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Post by TipToes88 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:04 am

Just a wee note to congratulate both sides on a clean game for once, glad to see everyone on the pitch (and in the dugout) kept their cool.

Good game, could of gone another way but the post seemed to love us yesterday

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:54 am

Yeah it was a good game. The usual bit of dig and controvery with penalty claims etc.

Good to see no real flashpoints.

We'll have to pick ourselves up and kick on from here.

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Post by AberdeenSteve Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:57 am

Aberdeen fan in peace here!

Yesterdays game was a great match - end to end stuff at times. The usual crunching tackles and back chat which just make the Old Firm games what they are. I think Rangers deserved to win - they just seemed to have a little more about them in extra time. Once again though, Charlie Mulgrew showed how big a donkey he is.

Found myself cheering a Rangers goal for the first time in my life. Lennon's face at the end was quality! Made my day Smile

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:02 am

You cheered a Rangers goal? And you call yourself an Aberdeen fan?? Hang you head in shame!

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Post by TipToes88 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:04 am

Tails, yeah its to be expected by any team. Falling over in the box is sadly part of football and its only gonna get worse. Ref made the right call on both occasions. Only Ref issues I have are Diouf's booking (don't hurt me I am not a Hadj fan) and the sending off in extra time. Thats a booking in my book even though he clearly stopped a goal scoring chance.

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Post by AberdeenSteve Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:19 am

I call myself an Aberdeen fan with a disgusting hatred towards Neil Lennon - want that man to fail so badly even If it does mean supporting the boys in blue!

Got to disagree with you on the sending off - Craig Thomson had no choice to send Izaguirre off as it would have well and truly killed the game had Weiss scored. Mulgrew was lucky not to be off too IMO.

On the other hand, I seriously feel that Jelavic should have been sent off. Disgraceful play acting - had Rangers for that penalty and scored god knows how that could have affected the game. He is one lucky man.


Surprised nobody has mentioned Forster's wonder save. Better than his St Johnstone? What you guys think?

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:23 am

There is no doubt that it was a fantastic save Steve, but the goal was poor. He should have saved Davis' effort. At that pace, height and to his near post...he should have had it.

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Post by TipToes88 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 11:16 am

Great save I have to admit, had a minor shouting contest through the wall with my tic neighbour about it actually

My side of the wall - "Yaaaassss......ffffuuuuuu nooooooo"

Neighbour - "AWW SHIIIII... yaaaas"

He used to come over for matches but apparantly we're too loud according to my better half. So we just shout at each other through the wall now

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 11:50 am

Thought it was a cracking game yesterday, had everything you could want from an Old Firm game and the right result in the end Smile

Bias aside, I think Rangers just edged it, we were hanging on a bit towards the end of regulation time but we coped pretty well with the extra half hour.

Thought Mulgrew was lucky not to be sent off for the challenge on Jelavic, if he wasn't last man then I dunno! Izaguirre had to go as well, Weiss had the pace to get through on goal. I wonder if that played a part in Craig Thomson's decision to award a red card? For example, if it had been Davie Weir running through would he have maybe given just a yellow instead?

Unbelievable save by Forster from Jelavic's free kick, not only to alter his position but to get a strong enough hand to tip it over the bar. Think Whittaker deserves a mention for how well he did once he shifted to centre back, his block for Hooper's shot towards the end was outstanding.

Thought the ref had a really good game, none of the penalty shouts were worthy of a spot-kick in my opinion, Jelavic deserved the booking. Thought he was gonna get another one because he started to take his shirt off after the goal. I was jumping around the living room with a couple of mates and stopped mid-celebration to shout "DON'T YOU TAKE THAT SHIRT OFF!" Smile

It'll be interesting to see how both teams react now, the international break should in theory favour Rangers but time will tell I guess.

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Post by AberdeenSteve Mon 21 Mar 2011, 12:20 pm

Got to agree with you DT - He should have saved Davis's strike. If Davis had gotten full contact it would have probably never gone in!

Glad Y2D2 agrees with me on Mulgrew being sent off - If he wasn't the last man I must be blind.

Another thought, I never even knew Gary Hooper had started until the 114th minute. Doh

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 12:25 pm

I have to say the REAL Charismatic Enigma had a pretty good game yesterday.

Gorgeous George was showing of some dazzling footwork and a fantastic turn of pace at times.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 1:16 pm

Got to agree DT.

Me and my mates were having the usual pre-match banter about him and going on about him signing a new contract but he was Celtic's best player in my opinion. We just couldn't seem to deal with him when he was on the ball and working the channels.

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 2:17 pm

He is fantastic when he is in the mood.

When he's not...he's as useful as an empty shirt.

Couldn't fault him yesterday though.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 2:21 pm

He was top notch yesterday I thought.

Couldn't believe how quiet Hooper was though. Was that due to lack of service? He didn't even go looking for the ball that much, Samaras was running into the channels and dropping deep but Hooper was nowhere. Haven't seen much of him, is he the kind of guy who needs it put on a plate for him or was yesterday just an off day?

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 2:34 pm

I think it's a mix of both to be honest.

He is great in and around the box. Usually. Yesterday was a VERY quiet day for him. He's doing well in his debut season though. Proving a lot of people that said he wouldn't make the leap from Scunthorpe to Celtic wrong.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 2:42 pm

Well there were a lot of people who scoffed when Celtic bought him but I tend not to do that any more after getting told "That Larsson guy is pish and he's got daft hair" (I'd only seen him in the 1994 World Cup at that point) so I reserve judgment on all signings now! Very Happy

Can't knock Hooper's goals return though, and Stokes has got a bagful as well this season. That's what worries me about Celtic this season, you might concede silly goals here and there but more often than not you'll have the firepower to win games.

