

Hopefuly they will have refreshed the stock of blonde fluff and come up with some badly worded questions for them.

Moore is great, I hope they dont do with him what they have with many presenters of others shows and encourage him to be a charecature of himslef though. Its not the same when its forced.

Hopefuly they will pick a Frenchie who has some vague ability to speak English.

Castagneide please
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 01 Feb 2012, 8:54 am

Apparently they have SWilliams as the token Welshman to go alongside the other 3 token Welshmen so the Welsh can moan about the English bias

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Post by offload Wed 01 Feb 2012, 9:04 am

Inverdale is useless - but I do enjoy the look of shock that he manages to produce every time England turn out yet another abject performance. You'd think by now he would be less surprised. It's worth putting up with the English bias just to watch him squirm.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 01 Feb 2012, 9:11 am

bingo!

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Post by mr_stonelea Wed 01 Feb 2012, 9:19 am

Well, Inverdale was actually a keen rugby player - much prefer that to a slick presenter who has never played the game. I played against him a couple of times - don't remember him being any good though!

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Post by offload Wed 01 Feb 2012, 9:24 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:bingo!

Wouldn't want to disappoint Very Happy
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Post by westisbest Wed 01 Feb 2012, 9:24 am

I actually like Cotter & Matthews, think Cotter has gone to ESPN.
Do like it when there is a commentator from each team thats playing.

Moore & Butler are ok, nothing to write home about.

Inverdale is a clown.

The woman on the touchline are a joke to(no offence ladies Hug ).

Dont mind Gabby Logan.

Dont mind Guscott, Jiffy & Woody.




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Post by HammerofThunor Wed 01 Feb 2012, 10:40 am

Cotter was with ESPN during the World Cup as cover. I heard him on their since I don't think. Maybe he's there first call if there's a clash.

I'd rather the host was a decent host rather than a keen rugby man. The host's job is the keep things moving along the right lines. The pundits are their to talk rugby

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 01 Feb 2012, 10:50 am

I have no problem with John Inverdale. He knows his rugby and he's articulate, which are the prerequisites. Yes, he gets more excited about England than he does about any other team in the tournament, but so what? He's an Englishman, of course he'll be more interested in his own national side.

They need to give Sonja McLaughlin and Colin Charvis the heave-ho.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 01 Feb 2012, 10:53 am

Inverdale is both a professional broadcaster and a proper rugby man, still involved with Esher now ( although teh state they are in Im not sure that too good on your CV!)

He does say some banal things at times, but thats his job as much as it is for teh Sky team to engage in ludircous hyperbole. The presenters have to cater to the casual audience, and get given a list of talking points at the production meeting.
His manner seems to annoy a lot of people, but thats partly just a deep ingrained hatred of anything vaguely English and posh a good part of the internet has. Hes a hell of a lot better than some of the people they have on ITV.

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Post by king_carlos Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:19 am

Just seen on BBC that Shane Williams is working with them during the 6 Nations which is good news! A great player and a good rugby brain.

Agree with people on Greenwood aswell would love to see him come over from Sky. One of the smartest rugby brains out there and gets his points across well.

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Post by miteyironpaw Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:26 am

I wonder if he'll sit on a cushion.
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Post by Hollbeck Ghyll Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:27 am

Cotter is still with the BBC, he's doing the Calcutta Cup this year, as far as I remember.

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Post by TrailApe Wed 01 Feb 2012, 11:48 am

Yeah - I think its Cotter and Moore for the Calcutta Cup.
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Post by XR Wed 01 Feb 2012, 12:07 pm

Jill Douglas & Sonja McWhatever are two of the most pointless people in the coverage. They ask ridiculously dull questions which have no relativity to the actual game. Need to get that woman from ESPN's coverage of the Jeff in, isn't she Simon Easterby's wife? She actually asks about the game and thoughts.

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Post by miteyironpaw Wed 01 Feb 2012, 12:14 pm

To be fair, you'll find the relativity is a function of their true positions in space-time.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 01 Feb 2012, 12:26 pm

And they're only asking the questions they're told to ask.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 01 Feb 2012, 12:54 pm

luckless_pedestrian wrote:And they're only asking the questions they're told to ask.

