The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub

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Welcome to the Virtual Rugby Pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the pictures of Ben Morgan, Stuart Hogg, Simon Zebo and birthday boy Penfro above the bar.



Old pub: https://www.606v2.com/t24147p1000-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub#991906

Paul O'Connell was my man of the match yesterday. Sexton was solid and kicked his kicks this time but I didn't see where man of the match came from on this occasion.

RTE chose Sexton as MoTM, but the BBC chose Stephen Ferris. Which is a shame for Rob Kearney!

Notch wrote:Honestly think Paul O'Connell will be on the next Lions tour and very likely on the test team. Between himself and Warburton for Captain.

33 isn't past it for a second row and I think his class and inspirational presence is beyond doubt.

Agree with all of that, BUT, it's Australia away. Horses for courses.

Glas a du wrote:Murray is the same type as Phillips.

Phillips is infinitely more effective than Murray right now (Murray is only young granted). Phillips, always aggressive, always wanting to keep defenders interested in staying close to him because of the erratic nature of his game, which often creates the space required for his big backs when he shifts it to them. He's much more a constant niggling, dangerous threat. To me Phillips is the best thing in a Welsh shirt right now...and that includes the poster boys Lidiate, Warburton, Halfpenny etc.

Question:

Gatland won a Six Nations 5 seasons ago, does this mean there is hope for Deccie.

Fly he's still the same type. Phillips is a much better player than he is a scrum half. Excellent dressing room presence.

red_stag wrote:Question:

Gatland won a Six Nations 5 seasons ago, does this mean there is hope for Deccie.

Mutually exclusive, you can't extrapolate.

No, Glas he can't be the same type simply because he's tallish for a scrumhalf and has black hair that he let's grow a little long . I don't see Murray and Phillips being the same type at all....yet. Maybe Murray will develop into a Phillips but for now, I personally don't see game managing similarities.

Secret I agree. I think we would have badly struggled to score tries had Murray stayed on the pitch. Reddan had a massive impact.

SecretFly wrote:No, Glas he can't be the same type simply because he's tallish for a scrumhalf and has black hair that he let's grow a little long . I don't see Murray and Phillips being the same type at all....yet. Maybe Murray will develop into a Phillips but for now, I personally don't see game managing similarities.

Parling is the same type as POC, but nowhere near the same class. Murray is the same type as Philips just not as good. See?

Well, it's early days for Murray. I think this whole debate is a wee bit premature though. A lot will depend on the 2013 Six Nations.

red_stag wrote:Secret I agree. I think we would have badly struggled to score tries had Murray stayed on the pitch. Reddan had a massive impact.

Redden seemed like the spark needed, for sure. But I'm not downing a young man (Murray) who is probably finding the pressure cooker environment a little dificult to manage as yet. I think Murray will grow into his role - if he continues to get the opportunities - and become as effective at his game as Redden, perhaps even moreso. But he'll need more of these games to work through some issues. Besides, I think the early gameplan constricted him somewhat as it was Kidney's declared objective to first breakdown the Italians. So criticism of Murrays speed and decisions might be misplaced.

Glas a du wrote:

SecretFly wrote:No, Glas he can't be the same type simply because he's tallish for a scrumhalf and has black hair that he let's grow a little long . I don't see Murray and Phillips being the same type at all....yet. Maybe Murray will develop into a Phillips but for now, I personally don't see game managing similarities.

Parling is the same type as POC, but nowhere near the same class. Murray is the same type as Philips just not as good. See?

No, Glas. Sorry, I don't see. I know Murray is tagged with this similarity but I haven't witnessed it personally. When I see the similarities I'll acknowledge them. Promise.

Either way, he'll only improve his riding in the saddle.

Glas a du wrote:Either way, he'll only improve his riding in the saddle.

Yep. He'll get plenty of chances. But I hope Reddan starts next time out.