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 2:53 pm

I would have to agree. The fact that we have a dodgy backline doesn't help though.

Loovens is a horse. Just hoofs the ball clear. I have been fairly impressed with Chuck recently filling in at centre back. He's definitely not a left back. Rogne is injury prone and Maj is a bit mental. Hoping Wilson will be able to come in at the end of the season and shore up our leaky defense.

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Post by TipToes88 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 2:56 pm

Hate to sound like "that" Rangers fan, but part of the reason Hooper played so badly is because Wier never let him out of sight. Spent most of the game in big Davie's back pocket. And if we're talking about back lines we did'nt exactly have a top notch back 5.

Not trolling by the way lol

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 3:03 pm

It just goes to show what a difference it makes when you actually have a go though. The last couple of Old Firm games we've been poor and haven't really got in amongst your players, whereas yesterday we gave you very little time to settle and exposed your (somewhat) fragile backline. We didn't do that in the previous games at Parkhead and very rarely in the 2-2 at Ibrox.

That 2nd half against PSV might have saved our season, because I guarantee that if we'd gone out to a late goal Walter Smith would have kept it 5-4-1 against you yesterday.

Maybe the injury to Bartley forced his hand somewhat but if it had been a late goal that knocked us out on Thursday instead of us having to chase the game and showing that we can play a pressing game, we'd have had more of the same yesterday with us inviting pressure and trying to catch you on the break.

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 3:07 pm

The thing is TipToes I never claimed you did. The difference is, that while your back line isn't exactly world class, they are settled. They know each others games. As much as I dislike him, Weir is a good defender to have in there. I do think that Weir and Bougherra get off with their share of fouls though. Celtic seem to chop and change their defence every other week.

I know we should have walked that game yesterday. I honestly think we should. It just didn't happen. Rangers attacked a lot more than I expected though. I'm used to the Anti-Football style that Uncle Wattie has adopted. It was an entertaining game. It could have went either way.


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Post by Fernando Mon 21 Mar 2011, 3:39 pm

Shocked dt misspelled

2-1 seemed a fair result, none of the pen appeals were a pen. only issue i have is mulgrew should of gone being last man back and emilio should of been booked

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 3:46 pm

fernando wrote: Shocked dt misspelled

2-1 seemed a fair result, none of the pen appeals were a pen. only issue i have is mulgrew should of gone being last man back and emilio should of been booked

To err is human nando, for I am only that!

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 3:54 pm

fernando wrote:emilio should of been booked

Got to disagree with you there nando, Weiss would have been clean through and no-one would have caught him. Fair enough he might have sclaffed the shot (Smile) but it would still have been a clear goal-scoring opportunity

I'd love to see what would have happened if it had been someone like Weir (i.e. not quick) on that charge though, would the referee have been within his rights to say "He's slow so someone would have got back in time therefore it's only a yellow card"? I reckon in that case a booking is spot on.

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 3:57 pm

I have to agree with Y2 here.

With regards to the 2. Jelavic had pushed it wider and taken it a bit away from goal when Chuck took him out. That is the ONLY reason I can see it being yellow and not red.

Izzy knew exactly what he was doing. He just stepped in and blocked the run. I hate Weiss...but he made a huge impact yesterday and definitely would have been able to get away and through on goal. Therefore the red was the right decision.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 4:12 pm

David Tails wrote:Jelavic had pushed it wider and taken it a bit away from goal when Chuck took him out. That is the ONLY reason I can see it being yellow and not red.


I never saw the replay for this incident DT. I remember thinking at the time that it should be a red because it didn't look as if Jelavic knocked it THAT wide but I could have been mistaken. Was it a fair bit wide from goal or was the ref wrong?

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 4:14 pm

I'm not entirely sure myself to be honest. It looked like it might have went a bit wider than he anticipated but he would still have been 1v1 and it would have been a goal scoring opportunity. They may have classed it more of a half chance than a clear cut opportunity though.

The other thing I wanted a replay of was the "off the ball incident" that led to the winning goal. Did we see a replay of that AT ALL??


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Post by TipToes88 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 4:17 pm

What off the ball incident? I went for a leak a couple times, no memory of this at all

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Mon 21 Mar 2011, 4:19 pm

David Tails wrote:The other thing I wanted a replay of was the "off the ball incident" that led to the winning goal. Did we see a replay of that AT ALL??

Didn't see it at the time it was supposed to have happened and didn't see a replay. I thought at first the ref was blowing because Jelavic or Weiss were offside. Next thing I saw was Weiss getting up off the deck.

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Post by David Tails Mon 21 Mar 2011, 4:23 pm

There was an off-the-ball incident that resulted in the ref awarding Rangers the free kick that Weiss took quickly to set up the goal.

I still haven't seen a replay of it. One minute Celtic had the ball...the next Weiss was taking a quick free kick and the game was as good as oveer.

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Post by AberdeenSteve Mon 21 Mar 2011, 7:32 pm

All I have to say is - Mulgrew was at fault. Comical!

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Post by Kay Fabe Wed 23 Mar 2011, 7:56 pm

No complaints from me, fair result and the team who looked like they wanted it more got it, hope our season goes off the rails now

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