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RaboDirect Pro12 - Round 17 Preview/Live match thread
12 teams, 6 games, 2 days, 0 games at 2.30 on Saturday! Welcome to Round 7 of the RaboDirect Pro12
Aironi v Leinster
2/3/12 Stadio Zaffanella
Aironi v Leinster
2/3/12 Stadio Zaffanella
Newport Gwent Dragons narrowly avoided being the fourth side to lose to Aironi this season in round 6. Aironi have gained points from their last three matches at home.
Leinster are without their International stars but scraped a draw against Glasgow and a last gasp win against the Scarlets. Anything but a loss will see Leinster match the record run of 14 unbeaten games set by Munster in the last campaign.
Stat:
Leinster tries in this campaign to date: 36
Aironi: 15
At Stadio Zaffanella, 7pm local time (6pm UK & Ireland).
Referee: Andrew Macpherson (SRU, 41st competition game)
Assistant Referees: Stefano Penne, Filippo Bertelli (FIR)
Citing Commissioner: Alberto Recaldini (FIR)
TMO: Alan Falzone (FIR)
Live on Rai Sport
Result? - A tough test for Leinster that they should pass.
Ospreys v Glasgow Warriors
2/3/12 Liberty Stadium
2/3/12 Liberty Stadium
Ian Gough is set to make his 200th regional appearance. Only two other Welsh players have turned in as many regional appearances, the Dragons' Adam Jones (200) and Blues' Deiniol Jones (204).
The Ospreys have not lost at home to a Scottish side since Edinburgh beat them in April 2009. Only Munster have won at the Liberty since October 2010.
Glasgow Warriors have drawn five of their last 11 matches in all competitions. It would be their first away win since beating Aironi in November. They beat the Ospreys 28-17 at Firhill, but a win would secure their first ever season's double over the Ospreys. They have never won in the Liberty.
At Liberty Stadium, 7.05pm
Referee: Neil Paterson (SRU, 37th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Gwyn Morris, David Jones (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner : John Charles (WRU)
TMO: Paul Adams (WRU)
Live on BBC Wales and BBC Alba
Result? - The Ospreys to edge a close encounter.
Ulster v Edinburgh Rugby
2/3/12 Ravenhill
2/3/12 Ravenhill
Edinburgh have qualified for the Heineken Cup quarter finals for the second time in their history but have since lost five on the bounce in the league.
Ulster have also progressed in the Heineken Cup, for the second year running. They have lost just two of their last 11 matches in all competitions.
At Ravenhill, 7.05pm.
Referee: Nigel Owens (WRU, 81st competition game)
Assistant Referees: Paul Haycock, Brian MacNeice (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner : Tom McCormack (IRFU)
TMO: Marshall Kilgore (IRFU)
Live on BBC Northern Ireland
Result? - Ulster will need to provide a decent performance to win this game, but they should manage it.
Scarlets v Connacht
2/3/12 Parc Y Scarlets
2/3/12 Parc Y Scarlets
The Scarlets are enjoying a good run at Parc y Scarlets. They have won their last six league games there, their best series since 2006.
Connacht's have lost only one of their last four games in all competitions. Treviso has been their only scalp on the road in the league since September. They have won their last two matches against the Scarlets. If they make it three in a row, it will be their first league double over the Scarlets and their first away win against them since 2004.
At Parc y Scarlets, 7.30pm
Referee: Marius Mitrea (FIR, 6th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Tim Hayes, Greg Morgan (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner : Richard Gwynn (WRU)
Not televised.
Result? - The Scarlets should win and will be disappointed with less than 5 points. Connacht are experts in providing that sort of disappointment!
Benetton Treviso v Cardiff Blues
3/3/12 Stadio Di Monigo
3/3/12 Stadio Di Monigo
Treviso have beaten the last three Welsh teams to visit the Stadio Di Monigo. However they have lost their last three encounters with the Blues.
The Cardiff Blues' have not won on the road since beating Connacht in October. However they have never lost to an Italian opponent; in any competition.
