The 606v2 Euro Division

I'm looking to put together a new league over the next couple of weeks and am just this out to garner levels of interest as there are already a couple of leagues out there so I don't want to swamp the section.

Where this will be different to the existing leagues is that the sides involved are entirely made up.
You don't inherit a pre-made European side.

Instead you make your own.
You would initially start with £150m with which to buy a MINIMUM of 15 players and a MAXIMUM of 23 players.
The prices for these players are determined entirely through the transfermarkt website.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/

But here's where it gets interesting...the prices that are used on transfermarkt are the minimum you can bid, because other people in the league may also want the same person, so do you risk bidding the flat fee or do you bid more (increased bids have to be a minimum £500k more), the other point of note at this stage is that the maximum value player you can bid on is £15m (though you can choose to bid more than the £15m to get the player)

You then get an ADDITIONAL £50m with which to purchase upto 2 STAR players (min 1), though the maximum you can spend on 1 player is £35m.
This will then result in you having a team of a minimum of 16 players and maximum of 25 players.
You then have to name the team, give it a location where they play their home games and send this via PM to myself and Sodhat before the cut off point (to be decided).
Results of who got which player will then be announced and for those that lost out on players due to being outbid, a second chance is available to acquire players before the league starts, and third etc if needed.

Number of leagues is dependent upon how many players participate.

Foreign transfers.
As the only deciding factor for selling a player is cash then there shouldn't be wrangles over if a TP is accepted or not, if you have the cash you can buy!
TPs though will only go through once a week on a Sunday night for the week ahead.
Max transfer value for bringing in a player from foreign transfers is £15m in Season 1.
You can only make 2 foreign transfers per week.

Domestic transfers
Players can move only twice between domestic clubs per season, once they have moved twice you will have to wait until the following season to sell to another domestic club.
They can though be released or sold to an outside club.

For anyone that joins the league after it begins then the following rule applies for the first two weeks:
Transfers between 2 domestic clubs must be within 20% of each other in total monetary value. So for example if Team A wish to buy a player from Team B worth £10m then they must offer between £8-£12m in player/cash value.
Note that once 2 weeks have passed then the manager is allowed to but and sell as they please but this rule is in place to combat the usual bombardment of silly offers that litter the new managers page.

Injuries
Injuries shall be announced once per week on a Sunday night, they shall consist of 2 players, one based from the team picked for the previous weeks game and one from the entire squad.

Tactics

Each week you shall play 1 game, either league or cup (no more than one game per week though), tactics for this game shall consist of a team sheet, injuries for your team, if your team is home or away and a maximum of 15 bullet point lines worth of team instructions.
As well as the tactical instructions you are allowed 2 extra lines of a team talk to motivate your players, show your worth not just for tactics but how you build players up for the game!

Cash

Each week you receive 2m for a win, 1m for a draw, zilch for a loss.
You also receive an extra £1m per week for ensuring your tactics are handed in on time and you've voted on the results.
Each week there shall be a £1m cash bonus to the team voted best tactics.

Hopefully this is enough to entice to sign up! If you have any further questions then please do not hesitate to ask and I look forward to seeing your team sheets!

Confirmed participants

1. Macclads
2. Fernando
3. The BrahmaBull
4. CherriesFan
5. Ollyrules
6. YI Man
7. TSC
8. Twist
9. Marky
10. Nay Bother
11. In the Fast Lane
12. Nick Fury
13. BigFellasAfro
14. ncfc_Tooze
15. Fan Gilhaus
16. VivaPaulScholes

How does the bidding process work to get your players.
On a thread or via pm?

Together the players initially then you would have to hand in your team sheet to the opposing league runner by a set date.
Once ALL team sheets have been handed in they shall be revealed and obviously there will some players who appear on at least one squad, the team that has bid highest gets that player, those that didn't then get a 2nd opportunity to buy a new player.

To make things fair the league runners team sheets will be compiled first and sent to the other league runner to avoid any possibility of league runners outbidding others questionably.

count me in

If anyone is interested in the role of a league runner please let me know via TP.
It will involve a bit of work each week compiling results etc and in the initial set up.

Macclads wrote:If anyone is interested in the role of a league runner please let me know via TP.
It will involve a bit of work each week compiling results etc and in the initial set up.

In the following format:

Bid:
Reason:

how does this work?

Read above!

i could be in hero , which teams do we get?

You have to make your own, you don't get assigned one.
Think fantasy football in the papers but everyone has to pick unique teams.

im confused by that

You start with no players at all.
But 150m to buy your squad, another 50m to buy up to 2 star players.

oh i see and we name are team etc?

so the most we can spend on a big star is? 50m?

will we be told who is classed as a big star and who is not

The star player kitty is £50m
This can be spent on upto 2 players though no one player can be more than £35m in value.
The players values are entirely based on transfermarkts valuations.

but for example Ronaldo is valued at 79m does that mean no one can buy him?

as 35m is the top amount aloud to be spent on a star?

