Klitchko on chisora!!

Klicthko mentioned that chisora must be punished to protect the legacy that is boxing which has been built up by great fighters that have done there best to credit the sport(he mentioned mike tyson as one of these fighters!!)

Does he know what he is saying?, has he forgotten what tyson has been upto? is he just full of it?

why does he get a voice?, shouldnt he just stick to fighting!

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,13273_7555487,00.html

mystiroakey wrote:Klicthko mentioned that chisora must be punished to protect the legacy that is boxing which has been built up by great fighters that have done there best to credit the sport(he mentioned mike tyson as one of these fighters!!)

Does he know what he is saying?, has he forgotten what tyson has been upto? is he just full of it?

why does he get a voice?, shouldnt he just stick to fighting!

Haven't seen the interview, but I agree that Tyson isn't the greatest of examples. Maybe he just got carried away for a few moments.

But yes he should have a voice and no he shouldn't just stick to fighting. I would rather listen to him than David Haye's pathetic nonsense or James DeGales playground taunting.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:Klicthko mentioned that chisora must be punished to protect the legacy that is boxing which has been built up by great fighters that have done there best to credit the sport(he mentioned mike tyson as one of these fighters!!)

Does he know what he is saying?, has he forgotten what tyson has been upto? is he just full of it?

why does he get a voice?, shouldnt he just stick to fighting!

Haven't seen the interview, but I agree that Tyson isn't the greatest of examples. Maybe he just got carried away for a few moments.

But yes he should have a voice and no he shouldn't just stick to fighting. I would rather listen to him than David Haye's pathetic nonsense or James DeGales playground taunting.

the fact is his comments were and on the whole are pathetic nonsense! not sure why people gloss over what he says!

mystiroakey wrote:
the fact is his comments were and on the whole are pathetic nonsense! not sure why people gloss over what he says!

As I said, I haven't seen it so would have to reserve judgement till then.

On a more general note, I don't think all his comments are pathetic. That is just your opinion, and the same criteria could be applied to hundreds of boxers. I could make a whopping list of idiotic things that boxers have said over the years and if anything, Klitschko is probably pretty dull in that respect.

You really don't like him, do you?

In all honesty all boxers talk nonsense- i get that. but the fact is the klitckos are seen as above just being boxers(the fact they promote themselves) yet are in all honesty no better!

I dont really know him/them enough to not like him/them. However i respect them both in the ring big time! that is all that should matter. I dont understand why they feel the need to be potrayed as the voice of HW boxing at present when they are no better than any other fighter when it comes to giving out there opinions!

offcourse i do understand why they want to be known as more than boxers- they are promoters, they want to get involved in how things are run!- i just dont understand why we as consumers allow it.

If they want ultiumate respect for helping out the struggling divison of the HW at present- then they should fight each other and quit talking rubbish!

Education is lost on Wlad is seems. Or perhaps too many punches in the head.

mystiroakey wrote:i just dont understand why we as consumers allow it.

Allow what? Them to have an opinion. Whether you like it or not, or think they are better/worse than anyone else, they are entitled to their opinion on boxing and boxers. Their position and status affords them that luxury. You don't have to 'consume' anything. Just don't listen to them.

I totally understand them not fighting each other as well. I wouldn't fight my brother for any amount of money. It is a highly unusual situation, and one that is unlikely to happen again, but I don't blame them at all for not fighting.

Can we have a link, please, so we can judge for ourselves

To be fair, in comparison to most boxers out there at the moment, they are head and shoulders above in terms of "out of ring" voices and "in the ring" brusiers.

Their actions outside of the ring are conducted of gentleman like actions, no brawls, no trash talk to the Haye/Mayweather extent, VERY intelligent, running politics in Ukraine etc etc Not to mention they are avid Chess players and speak 7 languages.

They are head and shoulders above that dimwit Haye who has limited intelligence, a pathetic set of trash talk line, has a knack for saying the wrong things at the wrong time (ie. What he said to Audley on BBC Live).


If you do not like them, dont comment on them.

Plus, they will NEVER get respect for helping out the H/W division. They are so much better then anyone from LHW/CW/HW. And if they fought, and say Vitali won, he would probably relinquish one belt so Wlad could smash ten bells out of someone else for it.

i dont blame them for not doing it- however it would put the HW division back on the map!!

What i hate is the Klitchkos holy than thou attitude! yuk and then they come up with comments like the one above!

Tyson could have indirectly created the chisora situation. he should not be praised in that way.

If the K's want to be respected on an 'opinion' level then they need to speak facts, not try and blame everything on one fighter and create a scapegoat for problems that have been affecting boxing for ages not just today!!

"If you do not like them, dont comment on them."

er ok- lol , dont really need to read the rest of your comment, you have made that quite clear!!