At Stadio Monigo, 4.30pm local time (3.30pm UK & Ireland)
Referee: David Wilkinson (IRFU, 13th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Giuseppe Vivarini, Stefano Roscini (both FIR)
Citing Commissioner : Maurizio Vancini (FIR)
TMO: Mauro Dordolo (FIR)
Live on Rai
Result? - Treviso to shock the Blues in an attritional battle.
Newport Gwent Dragons v Munster
3/3/12 Rodney Parade
3/3/12 Rodney Parade
The Dragons won three in a row in the league this time last year. They will do so again if they can pip Munster. Only the Scarlets that have won at Rodney Parade in this campaign, but the Dragons only have 1 win from the last 9 attempts against the Irish Provinces.
Munster on the other hand have won their last five games in all competitions and have only lost to the Ospreys in their last six visits to Wales. This fixture has gone with home advantage on the last five occasions.
At Rodney Parade, 6.30pm
Referee: Carlo Damasco (FIR, 18th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Hennessy, Rhys Thomas (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Gwyn Bowden (WRU)
TMO: Tony Rowlands (WRU)
Live on S4C and TG4
Result? - Munster to have too much for the Dragons.
RaboDirect PRO12 Table:
Pos. (prev.) Team. Played. Won. Lost. Draw. Bonus. Points.
1 (1) Leinster Rugby 16 13 1 2 59
2 (2) Ospreys 16 11 1 4 48
3 (3) Munster Rugby 15 10 0 5 47
4 (4) Glasgow Warriors 16 8 4 4 43
5 (6) Ulster Rugby 16 9 0 7 41
6 (5) Cardiff Blues 15 8 0 7 40
7 (7) Scarlets 16 8 1 7 40
8 (8) Benetton Treviso 16 6 0 10 28
9 (10) Newport Gwent Dragons 15 5 1 9 25
10 (11) Connacht Rugby 16 4 1 11 24
11 (9) Edinburgh Rugby 16 4 1 11 23
12 (12) Aironi Rugby 15 3 0 12 15
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Not sure on the Treviso or Dragons results you've gone for. I think I predicted tight wins for the Welsh regions, but maybe went for Treviso too. I am certainly hoping for a Dragons win, even though Munster should have a handy enough side out.
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im looking forward to watching the Os on tv tonight. much less stress than watching wales at the moment.
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Less stress but much crapper rugby
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Very dodgy stat there.
Ulster lost to Cardiff last week and the Clermont Auvergne in our last HC game. So we've actually lost 2 out of our last 11 games (since the start of December).
Ulster lost to Cardiff last week and the Clermont Auvergne in our last HC game. So we've actually lost 2 out of our last 11 games (since the start of December).
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Thank you Notch. I've downgraded your team accordingly!
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"0 games at 2.30 on Saturday! "
Why should there be, thats club teams kick off time, and theere are no clubs in this league (you could maybe argue Teviso).
This is a Regional/Provincial League and the Regional/Provincial is Fri and Sat evenings
Why should there be, thats club teams kick off time, and theere are no clubs in this league (you could maybe argue Teviso).
This is a Regional/Provincial League and the Regional/Provincial is Fri and Sat evenings
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Well how many people want to waste their Sat night watching the Ospreys?
I'd watch Leinster or Munster at that time. But none of the welsh regions, bar maybe the Scarlets
I'd watch Leinster or Munster at that time. But none of the welsh regions, bar maybe the Scarlets
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Kingshu wrote:"0 games at 2.30 on Saturday! "
Why should there be, thats club teams kick off time, and theere are no clubs in this league (you could maybe argue Teviso).
This is a Regional/Provincial League and the Regional/Provincial is Fri and Sat evenings
Agree here. Now I can play Rugby tomorrow at 14:30 then make Newport in plenty of time.
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I'm surprised that so many Welsh complain about it when they love their club game. It would be disappointing if anyone who was involved in club rugby couldn't support their region as well.
Sorry Glas- it was the Ospreys we beat last week, Cardiff was the week before. It's 2 defeats from 12 games.
Sorry Glas- it was the Ospreys we beat last week, Cardiff was the week before. It's 2 defeats from 12 games.
