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Post by Shifty Wed 15 Feb 2012, 11:02 pm

First topic message reminder :

I realised that if Wales win a slam this year it will make this Welsh generation just as successful as the 1969-1979 legends.
During that era we won 3 Grand Slams, 5 Triple crowns and outright championships, and beat Australia twice.

The only team who beat Wales in Cardiff between 1968 and 1982 were New Zealand who won there twice, no other country managed it.
In those 10 years between 1970-1979, we beat England 9 games in 10. We beat Scotland 8 out of 10. Ireland were beaten 8 times with 1 draw in 10. France were a bit better as we beat them 6 times with 1 draw in 10.

Clearly this generation is not as good as the 70's guys, but if we can do 3 Slams, then at least in that respect we could call this a golden era for Welsh rugby, especially since it is harder to succeed in the professional game than it was in the amateur era.

Hell if we can do 2 more before 2015 then this will be our best ever decade! Whistle
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Post by doctor_grey Fri 17 Feb 2012, 7:45 pm

biltongbek wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Yep, its nearly 17 years ago now.... Some of the posters on here werent even born then Laugh
Laugh
And we can still give them a run for their money. Yahoo
You bet your ever lovin "A" we can, mate.

I got drafted to play on Saturday morning in West London on a pitch which was a lovely mix of ice and crust and mud and dirt and grass and goose poop. Got stuck in and played a full feckin 80 against this French club. Almost scored, except the referee blew it up because I was offside (which, of course I was). Most of the gents on the other side were in their 20s and early 30s. And we pulled off a win which was even more shocking, considering we had a drooling, doddering, elderly inside centre. I remember being so tired I couldn't breathe at one point. But then I remembered an old coach telling me breathing is overrated and to do it later. He was right, of course. I still can't walk right (I think I pulled my right calf muscle). Couldn't be happier.

So, yes we can always get out there and gut out a match.
Just for the hell of it.
For the fun of it.
Because that's what we do.

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Post by slartibartfast Fri 17 Feb 2012, 7:53 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
biltongbek wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Yep, its nearly 17 years ago now.... Some of the posters on here werent even born then Laugh
Laugh
And we can still give them a run for their money. Yahoo
You bet your ever lovin "A" we can, mate.

I got drafted to play on Saturday morning in West London on a pitch which was a lovely mix of ice and crust and mud and dirt and grass and goose poop. Got stuck in and played a full feckin 80 against this French club. Almost scored, except the referee blew it up because I was offside (which, of course I was). Most of the gents on the other side were in their 20s and early 30s. And we pulled off a win which was even more shocking, considering we had a drooling, doddering, elderly inside centre. I remember being so tired I couldn't breathe at one point. But then I remembered an old coach telling me breathing is overrated and to do it later. He was right, of course. I still can't walk right (I think I pulled my right calf muscle). Couldn't be happier.

So, yes we can always get out there and gut out a match.
Just for the hell of it.
For the fun of it.
Because that's what we do.

You had mike tindell at inside centre?
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Post by eirebilly Fri 17 Feb 2012, 7:54 pm

laughing Slarti made a funny Very Happy
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Fri 17 Feb 2012, 8:07 pm

miteyironpaw wrote:
Woodstock wrote: music Isn't it!! music

Like 10,000 Alanis Morisettes, when all you wanted was a musician.
Irony, huh?!

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Post by Biltong Fri 17 Feb 2012, 8:43 pm

doctor_grey wrote: I remember being so tired I couldn't breathe at one point. But then I remembered an old coach telling me breathing is overrated and to do it later. He was right, of course.

Yahoo I just love that.
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Post by Taffineastbourne Fri 17 Feb 2012, 10:29 pm

biltongbek wrote:
slartibartfast wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:yeah england being the best in the world and being world chmaps in nothing on wales 4th place in a rwc and 6th in the world- lol

very Ex world cup winners
And yet, the current holders of the 6 nations trophy. chin
Until they drop it!! Smile

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Post by miteyironpaw Fri 17 Feb 2012, 10:50 pm

People's of the principality. Please wait until you have achieved something before you start blowing your trumpets. Honestly, that is the conventional way of things. Everyone else does it. Why can't you?
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Post by doctor_grey Fri 17 Feb 2012, 11:54 pm

biltongbek wrote:
doctor_grey wrote: I remember being so tired I couldn't breathe at one point. But then I remembered an old coach telling me breathing is overrated and to do it later. He was right, of course.
Yahoo I just love that.
Thanks Biltong. True story. You know, I think I might have had a strange upbringing in Rugby.

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Post by Shifty Sat 18 Feb 2012, 3:11 pm

Messymesina wrote:Alyn, it's madness to talk of Grand Slams after 2 matches, however you left out of your 70s review the draw between Wales and South Africa in 1970.
Gareth Edwards I believe missed a conversion that would have won us the match.

I thought it was more important to state New Zealand were the only team to beat us at home in that era, it sounded better. Smile

Morgannwg wrote:Alyn, you're a ledge. Nice article. Should we win this years tournament we will only have the English tell us it's devalued due to bad weather, post world cup transitional periods, new coaches, new players.... Why even bother turning up eh.

It's standard practice to say a grand slam doesnt mean anything because al lthe other teamswere rubbish, thats just 6 nations life I'm afraid.
Even if it is the case there will always be1 or 2 cracking games and backs to the wall efforts to pull it off.
Wales winning in Paris in 2005, Ireland winning in Cardiff in 2009, when only that Stephen Jones penalty in the last second was the difference between a Welsh triple crown and an Irish grand slam.

miteyironpaw wrote:How is it that you can have a golden era in which you didn't beat the All Blacks?