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,13273_7555487,00.html


if anyone wants to see the interview then its above.

another point- i may agree that apoligies are for show over what they really mean- however it really isnt up to kiltch to say if he meant them or not!!

I just saw the Klitschko interview on Sky Sports and there is no mention of Mike Tyson he just says past champions? He also says he doesn't believe the apology and that he thinks Chisora was told to say it by his management. Can't really blame Wlad on this one. I wouldn't be too chuffed with someone after the spat in my face.

Mystiroakey, you do come across as a very angry man are you after Jonesy/Johnsons title of angriest poster?

trottb- why dont you watch the full interview rather than making stuff up!!

click on the link above- i am not on here to lie- you see a clip on skysports and you think i saw that- ironic really because straight after the clip interview it goes staright into tysons issues lol!!

I watched it on Sky Sports News and thats what I saw. Unless they cut it.

Why would I make stuff up? I don't have an agenda against them unlike some...

You should join Chisora on his anger managment course.

err what are you trying to say! i am just saying what happened!! straight away you rejected it without watching it!

now your getting personall lol- and you think i should go on anger management- what an ironic person you are!

trottb wrote:I just saw the Klitschko interview on Sky Sports and there is no mention of Mike Tyson he just says past champions? He also says he doesn't believe the apology and that he thinks Chisora was told to say it by his management. Can't really blame Wlad on this one. I wouldn't be too chuffed with someone after the spat in my face.

Mystiroakey, you do come across as a very angry man are you after Jonesy/Johnsons title of angriest poster?

Maybe Wlad will now stop going into opponents changing rooms and force them to change wraps in contravention of the governing body's rulings.

It was written here way back when that Wlad likes going into male changing rooms anyway!

Imagine the HW champ being a woofta It would do wonders for gay rights imo.

mystiroakey wrote:i dont blame them for not doing it- however it would put the HW division back on the map!!

What i hate is the Klitchkos holy than thou attitude! yuk and then they come up with comments like the one above!

Tyson could have indirectly created the chisora situation. he should not be praised in that way.

If the K's want to be respected on an 'opinion' level then they need to speak facts, not try and blame everything on one fighter and create a scapegoat for problems that have been affecting boxing for ages not just today!!

Surely if you are going off that basis, then it was more like Ali who is to take the blame?? He was before Tyson and him and Fraizer were brawling on a live TV set.

Plus, whats with the "Anti-Tyson" and "Anti-Klitshcko" campaign?!

"Plus, whats with the "Anti-Tyson" and "Anti-Klitshcko" campaign?!"

there isnt just anti his points made on telly, i thought thats what debate was for!!

getting confused here lol

there is a massive anti chisora campaign on at present- which is fair enough - i am just making the point that the grass isnt greener elsewhere!!!

mystiroakey wrote:err what are you trying to say! i am just saying what happened!! straight away you rejected it without watching it!

now your getting personall lol- and you think i should go on anger management- what an ironic person you are!

I watched it on Sky sports news it was on 2 minutes prior to the post I wrote. It went to a clip of Tyson after but that was referring to Frank Warren saying that they have not taken action previously to world champs, etc.

Do you know what ironic means?

yep you are very ironic- you get personal and say i should go on anger management! that is a very good example of irony

mystiroakey wrote: getting confused here lol

Shouldn't imagine that takes a lot.

oh lol more of it !! haha

It IS what the debate is for, but according to a few people on here that have watched it, you seem to be talking out of your behind.

I cant comment because i have not seen it.

However, it just comes accross as if you are ANTI against the said fighters.

And as i stated before, why would you say that Tyson could have indirectly caused Chisora to do what he did?


It could have been Ali, Hide, Lewis, Rahman, Mayweather, Hopkins, Wright..............

i have posted the link!!!!!

"why would you say that Tyson could have indirectly caused Chisora to do what he did? "

do i really need to explain!!

Just watched the link and he does indeed mention Tyson. Apologies Msytiroakey. Must have caught the tail end on SSN.

Yeh but he does so in passing - probably just naming names without actually meaning it.

Definitely whoever he thinks of off of the top of his head. I agree with a lot of what he says to be honest.

trottb wrote:Just watched the link and he does indeed mention Tyson. Apologies Msytiroakey. Must have caught the tail end on SSN.

thanks

mystiroakey wrote:"why would you say that Tyson could have indirectly caused Chisora to do what he did? "

do i really need to explain!!