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Yet the stadiums are empty with the current scheduling. I just think maybe trying 2:30 kick offs for a few games might help
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Saturday afternoons are not good news for Ulster as history has shown.
We get our best crowds on Friday nights.
We get our best crowds on Friday nights.
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1 the same blydi time every time
2 that time being most convenient to most fans and Flip the TV people.
The Munster game was a Saturday afternoon and the timing was perfect for the night out after
2 that time being most convenient to most fans and Flip the TV people.
The Munster game was a Saturday afternoon and the timing was perfect for the night out after
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Blydi Ospreys! Who could predict they would be so crap! Actually scrap that...
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So with Warriors, Ulster, Scarlets and Blues, all having won, it has really separated 7 sides from the Rest. Blues had 2 games in hand and have won a tricky one away. That was crucial. Win the other and they are straight into the top 4. Munster have a game in hand. Its on now, v Dragons at Dave. They win that and they are creeping up behind Leinster. Our biggest threat for League Winners proper.
Ospreys could lose out this time. Falling away over the last few weeks. Or maybe they are more hurt by their missing internationals than the rest?
Scarlets, Ulster and Warriors are hitting great form - at the right time. I think Leinster & Munster will take the 2 top spots. Not being arrogant, its just they have the best backup squads during Internationals. Thats all.
So, who will join them? 2 from 5.
Scarlets, Blues, Ospreys, Ulster or Warriors?
Must check the run-ins for those sides. All key to it. Games between any of those lot, will be 8-pointers. Remember the end of the league proper, last year? It was tense.
More.
P.S. Great thread. Lets keep it alive right to the Grand Final. See who gets it right, close, or badly wrong.
Predictions?
Ospreys could lose out this time. Falling away over the last few weeks. Or maybe they are more hurt by their missing internationals than the rest?
Scarlets, Ulster and Warriors are hitting great form - at the right time. I think Leinster & Munster will take the 2 top spots. Not being arrogant, its just they have the best backup squads during Internationals. Thats all.
So, who will join them? 2 from 5.
Scarlets, Blues, Ospreys, Ulster or Warriors?
Must check the run-ins for those sides. All key to it. Games between any of those lot, will be 8-pointers. Remember the end of the league proper, last year? It was tense.
More.
P.S. Great thread. Lets keep it alive right to the Grand Final. See who gets it right, close, or badly wrong.
Predictions?
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Come on Munster
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Good game. Tuilagi injured. Shame. Dragons really having a go. If they won this, it could turn their season around. They know it and are playing for it. But, its Munster roysh.
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The Dragons have blown some good ops Gibbo, they could have wrapped Munster up here.
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The Dragons are going to win this...
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Dunno mate they had 2 great chance and knocked on. If Munster get one decent chance - its over.
Dragons deserve to beat Munster. But, how many times have I heard that one? Funny how it keeps happening. Munster make it happen.
Dragons convert Pen. 14-9 now. They need to show nous here. Munster are deadly in the closing phases of a game.
Dragons deserve to beat Munster. But, how many times have I heard that one? Funny how it keeps happening. Munster make it happen.
Dragons convert Pen. 14-9 now. They need to show nous here. Munster are deadly in the closing phases of a game.
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Thats all it takes with Munster.
If the Dragons lose this, they can be down because they have been the better team but wasted so many chances.
If the Dragons lose this, they can be down because they have been the better team but wasted so many chances.
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Felix Jones. Love im.
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Big chance now for the Dragons
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Felix Jones, man love here
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Seriously though, how quick was he to jump on that opportunity. Great speed as well
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Jooooooonesssssss! Oh man so happy for him. After all he's been through. He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
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He is class isnt he
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One of Leinster's biggest mistakes in years. Letting him go. Cheika was fuming apparently. Dunno, must have been the IRFU. He is thriving at Munster and I pray for the lad to have a few years, without injury and to show what he can really do. Hes just brilliant. Possibly more dynamic than Kearney in attack and just as good. That will be some battle soon. The battle of the 2 x Leinster Way Irish 15's.