We didn't dare call our English golden age a "golden age" even when we beat the Southern Hemisphere 17 times on the trot.
It's a matter of contention, we were winning one of the games until the last minute but they had a pre planned move where Hadden would dive out of the line out to win a penalty to win a penalty. Just google Andy Hadden and penalty and you can read up on it. You may even find a video of it somewhere. Though maybe Wales deserved it after that foot in touch thing we had a few years earlier.

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Post by miteyironpaw Sat 18 Feb 2012, 3:13 pm

Yes, what a great team you'd be if you could have had the referee blow for full time whenever you got in the lead eh ? ! Whistle
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Post by nganboy Mon 20 Feb 2012, 12:47 am

[quote="AlynDavies"]
Messymesina wrote:

New Zealand never forgave us for being th first country to beat them at rugby... If Wales win a slam this year? - Page 3 3933776953

I think there was controversial ref call in that one too
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Post by slartibartfast Mon 20 Feb 2012, 1:05 am

All this talk of Wales winning the slam... we've stil got to play two of the most powerful teams in the Northern Hemisphere. And don't forget England next week!
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Post by Morgannwg Mon 20 Feb 2012, 1:25 am

[quote="nganboy"]
AlynDavies wrote:
Messymesina wrote:

New Zealand never forgave us for being th first country to beat them at rugby... If Wales win a slam this year? - Page 3 3933776953

I think there was controversial ref call in that one too

Not being able to lose graciously since 1905, oh dear.
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Post by Messymesina Mon 20 Feb 2012, 7:20 pm

[quote="nganboy"]
AlynDavies wrote:
Messymesina wrote:

New Zealand never forgave us for being th first country to beat them at rugby... If Wales win a slam this year? - Page 3 3933776953

I think there was controversial ref call in that one too

Just a technical query here, I didn't say "New Zealand never forgave us for being th first country to beat them at rugby" Alyn did, however the quote is attributed to me. Not that I mind on this occasion, but how is this possible?

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Post by Guest Tue 21 Feb 2012, 8:40 pm

Messymesina wrote:
Just a technical query here, I didn't say "New Zealand never forgave us for being th first country to beat them at rugby" Alyn did, however the quote is attributed to me. Not that I mind on this occasion, but how is this possible?
It's a tag nesting foul-up caused by a bit of injudicious editing. There's nothing (other than your conscience and the ensuing mod slap-down) to stop you "quoting" anyone out of context. I am NOT condoning this behaviour. It's immoral and wrong Smile

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Post by Gibson Tue 21 Feb 2012, 9:00 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
damngoodOvalball wrote:
Gibson wrote:
Woodstock wrote:yeah since 2008, so long ago Erm

But your regions - are still abysmal.

Who knows. One day, ye may even become a proper Country.

But. I dont think so. Far too in love with, and happily owned by - the English.

Nice grenade you've thrown there Gibbo! 1.29am eh? Few Oranjebooms and a reefer?
Laugh

Volley. Errm, please dont associate me with Oranjeboom. Far too working-and-no-class. It was Haut Medoc, and no reefer.
If Id smoked a spliff, it would have been a lurve-post. Nothing worse.

On guinness now, and I really hope this Welsh team goes all they way. They play sublime rugby. The way it should be played. OK

Credu.
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Post by Tommy David lookalike Sat 25 Feb 2012, 11:34 am

Youre not THE Gibson, are you?

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Post by eirebilly Sat 25 Feb 2012, 11:50 am

Only when he is drunk Tommy Laugh
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Post by Shifty Sat 25 Feb 2012, 2:16 pm

Messymesina wrote:Just a technical query here, I didn't say "New Zealand never forgave us for being th first country to beat them at rugby" Alyn did, however the quote is attributed to me. Not that I mind on this occasion, but how is this possible?

No,no I wasn't attributed to you, it was in reference that legend has it we screwed them in their first ever international loss, so they screwed us in the 70's as revenge and they have smashed us out of sight in every game since the 80's for the most part.
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Post by Casartelli Sat 25 Feb 2012, 2:32 pm

Gibson wrote:
Woodstock wrote:yeah since 2008, so long ago Erm

But your regions - are still abysmal.

Who knows. One day, ye may even become a proper Country.

But. I dont think so. Far too in love with, and happily owned by - the English.

The advantage in letting them think they own you is that you can't go bankrupt and, thus, become an international laughing stock.

And your gameplan on the pitch doesn't rely on choke tackles. Where and when did that start to become acceptable???

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Post by nathan Sat 25 Feb 2012, 2:51 pm

far far to early to be speaking of grand slams, sounds like a bit of arrogance to me. Whistle

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 25 Feb 2012, 3:12 pm

nathan wrote:far far to early to be speaking of grand slams, sounds like a bit of arrogance to me. Whistle

It's only arrogance if England do it. Anyone else is just confident

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Post by Shifty Sat 25 Feb 2012, 6:24 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:It's only arrogance if England do it. Anyone else is just confident

Hell if the Welsh back their team to win were not called arrogant were lynched!
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 25 Feb 2012, 7:12 pm

Well, I'll be supporting Wales against France at least.
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Post by tatterd Sat 25 Feb 2012, 9:23 pm

by majesticimperialman on Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:46 am

.If Wales winh a Grand Slam this year. it will be a miracle.

It will also be because of the weather, what with France and Ireland having to play 3 games in a row.

Why not waite and see If, If you beat England first, before you even think about Grand Slams

Can we start thinking now Maj???

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