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Post by TwisT Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:58 am

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The Team That Knows About The Proper Pint

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STARTING BUDGET - £200,000,000 (150M + 50M Star Budget)
CURRENT BUDGET - £11,050,000
SQUAD SIZE - 20 Players

Goalkeepers
Joe HartGoalkeeper
Shay GivenGoalkeeper
Defenders
AdrianoLeft Back/Left Midfield/Right Back/Right Midfield
Stephan LichtsteinerRight Back/Right Midfield
Leighton BainesLeft Back/Left Midfield
Jan VertonghenCentre Back
Fabricio ColocciniCentre Back
Chris SmallingCentre Back
Ryan ShawcrossCentre Back
Midfielders
Yohan CabayeCentre Midfield
Joe AllenCentre Midfield/Defensive Centre Midfield
Lucas LeivaCentre Midfield/Defensive Centre Midfield
Tom CleverlyCentre Midfield/Right Midfield/Left Midfield
Eden HazardAttacking Centre Midfield/Right Wing/Left Wing
Marko MarinAttacking Centre Midfield/Right Wing/Left Wing
Hatem Ben ArfaAttacking Centre Midfield/Left Wing/Right Wing
Strikers
Olivier GiroudCentre Forward
Lukas PodolskiCentre Forward/Left Wing/Second Striker
Luis SuarezCentre Forward/Right Wing/Second Striker
Darren BentCentre Forward

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Post by Hero Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:56 pm

Muller for Giovinco?
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Post by sodhat Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:58 pm

Remy/Jovetic/other for Muller?

Purely speculation on my behalf at the moment, just to see where you rate him.

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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:14 am

Not interested in a deal if I need to include Hazard then, any other way I can get Hernandez?

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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:28 am

Would want Muller included

Muller + Hernandez
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Lisandro/Matri + Hazard

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Post by Afro Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:41 am

Lewandowski + Cleverley + £20m = Muller + Hernandez
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Cleverley + £25m = Muller

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Post by Afro Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:50 am

TwisT wrote:Robert Lewandowski + 20m = Muller

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Normally I would consider that, but you know as well as I do that decent strikers are difficult to sign on here. They are either above the TP threshold, or already with clubs who won't sell.

So I have to say no sorry
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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:52 am

I'm not too fussed about the money if I'm honest. I could add one of my listed players or add some cash, whichever you'd prefer. Don't want to include Robinho or Welbeck as if I lose Hazard, then Robinho will become a key player and I'm signing Hernandez to partner Welbeck.

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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:58 am

I'm not interested in that sort of deal, as to lose Hazard I need someone quality (Muller)

I don't think we'll reach an agreement, so will leave it, sorry.

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Post by Afro Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:03 am

Straight cash for Hernandez?
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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:06 am

Unless...

Lisandro + Matri + Hazard
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Muller + Hernandez + ?

could be some cash, or a lowish rated player

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Post by Afro Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:11 am

Well, he's £17.5m on TM value

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and you said you would want an inflated price, so a 20% mark-up is £21m

How about that?
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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:15 am

Just deal with Afro OK

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Post by Afro Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:22 am

Ta, confirmed it Ok!

A higher price than I really wanted, but gives me a fox in the box striker which I currently lack, plus I would rather have players than cash as the cash has proved to be difficult to spend!!
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Post by Afro Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:34 am

£5m and Hernandez for Cardozo!!!?

You did well there
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Post by FIFA Diva Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:14 am

No thanks.
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Post by Bull Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:16 am

you dont rate cardzoz do you afro at all?

meh your just one person anyway.

depends really what you want me to give?

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Post by Marky Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:16 am

Dempsey and £9M (after i've voted) for Muller
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Post by Bull Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:19 am

Muller intrested. Whistle

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Post by Marky Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:21 am

I didn't know Thomas Muller plays on the Ring Wing Laugh

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Post by Bull Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:39 am

no thanks then. OK

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Post by sodhat Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:07 am

Ozil + Suarez = Muller + 21m

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TM wise that is actually near 50/50.

True, but in value to me I'm much happier with Ozil and Suarez over Muller and cash.


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Post by sodhat Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:07 am

You're right to think that!

I paid 25m for him so I wouldn't sell for less. Or at all really, I want to keep him!

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Post by sodhat Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:29 am

It's all style of play, I don't really use a typical big man so I'm happy with my forwards. I signed Mandzukic should I wish to push someone up top to head it in. So I won't take a loss on Suarez because I will be using him.

Plus Viva will never sell Huntelaar Laugh



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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:02 am

I'm up for a deal regarding Muller, but don't know what you want in exchange.

Make me an offer?

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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:13 pm

I would, if possible, like to get Muller and Hazard in the same side, personally I rate them about equally, maybe slightly Hazard higher. Muller's been in and out of the Bayern team all season.

If you're going to use the argument people see more of Muller, then just think, when Hazard's in the Premier League next season people will be seeing more of him.