Exactly! None of the top players are available thus hopefully keeping a level playing field for as long as possible and not resulting in it becoming immediately, oh he has Messi on his team sheet, therefore he wins.

oh i see ok ill give it a shot then

u already know im in
(u know as a runner )
((im only joking ))

Here's for example of the starting of a team sheet I quickly put together:

GK: Carlos Kameni 1.8m
GK: Wojciech Szczesny 10.5m

DEF: P Jagielka £10.5m
DEF: S. Coates £4.4m
DEF: Fabio £7m
DEF: S. MBia £12.5m


MID: F Lampard £8.4m
MID: A Johnson £10.2m
MID: E. Banega £11.5m
MID: Topal £7m

STR: C Bellamy £3.5m
STR: D Forlan £9.3m
STR: A Oxlade Chamberlain £8.8m

Star player Bastian Schweinsteiger £33.5m

Cool count me in

I'm in

In I am

Im in as well

I'm in.

Im in

Cheers guys, so for not replying earlier but spent the day at the circus!

how do i write my runner TP?

You don't have to write a TP, just a PM

can we start to send are squads then?

I'm in

General question if the player is worth 20m then can i bid more then that?

Yes you can, that's the risk you have with players.
Bid the exact fee and you run the risk of someone else bidding more, but bid more on a player and no one else shows an interest and you've wasted money you needn't have paid.

TheBrahmaBull wrote:can we start to send are squads then?

Not just yet thanks, need to see how many people take part and then assign runner roles.
Once that's done then need to get the leagues picked so you know who to send squads to, then for mine and the runners to do our squads prior to anyone else in the interest of fair play (as if people are sending me their team sheets I'd know how much to bid to get players)

Excel spreadsheet open.......CHECK
Calculation function on..........CHECK
transfermarkt website up......CHECK

Bring. It. On

I put together the first draft of my team last night.
19 players.
£184m

Hmm back to the drawing board there!

Macclads wrote:I put together the first draft of my team last night.
19 players.
£184m

Hmm back to the drawing board there!

Macs, it is going to be the "oh I didn't think of him" scenario. Go for the usual suspects and you might miss out through a low bid.

There are a lot of hidden gems that people might not have thought of.

There's about 4 or 5 in my lists I thought 'wow!' at in regards to price etc.

Yeah I noticed that to. It pays to take your time and do a bit of research.

Did Draft A of my team last 200 Million on the dot

Now its classic Fantasy team tinkering

Nay Bother wrote:Did Draft A of my team last 200 Million on the dot

Now its classic Fantasy team tinkering

You need to get rid of 50M of talent Nay, which isn't easy. Unless you have added your two "star players" to that total

nope, i have

150 Million - 15 players
50 Million - 2 star players

Perfect

I went with the approach of 10m a player as the basis.
Then I realised I needed more cover in certain areas when I had just 1 spare defender. Added some, blew the budget.

Great idea this one, I wish I had the time to take a team but I get the feeling I would be fired...

I could help with some runner duties if you needed me to Hero

Otherwise good luck, looks like a lot of familiar faces in here!

I am going to perfect them tonight.

Way I see it you need 2 GK's, 4 FB's, 3 CB's, 3 CM's, 4 Wingers and 3 CF's

That makes 19. Get some players that can cover two positions and you are laughing.

EDIT: I may go 4 CM's as there are different types (CDM, AM). I would still go for 3 CB's though. So that makes 20

Using Macs idea of 10M per player makes the magic 200M figure.

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Are people okay with this ruling:

Transfers between 2 domestic clubs must be within 20% of each other in total monetary value. So for example if Team A wish to buy a player from Team B worth £10m then they must offer between £8-£12m in player/cash value.

It's been noted it may stifle the sale of players as the selling club would be less inclined to sell if they were only getting a 20% mark up.
I put the rule in place to stop clubs basically getting fleeced for all its quality players and to keep it hopefully quite even but I can see both sides of the coin.

Any suggestions would be great!

Just PM'd you a suggestion

Macclads wrote:Are people okay with this ruling:

Transfers between 2 domestic clubs must be within 20% of each other in total monetary value. So for example if Team A wish to buy a player from Team B worth £10m then they must offer between £8-£12m in player/cash value.

It's been noted it may stifle the sale of players as the selling club would be less inclined to sell if they were only getting a 20% mark up.
I put the rule in place to stop clubs basically getting fleeced for all its quality players and to keep it hopefully quite even but I can see both sides of the coin.

Any suggestions would be great!

I don't actually think you need the 20% ruling. Reason being that the way this whole league is being set up means that it should be pretty even across the board from the start. Fact is if you are stupid enough to pay way over the odds for a player (and believe me I have done it) or sell them for a stupid low price, then that is all part of being in a league. I know you want to make it fair, and it will be fair the way the league is being set up, but you have to make it competitive as well.

Another problem is transfer involving more than 1 player and player swaps......its is going to get messy.

I think their should be a transfer cap (maybe 50M). But a) I don't see how any player in the league (with this format and the 25M star player) WOULD be worth or wanted for around 50M and b) I don't see how someone could raise that amount of surplus cash anyway.

Afro has come up with an ideal solution (cheers!)

Any new manager has the 20% ruling applied to them for the first 2 weeks, this hopefully eliminates the hyena tactics (that I myself employ) on newbies. After that it's fair game.

I think Twist is right for the managers from the start, but putting something in to protect future new managers from getting fleeced before they realise the true value of their players, is a good idea.