Yeah but they could get some better quality fluff for it.

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Post by miteyironpaw Wed 01 Feb 2012, 2:41 pm

Am I just old fashioned? or is the BBC sport website becoming progressively uglier, and harder to look at.

What's with all that yellow? Yichhhhhk.
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Post by Adam D Wed 01 Feb 2012, 2:42 pm

Its because our site is so much nicer to look at, all others seem rubbish.

Well thats the story I am sticking to!

Have you all seen the v2journal?

www.v2journal.com

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 01 Feb 2012, 2:42 pm

It's not just you, Mitey. A redesign's counterproductive if it makes a website harder to read, let alone navigate.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 01 Feb 2012, 2:45 pm

miteyironpaw wrote:Am I just old fashioned? or is the BBC sport website becoming progressively uglier, and harder to look at.

What's with all that yellow? Yichhhhhk.

I think theres a dedicated discussion for thsi but Ill post here iwth youi as its the one iM reading.

It appears everyone is now desperatly trying to copy the god awful dailymail sites design of lpots of pictures and long headlines but very difficult navigation to what you actually want.
The yellow is a bit exccesive.

The actual content of teh site is no different really.

It would be nice if they had a fan forum to discuss sport rather than relying on twitter fits and blog comments. If they were to do their own version of 606v2 that would be great.

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed 01 Feb 2012, 2:56 pm

I suppose that makes sense for the Daily Mail - PSW, as all their readers generally want is to look at the pictures (of half naked/drunk celebrities) and read the shocking headlines - all the rest is padding

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed 01 Feb 2012, 2:57 pm

By the way - on the point of the article, I can't stand Brian Moore - he makes me wish he was in the same room as him so I could punch him!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 01 Feb 2012, 3:02 pm

Smirnoffpriest wrote:I suppose that makes sense for the Daily Mail - PSW, as all their readers generally want is to look at the pictures (of half naked/drunk celebrities) and read the shocking headlines - all the rest is padding

Apparently its now the worlds most popular news website, largely down to Americans.....draw your own conclussions!

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Post by BridgendBoyo Wed 01 Feb 2012, 3:56 pm

I like Moore and Butler commentating. Though Moore does tend to lose the plot when England are playing...funny all the same

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed 01 Feb 2012, 4:08 pm

Down to Murdochs insidious tentacles snaking their way into America through the Fox network and the Wall St Journal

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed 01 Feb 2012, 4:10 pm

BridgendBoyo wrote:I like Moore and Butler commentating. Though Moore does tend to lose the plot when England are playing...funny all the same

and looses the plot whenever there's a scrum - at which point he launces into a 10 minute rant about the feed not being straight or the prop not binding or the ref not having a clue - at which point the audience are slowing loosing any clue about whats going on in the game as they can't concentrate over Brians ranting.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 01 Feb 2012, 4:17 pm

Smirnoffpriest wrote:
BridgendBoyo wrote:I like Moore and Butler commentating. Though Moore does tend to lose the plot when England are playing...funny all the same

and looses the plot whenever there's a scrum - at which point he launces into a 10 minute rant about the feed not being straight or the prop not binding or the ref not having a clue - at which point the audience are slowing loosing any clue about whats going on in the game as they can't concentrate over Brians ranting.

Would it be any different if Brian werent ranting? Theres a scrum..a thing has happened...now there is more play

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Post by SecretFly Wed 01 Feb 2012, 4:26 pm

Oh don't deny me Inverdale (actually think he's alright personally).. but even if he wasn't, there is nothing better than keeping an eye on RTE and BBC commentary to see the varying reactions to one game. It's part of the fun for me.

Guscott - cold robotic fish.

Moore - tetchy and funny to listen to.

Butler - rambling 'poet'.

Healy - Mr.FancyScarfKnot

Wood - Irish hero but inconsequential puppy-dog comments; and I can't hear most of them as he whispers through the noise behind him

Johnathan Davis - Hold it there, hold it there! Look! See that?! - Yep, I do Johnathan and I wouldn't miss it for the world.

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