So, unless I can get Muller without using Hazard, or I get a gain elsewhere. Sorry.

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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:34 pm

---------------------------Given---------------------------
Lichtsteiner------Shawcross--------Cahill-------------Adriano
-------------------M'Vila-----------Toulalan-----------------
------Reus------------------Muller--------------Schurrle----
--------------------------De Jong-----------------------

Robinho could be a direct replacement for Muller?

And to go with your French spine, and chemistry is really important in centre backs.
I can give you Mexes and Rami, who people will see in the Euros. And Ahamada is a French keeper who has had a very good season.

Therefore:

Robinho + Ahamada + Mexes + Rami
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Muller + Gary Cahill + Cash/Shawcross

Only an ENQ for now, but something in that ballpark?

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Post by Trebs Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:58 pm

The keeper was a little sweetener, no more than that. The idea was to pair Mexes and Rami which is the French Euros partnership, and I reckon they'll go far.

IMO I saw it as

Robinho << Muller
Rami => Gary Cahill
Mexes > Shawcross/cash
Ahamada > .. (but was only a small sweetener anyway, would play him over Given)


If you want Cabaye, we can do something else.

Cabaye + Robinho
=
Muller

Simple offer, even if you're not a fan of Robinho, who has had a good season at Milan, then the lawyers offer will be at least 20m?

That's got to be 30m worth of talent easy.

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Post by Trebs Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 am

Made you a counter-offer ages ago Whistle

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:00 pm

It's going to take a lot of cash for me to part with either tbh. I am still doing the league thing, and there isn't really many better I can get in TP's or from people on here (realistically)
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:19 pm

Sorry I'm not really interested in Riise or Shawcross! It's a good offer but neither of them would be able enough replacements really OK
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:29 pm

I tell you what how about Richards + Jagielka = Giroud + Cahill
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:21 am

Umm it would be in excess of £20M for Baines as he is hard to replace. Richards is really NFS in terms of cash
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Post by Russell_Elmo Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:15 am

No deal

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Post by Marky Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:11 am

You want to spend £24m?

Yanga-Mbiwa, Cahill and £24m
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Boateng and Badstuber
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Post by Marky Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:33 am

Just figured you'd want two first choice German international defenders to go with your German attack...

Your loss Whistle

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Post by Marky Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:05 am

In that case;

Reus, Muller and Schurrle
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Farfan, Afellay and Dempsey
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:21 am

No deal.

The only person I would ever swap Xavi for is Iniesta.
Dont want to lose Podolski either.

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Post by Russell_Elmo Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:16 am

Rues for Ganso + £4.5m

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:57 pm

Nene + Given + 10m = Hart + Podolski
Given + £10m does not = Hart
Nene does not = Podolski lol
Sorry, but you dont really have anyone I would be interested in for Podolski

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:25 am

TwisT wrote:Still doing PL players only Olly?

I have loads of dosh and quality players. What for Bale?

I am doing English League players only actually Wink

Dunno about the quality players bit hey Wink

For Bale? It would take a heck of a lot tbh, I bought him for £40 million and now I will be losing Ba, he is my main man. There is noone I can replace him with in the league so he is NFS
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:58 am

what is the current tp limit, and when does it next increase?

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Post by Fernando Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:07 am

can't say im interested in losing either tbh but i'll listen to what ud have to offer anyway

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:28 am

Having thought about it, the only person in tp's i would replace Podolski with is Tevez (if hes not already in the game)
However, Tevez may not be playing in England next season and Podolski will be, therefore I would prefer to keep Podolski over him.

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Post by nadeem2099 Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:38 pm

Sorry but none of them offers interest me twist. Make an improved offer.
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Post by nadeem2099 Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:12 pm

TwisT wrote:Nene + Mertens + Huth + Shawcross + Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa + 15m = Young + Smalling + Jones + Valencia

That is everything together in one deal, so it is easier. Negotiate on that.

And I improve where lol???

Muller + Cahill = Valencia + Jones
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:16 pm

Lukas P = 15m + Nene + Mertens

Or I could offer Schurrle, Muller or Reus to get a deal done
Sorry, but none of those players really interest me as his replacement.

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Post by Russell_Elmo Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:54 pm

I have a proposition for you. If still have Muller come the end of the season and looking to sell him.

I'll bid on a pre-agreed star player that you're interested in and we can do a deal?

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Post by Russell_Elmo Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:24 pm

I don't have anyone I want to lose.

Anyway it was just an idea..

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Post by nadeem2099 Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:06 am

I think your rating Muller a bit too highly imo. He is a good player but as a right winger Valencia is > Muller.
I also rate Young > Nene and Shawcross and Huth are not that highly rated.
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Post by Trebs Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:20 am

Hey mate.

I need lawyers really before I can make a judgement. The price we agreed could work, depending on what happens. But I need to wait and see. Definitely don't want Strootman, he was going to be the breakout star of the Euros and it didn't work.

Basically, get a move on with lawyers and we can reach an agreement Whistle

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