Just a quick please!! Awesome day yesterday playing the old man, Wales winning and Glos getting an awesome result!! Off to watch Ice Hockey in a bit and then day off tomorrow!!

does anyone else think that Lee Dickson for England looks a little bit like the love child of Kelly Brown? Or is that just me?

Just finished watching the game back again. Rhys P has got a lot to learn form that match - a lot.

He looks a Tinkywinky, but I'd like that attitude if he was ours

agreed Glas.

Righty, off out for a walk before the rugby all starts up again. Gorgeous day here in the Diff.

Afternoon everyone .....shattered after a run, can't wait for the rugby...

flip no joke though guys I can't get the Pina Colada song out of my head.......

Its not often I complain about the mods but they have door a very poor job of keeping the England v Wales thing wum free. I clicked into several threads on it and couldnt find one that I felt I could comment on seriously.

This one seems reasonable...I think... or at least it seemed so to me

https://www.606v2.com/t24669-england-analysis-vs-wales

Actually it does thank for that Fly. Im amazed at some of the threads

Roger Wilson in the corner for Saints.
Another Ulster try this weekend

Great try from LI. This is a great game.
23 all with a kick to come.

Another win for Ireland U-20's, I didn't realise they were unbeaten and in with a shout for the GS? I thought they lost to England?

Thats fantastic that they are going so well.

We've not played them yet I think Rodders, probably will bloody lose to em though.

Really hope to see Hanrahan feature at some stage this season for Munster

Ah ok just looking at the fixtures stag, I was getting mixed up with the Wales game. Still 3 from 3 is a great return considering we've played France.

England lost to Scotland didn't they?

Nope. Scotland handed that one to them on a silver plate!

Oh sorry, talking about the U20s. England thrashed them.

Stag you will be pleased that Downey is having a good performance today for Saints

Rava - Im glad to hear. I have my doubts about how good a signing he will be. Though I felt same about Botha - How Wrong Was I?!!

Settling down to Scotland v France now.

First time in my entire life I have enjoyed a 6 Nations game as much.

red_stag wrote:Its not often I complain about the mods but they have done a very poor job of keeping the bears from Poopie ing in the woods. I sat on several tree stumps and couldnt find one that I felt I could eat my dinner off.

Oh dear Pete. Charge down. Saints under the posts with 2 minutes to go.

Im not sure was it mentioned but I was very embarassed that the IRFU only played half the Italian anthem. Thats basically a diplomatic incident.

'Mon Scotland!!

red_stag wrote:Im not sure was it mentioned but I was very embarassed that the IRFU only played half the Italian anthem. Thats basically a diplomatic incident.

That was weird wasn't it? Whats the story there?

red_stag wrote:Im not sure was it mentioned but I was very embarassed that the IRFU only played half the Italian anthem. Thats basically a diplomatic incident.

Very embarrassing Ireland's part.

On that point, it does rankle me when we play abroad and they just play a CD for our anthem.

And linking in well, there is really something amazing when Scotland sing the anthem and there is no band or any singer leading them.

Agree about the whole CD thing Munsty.

And again about the Scottish anthem tradition. They just did it there.

red_stag wrote:Im not sure was it mentioned but I was very embarassed that the IRFU only played half the Italian anthem. Thats basically a diplomatic incident.

These are times of austerity stag, the band was probably getting paid by the note. Played the shortened version of Irelands call too

Come on Scotland!

red_stag wrote:We've not played them yet I think Rodders, probably will bloody lose to em though.

Really hope to see Hanrahan feature at some stage this season for Munster

Even if we lose to them, as long as players are being developed and benefitting from the experience, then that is the aim.

YES!! Hogg! Get in

Oh yes, Scotland winning!!!!

Hogg!!! and he's in my fantasy team, get in. Great start Scotland

Not sure did I hear that correctly. Commentator says that was their first Six Nations try in 3 years (apart from ones against Italy)

Didn't they score a try last week against Wales?

Sorry double post.

I think he meant at home as well

Andy Robinson is a genius . . . . .

Good to see Mike Blair looking back to his best form.

Phew. It's all go.