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GIBBO - thanks for the message on my mobile on Monday (I switch it to silent at home as it's the only number work have got ) Hadn't seen you about since then We are all grand and Mam is out and about, on her frame.
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Gibbo, i honestly believe that Felix Jones is a better 15 than Kearney if i must be honest. Kearney has moments of brilliance but Jones is the better all round player i feel.
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PenfroPete wrote:GIBBO - thanks for the message on my mobile on Monday (I switch it to silent at home as it's the only number work have got ) Hadn't seen you about since then We are all grand and Mam is out and about, on her frame.
Ah lovely Penfroon. Great to hear about yer Ma. Going to see mine for her 83rd birthday next wknd.
Love you man. Y'aul bollox. Getting on now. Catching me up.
Happy Birthday Mijn vriend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMFYs3gfgis
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They were the best, love you too man
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eirebilly wrote:Gibbo, i honestly believe that Felix Jones is a better 15 than Kearney if i must be honest. Kearney has moments of brilliance but Jones is the better all round player i feel.
+1
But, it remains to be seen how well he compares at the next level. Big jump.
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I believe that he will be fine Gibbo, Did you see how quick he was to react to the Dragons error today and take the try? That was class in my eyes.
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Ah so this is where the match thread was hiding...cracking game, feic hwo Munster won that I have no idea! The Dragons had them at 6's and 7's in that second half.
Felix Jones had a nightmare, nearly as bad as O'Leary, but fair play that was a cracking try at the end by him. Class player.
The Munster no6 (Dave O'Callaghan) had a great game though. Hurley had a big impact when he came on too.
Felix Jones had a nightmare, nearly as bad as O'Leary, but fair play that was a cracking try at the end by him. Class player.
The Munster no6 (Dave O'Callaghan) had a great game though. Hurley had a big impact when he came on too.
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It was a poor performance by the Dragons to be honest, they had more than enough chances but didnt take enough of them.
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Rodders,
Jones is just getting back after another nasty injury. This young lad has had it all thrown at him and has come back stronger. That, to me shows the level of a Pro. An International class player. Its what separates them from the rest. That strong will, against all odds - to be the best.
Just before he got injured for Ireland, he was on the plane to NZ. Then. who knows? Trust me, he and Kearney will give us World Class options at FB. Done deal. Marvelous player. When he gets up to speed, he'll be pushing Kearney. And that is one Irish position - covered for years to come. I think its fantastic actually. Love to see that all over the field.
Jones is just getting back after another nasty injury. This young lad has had it all thrown at him and has come back stronger. That, to me shows the level of a Pro. An International class player. Its what separates them from the rest. That strong will, against all odds - to be the best.
Just before he got injured for Ireland, he was on the plane to NZ. Then. who knows? Trust me, he and Kearney will give us World Class options at FB. Done deal. Marvelous player. When he gets up to speed, he'll be pushing Kearney. And that is one Irish position - covered for years to come. I think its fantastic actually. Love to see that all over the field.
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Gibson I agree. Jones has had terrible luck with injury. He had a brilliant season last year and had one foot on the plane to NZ. Is he 26 now? Still time to have a good career and earn a few caps.
Kearney is in the form of his career now though and it will take something special to get that 15 jersey, I hope they can push each other to new levels over the next few seasons.
Kearney is in the form of his career now though and it will take something special to get that 15 jersey, I hope they can push each other to new levels over the next few seasons.
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Dave O'Callaghan I feel could have a big future. He has impressed me each time I have seen him play.
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Jones is only 24 rodders.
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Ah gee loads of time then Rory! A great talent!
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Anyone else have any opinions on our next DOC? He looks like a dynamic Croft type of flanker, but with a huge work rate.
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Haven't watched him much Rory but he stood out yesterday. Looks like a big lad with plenty of energy and aggression. Just what Ireland need...another 6 ....
Whats the deal with him, is he related to DOC sr? How old is he?
Whats the deal with him, is he related to DOC sr? How old is he?
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Same age as Ruddock, Ryan etc. Younger than POM.
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