Yes, i know, but what i mean is why have you only mentioned Tyson and not other fighters? Vitali didnt mention Tyson based on him inderctly causing Chisora to act like a fool.

i mentioned tyson because k mentioned him in a favarable light- out of the fighters k mentioned in making the game 'polished' tyson was the worst of the bunch, and also a fighter that many(including frank warren) is using as an example as to how chisoras ban can be seen to be 'to little to late' and that he is being made the scapegoat for all what has gone before

i used the word 'could' as well- there was no certainty to what i said, i didnt mean to single out tyson at all, I dont think its a bad thing to ban chisora, however i do think it stinks when other fighters compare two fighters (one favourably , one negatively) when they are no better or no worse than each other- the only difference beingis that tyson was a massive money spinner and obviously a hell of a fighter!

I find it difficult to take that anyone involved in German boxing can point the finger at other people/nations with respect to damaging the credibility of boxing.

Especially when it's done in the self-righteous, smug way that the Klitchkos employ.

The WBC are a bunch of $%%$$ who are only willing to stand on principle when it suits them. Chisora lifetime ban. Tyson when he practically threated to jail **** an entire press room after Lewis debacle - nothing.

The Klits need to shut up too. All this talk like they are at the UN and of gentlemen and blah blah blah. This is boxing, these things have happened for decades and the overreactions are pathetic.

I think they are lucky not to have had Tyson over there to promote a fight with them, especially if he got into one of his moods.

I'm no great lover of the KBros but if someone spits water in my face,slaps my brother across the face,and causes problems at a press conference afterwards, I would feel I'm entitled to an opinion on it if I were Vlad, and that's what he's given an opinion.

an opinion based on a biased outlook- yep he certainly gave that

They both need to learn to shut up.

The KBros are entitled to their opinion same as everybody on here.

they can have their opinion but stop blowing it out of proportion. It's not like it has never happened before, it's as though they think they can bully DelBoy out of the sport as they are "big draws" and he isn't. Slap a 6 month ban and a fine on Del Boy and be done with it. Margarito got a year and he is a f%$$$$$$ cheat!

I said on another thread a 6 month ban would be enough,perhaps if the press and tv didn't ask the KBros their opinion they wouldn't get one.

Nico do you not understand how ridiculas his point was!

yes he spoke to the press- but you dont have to talk rubbish every time you voice an opinion- if thats his real opinion then he is spangled

I heard the interview on Sky not saying its right but as long as the media and tv keep giving the 2Ks ammunition they are going to keep milking it

Klitschcos are getting air time because it is the heavyweight division has always generated the most interest among sports fans, albeit certainly not recently.
They are the only heavyweights around at the moment that are worth listening to, especially if you consider how much of a joke our current heavys have become recently( Price looks quality, although untested).

they are the only heavyweights that are proper fighters- they are not worth listening to mind

Wlad is definitely entitled to a public opinion on this matter, but I think most real boxing fans will take/are taking exception to the brothers' smug stirring of the situation from up on their place on the moral high ground. Yes, Chisora behaved like an idiot and should be punished, but it shouldn't be excessive. Talk of lifetime bans and such are a joke. Seanusarrilius makes a great point - Margarito got a year for loading his gloves, which, for me, is one of the worst possible ways that anyone can cheat in any sport. Chisora got into a scuffle and behaved like a bit of a d**k. Fine him, so that he doesn't gain much out of his world title fight. Ban him for 6-9 months, so that he's forced to sit on the sidelines and not build any momentum from this fiasco. But, anything more than that is unnecessary.

d260005p wrote:To be fair, in comparison to most boxers out there at the moment, they are head and shoulders above in terms of "out of ring" voices and "in the ring" brusiers.

Their actions outside of the ring are conducted of gentleman like actions, no brawls, no trash talk to the Haye/Mayweather extent, VERY intelligent, running politics in Ukraine etc etc Not to mention they are avid Chess players and speak 7 languages.

They are head and shoulders above that dimwit Haye who has limited intelligence, a pathetic set of trash talk line, has a knack for saying the wrong things at the wrong time (ie. What he said to Audley on BBC Live).


If you do not like them, dont comment on them.

Plus, they will NEVER get respect for helping out the H/W division. They are so much better then anyone from LHW/CW/HW. And if they fought, and say Vitali won, he would probably relinquish one belt so Wlad could smash ten bells out of someone else for it.

they might never get the credit they deserve imo.

I just saw that line that said 'If you don't like them, don't comment on them'.

But if we don't like Haye, Chisora and the rest, we're allowed to comment on those guys?

Just seen a very interesting video clip on Buncie's BoxNation show which I'd certainly never seen before & not sure how much exposure there has been of it. Basically the cameras keep rolling after the ruck between Chisora & Haye, where David is walking around still angry & the K bros can be seen up on the dais laughing & joking about what they had just seen, in fact Haye even walks up & shakes Vitali's hand [or at least I think it was Vitali] & laughs with him. Hardly seems like the actions of two people who were shocked & disgusted by what they had just witnessed - smacks of hypocrisy really with them now playing the holier than thou card.

yeah i saw the above- the k's have an agenda..